Erdogan Preparing Turkey For 2023 - Unfinished Business With Saudi Arabia!

[Timur]

@WebMaster we should lock this threat its based on youtube fanfiction

Yes, the Arab world still remains the cradle of civilization, Arabia still has a much older recorded pre-history, ancient history, older civilizations, much more influential people in the Islamic age (by far most influential which the reality shows very clearly), created the largest empires, ruled the Islamic caliphate for almost 1000 years etc. You can close the eyes all you want, wannabe steppe man.

KSA, let alone Arabia, let alone the Arab world, is several times larger than your country. KSA alone is 3 times larger. The mountainous areas in KSA are larger than your entire country put together. Half of your Central Asian Turkic states (the only genuine ethnic Turkic nations in the world genetically = although I know that you will ignore this scientific fact and live a lie as this fits with your nonsense about Arabs, haha) are deserts. The other steppes. Which is why Arabia has 2 times the people alone.

Now I will try for the 100th time. You are still a foreigner. Your opinion still does not matter anything. 99,99% of all Arabs still don't care about your nonsense and do not want anything to do with your likes.

Let us hope that you will get it now.

I do not accept or honor your jahiliyya time

 

[Saif al-Arab]

@ webmaster we should lock this threat its based on youtube fanfiction



I do not accept or honor your jahiliyya time

Ok, you do not accept any pre-Islamic history. Fair enough.

However you will accept 1000 years of Arabs (from Arabia) ruling the Caliphate (Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid, Famitid), those same Arabs from Arabia ruling and being the most influential people in the Islamic Golden Age, those same Arabs from Arabia being behind 90% of all Islamic conquests in history (all of the current-day Arab world, Spain, Portugal, Sicily, Malta, Southern Italy, half of modern-day Turkey, Cyprus, Caucasus, half of Central Asia, Iran, Afghanistan, significant areas of modern-day Pakistan, Horn of Africa. The same Arabs from Arabia spread Islam to South East Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore) due to trade relations mainly. Same story in the Swahili coastline (Arabic word) and the Sahel in Africa (another Arabic word).

Ottomans (who were heavily Arabized and ruled an Arab system = Caliphate) only spread Islam to tiny Balkans. Nowhere else.

90%+ of all the most important Islamic personalities were Arabs. Most of the Islamic scholars were ethnic Arabs with Persians being second most numerous (all of them being Arabized, having Arabic names, writing in Arabic = language of science back then).

Arabic being the language of Qur'an as well. All the holy sites in Islam being located in Arab lands. Most of the most visited tombs in the Muslim world (outside of the Arab world) are Arabs too from Arabia (Hijaz). Whether in Iran (Qom or Mashhad) or even Turkey (Istanbul - Abu Ayyub al-Ansari (ra)).



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ayyub_al-Ansari

Let us see if you can read the Arabic script, lol. Your ancestors (if they were literate) could.

That you will now deny too because I wrote it.

You don't like facts. No need to prove this again.

Listen troll, nobody has a problem with Turks or Turkey (Arabs have no obsession about Turkey or Turks) but if your compatriots troll here and write insults, what the hell do you respect in return? Flowers?

BTW for your little information (not to humiliate you too much), Arabs in Spain alone left more World UNESCO Heritage Sites than Ottomans worldwide. Let that sink in, before you bark.

Each time you insult Arabs, I will speak the reality and humiliate your likes for barking and insulting. I never meddle in foreigners internal affairs. That is why you cannot find a single post of mine about Turkish, Iranian, Russian or whatever policies. I never troll other people out of nowhere or open such kind of threads. However I do know how to deal with trolls and it is not always pretty.

BTW we can talk about pre-Islamic history as well. First of all though you must come to terms with the history of your own people and here science (genetics) will play a role in the discussion otherwise it is fruitless. Since I know, based on experience, that this is not something that your likes are ready to or able to, it will also be somewhat of a waste of time.

Now please tell Arabs what to do in their countries again. Tell us about how the imaginary "perfect" Turks will solve all the worlds problems. Please save us Arabs. We can't wait. All while you have no clue about Arabs, the Arab world nor can you count to 10 in Arabic. Great stuff.

Also the "Arabs" that you know in Netherlands, most of them are Berbers from tiny Rif. That is like generalizing all Turks abroad by looking at your likes (Anatolian villagers who left the country for a quick pay in Western Europe in the 1960's, 1970's and 1980's, often without education, mostly from the interior of Anatolia etc.). I know your likes in person because I have known quite a few Turks of this background that were born in Europe. Sometimes even their grandparents were born in Europe due to living in Europe this long. Many of the faults that you speak about, can be found in your community. Even at a greater rate because there are more of you in Netherlands (Benelux), Germany, Scandinavia etc. What you complain about, locals complain about your community.

Iraqi Arabs in Netherlands for instance are better educated in general. Which are the only large-scale Arab community in Netherlands outside of the non-Rif Moroccans.

But I know that you are an Arab-obsessed person (long user history that supports this) so you were never interested in a discussion about regime policies in the Arab and Muslim world, but more about spreading your nonsense in this thread along with your retarded friends. You think that I don't know the reality of what you are blabbering about or your agenda here. It's the same as usual.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I wish that the common person in Pakistan had access to this thread. All those poor naive Pakistanis who believe Arabs are ‘blessed holy men’ with ‘devotion to Islam’ can see these hypocrite Arab supremacists for what they are.

Just as Arabs were blessed with the language of Quran in their native tongue, they have left the book of Allah swt and abandoned, even physically destroyed, the legacy of the Prophet saws and his family.

Allah ta’ala is just and is bringing calamities on the worst generation of Arabs who are far removed from the nobility and wisdom of the Sahaba generation.

My heart really goes out to the poor Arab victims of these Arab supremacists’ designs in the region. We all watched as Israelis shot unarmed Palestinian protesters in Gaza on their own land, all while KSA is establishing strong relations with Israel.

Israeli slave KSA and its puppets are being cursed by Muslims all over the world for their betrayal, none more than the poor Arabs who are living in the hell these people created in Syria, Yemen, Palestine, Libya, Egypt.

I ask all Muslims to know your enemy, both inside and outside, so that we can unite against them. Victory is assured to those who struggle for justice and freedom for our people.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

I wish that the common person in Pakistan had access to this thread. All those poor naive Pakistanis who believe Arabs are ‘blessed holy men’ with ‘devotion to Islam’ can see these hypocrite Arab supremacists for what they are.

Just as Arabs were blessed with the language of Quran in their native tongue, they have left the book of Allah swt and abandoned, even physically destroyed, the legacy of the Prophet saws and his family.

Allah ta’ala is just and is bringing calamities on the worst generation of Arabs who are far removed from the nobility and wisdom of the Sahaba generation.

My heart really goes out to the poor Arab victims of these Arab supremacists’ designs in the region. We all watched as Israelis shot unarmed Palestinian protesters in Gaza on their own land.

Israeli slave KSA and its puppets are being cursed by Muslims all over the world for their betrayal, none more than the poor Arabs who are living in the hell these people created in Syria, Yemen, Palestine, Libya, Egypt.

I ask all Muslims to know your enemy, both inside and outside, so that we can unite against them. Victory is assured to those who struggle for justice and freedom for our people.

Yes, please do so. Print all the posts in this thread in the millions and hand them out in Pakistan. Maybe your like-minded people will no longer obsess about Arabs and no longer associate themselves with us. The quicker this happens, the better for Arabs. Send them to Bangladesh and India as well (Muslim lot there).

In fact it would be the most wonderful thing in the world. Those people could focus on themselves and their own countries (although I believe the they will obsess about Turkey, Turks and Iran and Iranians or others, as many of them already do but that would not be the problem of Arabs) and Arabs could do the same. What a wonderful world. Each to his own and if a person needs help, he will ask for it. Not have intruders meddling 24/7.

Somebody show those posts to Erdogan and the Iranian wannabe-Arab Mullah's while you are at it as well.

With kind regards,
Saif al-Arab.

Instead I suggest that Arabs should continue to develop on all fronts and learn from the best on the most important fields of today which sadly no Muslims dominate. Hence associating ourselves with Muslims or vice versa, will only lead to failure.

What have those far-away Muslim countries given us other than wanting to have our money? What have we gained from the likes of Bangladesh? Zero. Some cheap workforce that could have been given to physically stronger Congolese (an example) who would do it for half the price as well, lol. On the other hand billions have been wasted in those distant countries for nothing. As if we had something to prove. History speaks for itself. None of the realities mentioned in post 62 will ever change for instance.

I don't want to associate myself with Arab-obsessed people who are of no use for us. Who have only hatred and backwardness to offer when we are moving in the right direction at last (regime policies, people were always ready by large).

Not needed. Let us improve ties with neighboring Europe (will happen not far from now due to necessity and geography), Africa, East Asia and the world powers. Enough with those failed policies.

@OutOfAmmo

 

[Saddam Hussein]

I don't like conservative Anatolian villagers, the Istanbul folk are better and would rule a lot better, unfortunately they lose to AKPMONKEYS. Know several of both of them in the Netherlands with the latter being well educated expats.

Yes, please do so. Print all the posts in this thread in the millions and hand them out in Pakistan. Maybe your like-minded people will no longer obsess about Arabs and no longer associate themselves with us. The quicker this happens, the better for Arabs. Send them to Bangladesh and India as well (Muslim lot there).

 

[Saif al-Arab]

I don't like conservative Anatolian villagers, the Istanbul folk are better and would rule a lot better, unfortunately they lose to AKPMONKEYS. Know several of both of them in the Netherlands with the latter being well educated expats.

Educated people, regardless of origin or religion, you can always relate to and have cordial discussions and personal relations with. I too prefer Turkish nationalists as I mentioned in my initial post in this absolute troll thread.

A Turkish nationalist will not deny history for instance like those Anatolian villagers. He will not seek a past (a past that he has little clue about in fact) that will never return.

Turkish nationalists will have no desire to meddle in internal Arab affairs and relations will be limited to economic cooperation and tourism which is ideal. Same story with the other lot in the east.

Those other segments in the Muslim world are a liability and in fact one of the greatest enemies of Arabs and our well-being as societies and communities.

If you look at social media, Arab English media etc. and take a look at the comment sections, most of the anti-reformists and those who complain whenever good news occurs in the Arab world (scientific, educational, environmental, political reforms etc.) are not Arabs but freaking "fellow Muslims" from South Asia mainly but not only. So-called "brothers", lol. Now what does this tell us?

I am not anti-Muslim at all (lol) nor anti-anything but the truth should be spoken. I am tired of this falsehood like the clown above who claims to care deeply for Arabs while insulting Arabs 24/7.

The most funny and tragic thing about all this, is that those same "saved Muslims", are crying about Arabs 24/7 when their own countries and societies face the same problems or worse. How about freaking solving your own problems before preaching to us? Like we don't know what to improve already. Some foreigners 1000's of km away need to tell us, lol.

BTW sadly, Istanbul has been flooded by those people. Now "locals" are outnumbered. Hence why AKP wins in Istanbul. Erdogan is a product of those neighborhoods in Istanbul btw.

Whenever village idiots reach power anywhere in the Muslim world, failure often is the end result.

Look the whole AKP lot are a joke. Erdogan's mastermind (Gulen) has now become the enemy.

Yet this is supposedly the best that the region can offer? What did I say again about fellow Muslims offering nothing or very little?

A minority of some monkeys want this **** and the other minority of monkeys want this **** to the east

WTF is this ****? We already have loud monkeys of our own so the last thing we need are similar foreign monkeys.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Educate people, regardless of origin or religion, you can always relate to and have cordial discussions and personal relations with. I too prefer Turkish nationalists as I mentioned in my initial post in this absolute troll thread.

A Turkish nationalist will not deny history for instance like those Anatolian villagers. He will not seek a past (a past that he has little clue about in fact) that will never return.

Turkish nationalists will have no desire to meddle in internal Arab affairs and relations will be limited to economic cooperation and tourism which is ideal. Same story with the other lot in the east.

Those other segments in the Muslim world are a liability and in fact one of the greatest enemies of Arabs and our well-being as societies and communities.

If you look at social media, Arab English media etc. and take a look at the comment sections, most of the anti-reformists and those who complain whenever good news occurs in the Arab world (scientific, educational, environmental, political reforms etc.) are not Arabs but freaking "fellow Muslims" from South Asia mainly but not only. So-called "brothers", lol.

Unfortunately the religious villagers have taken over power from the secularists, the nationalists. These Muslims are indeed the bigger threat, the Khameinist monkey is the threat not the Aryan supreme white-blooded but brown skinned Zoroastrian, they are harmless. The Anatolian villagers have decreased the national IQ of Turkey, they also are quite annoying, closed-minded and xenophobic to non-Turks (refusal to speak anything but Turkish), the expats from Izmir, Istanbul are very different. Although in the end they're all foreigners which is not my choice, it's how my interaction with them has been for years. Therefor I hope 'Ummah' boys can save me the brother talk.

As for foreign meddling on internal affairs, they are not brothers and I do not believe in this concept either. Someone being a Muslim doesn't mean I identify with him/her in any way, it's a too large and broad group. Islam is largely Arab culture, thus non-Arabs that keep to Islam are mixing their culture with Arab culture. I never was into the Muslim community anyway I like to keep it personal and secular.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Unfortunately the religious villagers have taken over power from the secularists, the nationalists. These Muslims are indeed the bigger threat, the Khameinist monkey is the threat not the Aryan supreme white-blooded but brown skinned Zoroastrian, they are harmless. The Anatolian villagers have decreased the national IQ of Turkey, they also are quite annoying, closed-minded and xenophobic to non-Turks (refusal to speak anything but Turkish), the expats from Izmir, Istanbul are very different. Although in the end they're all foreigners which is not my choice, it's how my interaction with them has been for years. Therefor I hope 'Ummah' boys can save me the brother talk.

As for foreign meddling on internal affairs, they are not brothers and I do not believe in this concept either. Someone being a Muslim doesn't mean I identify with him/her in any way, it's a too large and broad group. Islam is largely Arab culture, thus non-Arabs that keep to Islam are mixing their culture with Arab culture. I never was into the Muslim community anyway I like to keep it personal and secular.

Could not agree more. Trolling aside, I (and I suppose you as well) are only referring to those toxic Muslims that we have seen in this thread (the users are all familiar to us so I would not judge them based on a single thread if I did not knew them or their mentality). Those that have nothing to offer but ignorance, backwardness, hatred, meddling all the while speaking about a brotherhood that they do not follow themselves or which they follow as it suits them.

I updated my previous post.

If you want a good laugh I suggest taking a look at this video. Notice the language. Which user does this remain you of? A certain user that trolled another thread related to KSA and the heritage tourism article from CNN. Oblivious something.

The whole AKP party (ideology) is a copy of this Moroccan political party that dates back to 1957. Even their emblems are very similar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_and_Development_Party_(Morocco)

Check out the Arabic Wikipedia page.





The stupidity of the Muslim world is displayed in public spotlight when jokers like Erdogan are so deeply admired due to their populistic nonsense.

Now before some of those toxic Muslims show themselves, Arab regimes are trash as well by large, and no Arabs are pretending that they are God's gift to planet earth like certain others do with other leaders....Nobody mentioned here, lol, they know who they are.

I swear to God that I could be a better populist than him. I can write similar speeches (although I doubt that he writes his own speeches having no formal higher education).

Anyway it is not my business who other people elect or what regimes rule other countries (Iran). Unlike certain people among them, I do not obsess about their internal issues. Quite frankly I do not follow it even. Unless something is big enough to become international news.

 

[The SC]

Well.. to conclude.. the only unfinished business between Turkey and Saudi Arabia are some joint ventures in high tech.. and they are not going yo be finished soon..since they are long term business ventures..

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The old Makkah , had an alllure that you felt the old cities were same areas where the Prophet walked or the Colleagues of Rasool walked

May be the grain of sand , was walked over by Companions of prophet

Now it is just a big Casino building feels strange

Now Saudis are even digging up mountains !!! and changing the Archaeology of Makkah area

'If you see Mecca, with holes pierced through it’s mountains and it’s buildings reach the mountain tops then know that the hour has cast it's shadow.'

Abu Hurayra(Radiyallahu Anhu) reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said,

"The Final Hour will not come until people COMPETE WITH ONE ANOTHER in the height of their buildings."

The Saudis\Emarati are the misguided Arabs the hadith talks about becasue they are fascinated by tall buildings

Both these guiding remakrs were never applicable before in time / history
no one had technology to to digup whole mountains

 

[SALMAN F]

This video it's like an article was written by a stateless Kurd who say that after 2023 Greece and Armenia will reclaim lands from turkey

Erdogan boys on the other hand claim after the end of Lausanne treaty in 2023 that they will take lands from Iraq and turkey but they don't know that the age of empires is long gone just look at the Russian empire or the german empire or the austro-hungarian empire

The old Makkah , had an alllure that you felt the old cities were same areas where the Prophet walked or the Colleagues of Rasool walked

May be the grain of sand , was walked over by Companions of prophet

Now it is just a big Casino building feels strange

Now Saudis are even digging up mountains !!! and changing the Archaeology of Makkah area

Only the prophet mosque and Kaaba haram belong to islam and muslims the rest of the region and the land belong to the arabs long before Islam and the prophet

Even the prophet(pbuh) said that the medina belong to it's inhabited of awos and khazraj along with the jews

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I believe the folks lost a war , and left

 

[-SINAN-]

Erdogan boys on the other hand claim after the end of Lausanne treaty in 2023 that they will take lands from Iraq and turkey but they don't know that the age of empires is long gone just look at the Russian empire or the german empire or the austro-hungarian empire

For the 100th time, there is no such thing as "expiration of Lausanne treaty".

I'm sick of Bangladeshis and Pakistanis whom wants to see Turkey as the Champion of Islam. When you are going to understand that we are done with Ummah.

 

[SALMAN F]

For the 100th time, there is no such thing as "expiration of Lausanne treaty".

I'm sick of Bangladeshis and Pakistanis whom wants to see Turkey as the Champion of Islam. When you are going to understand that we are done with Ummah.

There also was thread opened by the member turkeyforever about this issue

Also even if this treaty is going to expire nobody want to redraw borders after 100 years

Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are delutional like their fellow Islamist arabs who think turkey is guardian of Islam while in reality they are just a regular country like others just because erdogan say things doesn't mean turkey all follow are agree with him just like trump in the US

 

[Timur]

time to save this thread I got more than I wanted