Ethnic Mongols protest against early Mandarin education in Chinese Inner Mongolia

[OIO]

Ethnic Mongols protest against early Mandarin education in Chinese Inner Mongolia

We love our country and support our communist party, our country is a big family where people from different ethnic groups live peacefully and harmoniously together. We ethnic Mongols abide by all the rules and laws made by our government and our party, but we have just one request, the only one request, that we don't want our children to be taught in Mandarin from their first year in the primary school when they haven't even mastered their mother tongue Mongolian, expressed by the organiser of the protest.

They can learn both languages.

 

[OIO]

So our emperor want to create another hot zone?
Like we don't have enough.

The previous leaders made mistake in minority areas, the common language is very important.

 

[OIO]

They can migrate to Mongolia. Where they don't have to speak mandarin in their whole lives.

It's not that serious and I'll not be surprised if Mongolia becomes part of China again in the future.

 

[OIO]

We ethnic Mongols abide by all the rules and laws made by our government and our party

Actually learning common language is written in the law of compulsory education.

 

[S10]

Wait Mandarin education isn't compulsory in Inner Mongolia? What kind of bullshit is this?

When I was a kid in Guangzhou, we were not allowed to speak Cantonese in schools. Now obviously some teachers were more relaxed about this and spoke to us in Cantonese, but primarily we were taught in Mandarin.

Mandarin is China's official working language. Classes should be taught in it in public schools to ensure all students can effectively communicate with the rest of the country. If their parents do not wish to learn Mandarin, they can take their kids to a private school or send them to Outer Mongolia for education.

 

[Mista]

So our emperor want to create another hot zone?
Like we don't have enough.

Heh. In Singapore, Mandarin are being taught as the mother tongue to replace multiple dialects while English are being taught as the administrative language.

It's only natural, and necessary, for the people of China to be taught Mandarin as the administrative language. Economically and socially it makes sense.

You don't want to end up like India where after 7 decades of independence, almost half of the population still can't understand the PM when he speaks.

 

[Menthol]

I like it if China still has differences between one part of the country to the others.

Differences between tribes and sub-tribes.

But still united.


Learning Mongols first then Mandarin is actually a good thing.

We will not see it today, but decades later, everyone will forget the Mongols language and culture.

It will happen not just in Mongolia, but in entire China.


Based on the observation in my country, that is actually happened, despite we learn the local language and culture as well in school.

But it doesn't bring enough impact to keep the local language and culture still living in society.

Just see how many young people understand the local language fully in entire Indonesia, not to mention culture as well.

Several decades later, Indonesian local culture will be gone and can only be found in the museum, and Local language can only be heard from the recorder.


The same thing will happen in China, but you just not yet to see it now.

One day, people will regret it.

It's true.

 

[PeacefulWar]

What foreigners don't know is small protests and demonstration happen in thousands each year everywhere in China, I saw several in Beijing each year, they can hardly be called "hot zones", just a fact of life.

The previous leaders made mistake in minority areas, the common language is very important.

Heh. In Singapore, Mandarin are being taught as the mother tongue to replace multiple dialects while English are being taught as the administrative language.

It's only natural, and necessary, for the people of China to be taught Mandarin as the administrative language. Economically and socially it makes sense.

You don't want to end up like India where after 7 decades of independence, almost half of the population still can't understand the PM when he speaks.

Maybe it's just me worring too much
I would prefer "soft" way, they already naturally integrate into the whole country. And the trends is accelerating naturally.

Not worth the risk.
And the track records of government handling ethics relation is terrible, you know.

 

[PeacefulWar]

I like it if China still has differences between one part of the country to the others.

Differences between tribes and sub-tribes.

But still united.


Learning Mongols first then Mandarin is actually a good thing.

We will not see it today, but decades later, everyone will forget the Mongols language and culture.

It will happen not just in Mongolia, but in entire China.


Based on the observation in my country, that is actually happened, despite we learn the local language and culture as well in school.

But it doesn't bring enough impact to keep the local language and culture still living in society.

Just see how many young people understand the local language fully in entire Indonesia, not to mention culture as well.

Several decades later, Indonesian local culture will be gone and can only be found in the museum, and Local language can only be heard from the recorder.


The same thing will happen in China, but you just not yet to see it now.

One day, people will regret it.

It's true.

Please don't compare Indonesia with China.
In China, minor ethics have bilingual education and have their own paper and TV channel in their own language.
Does Indonesia allow that? Forget about paper/TV, does Indonesia Chinese can have their names in Chinese? And not only Chinese, can any other minorities have that right?

So please, don't compare!

 

[lcloo]

Ironically, huge majority of citizens of the Mongolia (formerly Outer Mongolia) can not even understand traditional Mongolian scripts as they were taught in Cyrillic alphabetic similar to Russians.

Languages of Mongolia
Today, Mongolian is written using the Cyrillic alphabet in Mongolia, although in the past it was written using the Mongolian script. An official reintroduction of the old script was planned for 1994, but has not taken place as older generations encountered practical difficulties.[68] The traditional alphabet is being slowly reintroduced through schools.[69] In March 2020, the Mongolian government announced plans to use both Cyrillic and the traditional Mongolian script in official documents by 2025.[70][71][72]

 

[Indos]

Please don't compare Indonesia with China.
In China, minor ethics have bilingual education and have their own paper and TV channel in their own language.
Does Indonesia allow that? Forget about paper/TV, does Indonesia Chinese can have their names in Chinese? And not only Chinese, can any other minorities have that right?

So please, don't compare!

Something that you should consider is that Indonesian language is originated in Riau islands, near Singapore. They are minority but their language become our national language. Javanese is the majority with around 40 percent population and their local language is very different with our national language.

Yes Chinese Indonesian can use Chinese name after we embrace democracy.

This is Metro Xinwen, a program in Metro TV that uses Mandarin.

And the owner of Metro TV himself is not Chinese Indonesian, but Acehnese and Muslim. Metro TV is one of prominent TV news station in Indonesia, together with TVOne, CNN Indonesia, CNBC Indonesia (business news), and Kompas TV.

Surya Paloh

 

[PeacefulWar]

Something that you should consider is that Indonesian language is originated in Riau islands, near Singapore. They are minority but their language become our national language. Javanese is the majority with around 40 percent population and their local language is very different with our national language.

Yes Chinese Indonesian can use Chinese name after we embrace democracy.

This is Metro Xinwen, a program in Metro TV that uses Mandarin.

And the owner of Metro TV himself is not Chinese Indonesian, but Acehnese and Muslim. Metro TV is one of prominent TV news station in Indonesia, together with TVOne, CNN Indonesia, CNBC Indonesia (business news), and Kompas TV.

Surya Paloh

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Glad to know it.
Thanks for sharing it!

 

[beijingwalker]

They can migrate to Mongolia. Where they don't have to speak mandarin in their whole lives.

Actually the opposite is true, many students from Mongolia come to China to study because of much better teaching facilities and overal level of education.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

hopeless nomadic people

 

[S10]

I like it if China still has differences between one part of the country to the others.

Differences between tribes and sub-tribes.

But still united.


Learning Mongols first then Mandarin is actually a good thing.

We will not see it today, but decades later, everyone will forget the Mongols language and culture.

It will happen not just in Mongolia, but in entire China.


Based on the observation in my country, that is actually happened, despite we learn the local language and culture as well in school.

But it doesn't bring enough impact to keep the local language and culture still living in society.

Just see how many young people understand the local language fully in entire Indonesia, not to mention culture as well.

Several decades later, Indonesian local culture will be gone and can only be found in the museum, and Local language can only be heard from the recorder.


The same thing will happen in China, but you just not yet to see it now.

One day, people will regret it.

It's true.

China is a unified republic, not some tribal society. The official language is Mandarin and that's what should be the primary medium of teaching in public schools. Local languages should be an elective secondary language course.

There is also a real advantage in using Mandarin as a working language. I speak fluent Cantonese, but I don't understand the Catonese dialects spoken by people in Chaozhou, Huizhou or Zhanjiang. Those cities are just 3 to 4 hours drive from Guangzhou where I am from. Mandarin has allowed the entirety of the country to communicate effectively.