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Erdogan Preparing Turkey For 2023 - Unfinished Business With Saudi Arabia!

Arab supremacy is the biggest problem in the Muslim world today. Arabs are killing each other in a dozen countries for petty differences. The West and Israel could not be more proud of their puppets.

It is up to us, Non-Arab Muslims and Arabs who reject Western games, to create a new reality. Our struggle is the same as the Prophet Muhammad saws, Khilafat Rashidun, Imam Hussain ra, Seljuks, Ottomans, Delhi Sultunat, Mughal Sultunat, Salahuddin, Birke Khan, Mahmud e Ghazni, and so many other heroes in our history.

Our victory is assured and the games of our enemies will be revealed. Khilafat must be re-established over Hijaz and the Muslim world. Pakistan and Turkey both have important roles in this.
 
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Turkey should allow the Arabs to enjoy their new found "independence" as dictated by Israel and Uncle Sam. They stabbed us in the back for it.

If Arabs were ruling Turks whilst preaching and spreading Arab nationalism and Turks revolted against those Arabs, would you call yourself a backstabber? I don't think so. Same way we won't accept living under Kurdish monkey rules. To be honest why would I for example want to live under Turkish rule in my own country? If proper management and effective ruling is the answer then that does not lie in ethnicity.

Thus to expand on the logic above, I do not call Kurds who revolt against Iraq, Turkey traitors, they're just foreigners but with backward idea's.
 
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If Arabs were ruling Turks whilst preaching and spreading Arab nationalism and Turks revolted against those Arabs, would you call yourself a backstabber? I don't think so

Ask him about 1517. The year the Ottoman dynasty (that he had little in common with genetically) “stole” the Caliphate from the Arabs after almost 1000 years of Arab dynasties (Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid, Fatimid) ruling it. During 90% of all Islamic conquests and during the entire Islamic Golden Age.

Don’t forget that most Ottomans were ethnic Arabs, that Ottoman language was more Arabic than Turkish, that Ottoman culture was heavily influenced by Arab culture, that most of the regions in the Arab world that were de jure a part of the Ottoman entity where ruled by local Arabs. Case in point, the Sharif of Makkah and Madinah, rulers in the Maghreb (coastal Algeria, Tunisia and Libya)) and same story in Iraq and Sham. Egypt was dominated by Circassians, Albanians and other people of the Balkans (Serbians and Bosniaks). This can easily be googled. Anyway let them bark in a troll thread.

It is great entertainment IMO.

and the ones that supported us with waving turkish flags and shouting erdogans name in the streets in turkey and some arab nations in the coup attemp..
but by the way that was a poor answer to disturb your special refugee orgasms..

I also now how many refugees we got in turkey and how many their big rich arab brothers host.. I also know that SA send them bag encuraging them for jihad.. (refugee problem solved)



hmmmmmm you have a disturbed cognitive recognition of your envoiriment if you tell that me! :)

you picked the right one to tell about erdogans media.. specially when you the counterpart are sometimes repeating mbs media thats almost sputnik alike



lol we know it.. but we belive to have brought honor with our weapons and think it would be a good thing to do it again ;)

we know how arabs are.. except some romantic dazed ppl, many ppl know the truth

many arabs are narcissistic people, an enemy against themselves, and to our cultural standards lack of respect for elders and family specially their own woman.. they come with islam for their own goal and own ruling.. and will use you as cannon fodder @pakistanis for their own desires..

as always you can gather many individuals who are not like this discription but about most of their leaders and nations you can say this without fearing to be wrong

the arab world is havily under "game of thrones" the best thing is to know it and to prepare against them
I would strongly recomment turks and pakistanis and indonesians to work together and prepare themselves



read it again I said Ba'athism AND Nationalism where reasons

But, I can tell you the meaning of "and" in many languages they use the word "wa" for it, it means in this case both have that influence.. anti turkish politics and propaganda is a good tool for them because they got independent and need an external enemy and an excuse.. if you wish you can see my list as a childish timeline from bathists to nationalistic to tribes all things are true and have an influence and its absurd to reduce something to only a handfull of influences..

Cute. Did not read your usual nonsense. Try and guess if I care about the opinions of foreigners. If you can guess the answer your award will be a place on my ignore list. Great stuff.
 
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If Arabs were ruling Turks whilst preaching and spreading Arab nationalism and Turks revolted against those Arabs, would you call yourself a backstabber? I don't think so. Same way we won't accept living under Kurdish monkey rules. To be honest why would I for example want to live under Turkish rule in my own country? If proper management and effective ruling is the answer then that does not lie in ethnicity.


the answer lies in the state of your country

ppl can blame israel or us but the undeniable reality is nor its the fault of US or Israel or Brits for the Misery in ME its the fault of the ppl living there and their own decisions

undeniable is also that muslims would be THE superpower of the earth and EU and US would such far away like in stone ages if they (so called muslim lands) would have not treachery and the worst of puppets in history.. let them have cars, planes and other toys let their food be gold foild anything this is nothing.. having the most of the oil and being able to declare sanctions could make you a superpower beyond any other in history specially combined with some brain.. that is the biggest reason and the biggest fault wich is done in history.. and that is the reason why so many ppl dislike those individuals or masses
 
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the answer lies in the state of your country

Which as I explained, is not an argument for one to accept foreign rule. As this argument can easily be countered; effective rule does not lie in ethnicity. The state of my country was economically better then that of Turkey a few decades ago. Turn it around and you will stick with this logic? I thought so.

Japan's industry in post ww2 which is so highly revered for its discipline was quite a mess before an American engineer (Edwards Deming) helped them improve their processes/quality in management. His theories is what helped them improve, instead of that you are making it a case of nationality lol.

ppl can blame israel or us but the undeniable reality is nor its the fault of US or Israel or Brits for the Misery in ME its the fault of the ppl living there and their own decisions

undeniable is also that muslims would be THE superpower of the earth and EU and US would such far away like in stone ages if they (so called muslim lands) would have not treachery and the worst of puppets in history.. let them have cars, planes and other toys let their food be gold foild anything this is nothing.. having the most of the oil and being able to declare sanctions could make you a superpower beyond any other in history specially combined with some brain.. that is the biggest reason and the biggest fault wich is done in history.. and that is the reason why so many ppl dislike those individuals or masses
Not sure what you mean with treachery and puppets. Just because Turkey is playing the resistance role now you are saying this. Not long ago Iraq under Saddam was playing that resistance/anti US/anti imperialist role, Turkey was on the side with the US and the Gulf states. Apply the same logic now. What this shows is that you, and i'm sure nearly everyone here is spewing whatever fits his state interest.

Everything aside.

What Erdogan seeks is not going to happen.
 
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Which as I explained, is not an argument for one to accept foreign rule. As this argument can easily be countered; effective rule does not lie in ethnicity. The state of my country was economically better then that of Turkey a few decades ago. Turn it around and you will stick with this logic? I thought so.

Japan's industry in post ww2 which is so highly revered for its discipline was quite a mess before an American engineer (Edwards Deming) helped them improve their processes/quality in management. His theories is what helped them improve, instead of that you are making it a case of nationality lol.


Not sure what you mean with treachery and puppets. Just because Turkey is playing the resistance role now you are saying this. Not long ago Iraq under Saddam was playing that resistance/anti US/anti imperialist role, Turkey was on the side with the US and the Gulf states. Apply the same logic now. What this shows is that you, and i'm sure nearly everyone here is spewing whatever fits his state interest.

Everything aside.

What Erdogan seeks is not going to happen.

Obviously we might as well have a discussion with donkeys and the conclusion will be the same.

Your final sentence is all that matters. I might as well talk about the era when half of modern-day Turkey was ruled by Arabs and say that Syrian refugees in Turkey are going to infiltrate Turkey and make this happen again, lol. Payback for 1517!:omghaha:

Anyway let the STRONK segment have their daydreams on online forums. Hardly anything new. We have such Arabs as well. Such people can be found in every country and ethnicity. Not much you can do about it other than laughing.
 
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Obviously we might as well have a discussion with donkeys and the conclusion will be the same.

Most AKP voters are religiously conservative and react to populism, to add to that most had no high education. Expat Turks in the west are very different from the local Turks (AKP voters) in the west, either way all they've done is exploit the situation of war-ravaged nations. Nothing special and in case of Saudi Arabia it's too far away for Turkey to militarily touch that or defend Qatar. This is not the US we're speaking about.

Anyway why am I typing this shit, Too Long Didn't Read. Erdogan/Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas; they're all dogs.

You have Turkey and Iran both whom are non-Arab competing on Islam, a religion filled with Arabism. Meanwhile they both hate Arabs and want to rule over them.
 
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Most AKP voters are religiously conservative and react to populism, to add to that most had no high education. Expat Turks in the west are very different from the local Turks (AKP voters) in the west, either way all they've done is exploit the situation of war-ravaged nations. Nothing special and in case of Saudi Arabia it's too far away for Turkey to militarily touch that or defend Qatar. This is not the US we're speaking about.

Anyway why am I typing this shit, Too Long Didn't Read. Erdogan/Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas; they're all dogs.

You have Turkey and Iran both whom are non-Arab competing on Islam, a religion filled with Arabism. Meanwhile they both hate Arabs and want to rule over them.
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Fitting for this nonsense thread once again.

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Anyway there seem to be a lot of “Arabparasts” (thank you PDF for teaching me this word haha) in Turkey but it is the same case in Iran.
 
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I, we / this opinion is not asking for much. All I am asking for here is for self rule, rejecting the desires of Turkey's ruling party, or any neighbor such as Iran to rule over us(Iraq), Syria, or influence other Arabs. It's not too much to ask for is it? Yet I will surely get blasted by foreigners, I do not hate Turkey or Iran. I solely believe that they are not fit to rule Arabs, Arabs will rule themselves.

It's a joke that this has to be explained. Although this soft approach does not work with Erdogan, all he knows is strength which is the only thing he accepts as he's sort of an iron-fist ruler, not as much as Saddam but he lies in the same category.
 
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Cute. Did not read your usual nonsense. Try and guess if I care about the opinions of foreigners.

man you can live how you want and think its nonsense I know that some people cannot be made happy.. but I give you some info you are no target of my writings.. its about others ;)

The state of my country was economically better then that of Turkey a few decades ago
and still other arabs crushed you.. so much about arab nationalism.. I stop trolling: what I wanted to say with that is a few decades you had some fancy cars some fancy planes and some sort of power and you were secured and hold and seperated you were iraq, jordan is jordan, syria is syria and some kingdoms are kingdoms.. and the sowjets are the real issue now you are on the table and ppl are coming together like a dinner to pick the best parts out of you arabs.. simply and childish thinking would be now : devide and conqer

Not sure what you mean with treachery and puppets. Just because Turkey is playing the resistance role now you are saying this.

I really did not have turkey in my mind.. turkey can play what it wants.. I speak from a general point.. as if in turkey where no puppets who never choose turkish products or buried it under the sand corruption and puppets goes hand in hand..

most of erdogans speakings are for conservativ turkish voters.. dont put much value into it


Not long ago Iraq under Saddam was playing that resistance/anti US/anti imperialist role

that was a good show.. and nobody belived him.. maybe some arabs.. but no one other than arabs cried one tear drop after him..

Turkey was on the side with the US and the Gulf state

Apply the same logic now

should I say that? maybe not but I can say it this way: you fought with brits against us and we let them fight you from our territory to save the kingdoms ***.. or maybe turkey did not have any chance to act other

What Erdogan seeks is not going to happen.

he seeks for more power and union and the technological advancement of turkish industry resulting in more money for him and more power for him.. ruling other lands is not his concern..

its just some ME brainvirus that lets ppl think he will come and fight you

both hate Arabs and want to rule over them.

we could send them away we dont want to rule over them ;)

Obviously we might as well have a discussion with donkeys and the conclusion will be the same.

hello donkey :)
 
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You have Turkey and Iran both whom are non-Arab competing on Islam, a religion filled with Arabism. Meanwhile they both hate Arabs and want to rule over them.

You do not understand Islam at all? Islam is a religion for all of humanity. Did you forget the Prophet’s saws speech at His Khutba tul wida, “No Arab is superior to a Ajam (Non-Arab,) and vice versa.”

Or his Hadith to Hazrat Salman al Farsi, “ Your people (The Persians) will excel in religion to new heights never seen before.”

How about his statement about the Turks, “You (Muslims) will conquer Constantinople. That leader will be the best leader, and his army will be the best army.”

How about Pakistan, “There is a cool pleasant wind coming to me across the ocean from Sindh, Hind.” And “You will conquer Hind.”

Khurasaan (Afg/Pak/East Iran) “There will be a black flag army of Khurasaan who are blessed by Allah swt. There will be a battle, Ghazwatul Hind, when they finish taking the Kings of Hind in chains, Imam Mahdi will arrive in Madinah and they will leave everything to join him.”

Syria/Yemen vs Najd (origin of Saudi family,) “He saws said ‘Allah swt bless the people of Syria, Allah swt bless the people of Yemen.’ We (Sahaba) asked, ‘What about Najd?’ Whereupon He was silent.”

Note:Obviously some paraphrasing was done.

Prophet Muhammad saws was for all humanity. No doubt he was an Arab, but even more than that he was the ideal human being who was free of notions of superiority and arrogance.
 
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You do not understand Islam at all? Islam is a religion for all of humanity. Did you forget the Prophet’s saws speech at His Khutba tul wida, “No Arab is superior to a Ajam (Non-Arab,) and vice versa.”

Or his Hadith to Hazrat Salman al Farsi, “ Your people (The Persians) will excel in religion to new heights never seen before.”

How about his statement about the Turks, “You (Muslims) will conquer Constantinople. That leader will be the best leader, and his army will be the best army.”

How about Pakistan, “There is a cool pleasant wind coming to me across the ocean from Sindh, Hind.” And “You will conquer Hind.”

Khurasaan (Afg/Pak/East Iran) “There will be a black flag army of Khurasaan who are blessed by Allah swt. There will be a battle, Ghazwatul Hind, when they finish taking the Kings of Hind in chains, Imam Mahdi will arrive in Madinah and they will leave everything to join him.”

Note:Obviously some paraphrasing was done.

Prophet Muhammad saws was for all humanity. No doubt he was an Arab, but even more than that he was the ideal human being who was free of notions of superiority and arrogance.

What do you mean with humanity?
 
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its just some ME brainvirus that lets ppl think he will come and fight you

I'm not thinking, i'm seeing him sending troops into Syria, forming a force and planting Turkish flags everywhere. Making use of a chaotic situation to exert his influence in a tiny canton where he was able to do so.
 
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