Enough with the racism against Bengalis on Fake Genocide Remembrance Day

[Ace of Spades]

Mahajanapada is again a Gangu word and not a Gandhara word

It is indeed difficult to get some logic across to people from ganga and jumna.

Lacks Ancestry from Steppe Pastoralists or Iranian Farmers

the skeletons LACK ancestry from the steppes or Iranian farmers...which means the Ancestors of the Rakhigarhi skeletons were native to Haryana since time immemorial

So you are equating probability to causality; do you go to university in Germany? Ask some of your statistics professor what does that mean.

 

[Michael Corleone]

The indian civilization started from indus which is in Pakistan. The language they speak originates from Muslim empire not native to India.
Bangladesh has everything to do with India. Even your Prime minister looks more Indian then Indians them self. Your women even put red dot on their forehead.

Debatable. Indus originates from within India... many of Indus Valley is in India to so Pakistanis alone cannot claim it to justify their origin story.
Urdu is persianised structured Hindustani language which is why y’all mutually can understand each other but while Urdu draws grammatical structure from Persian, Hindi does from Sanskrit. And as for judging someone by their appearance. A quick YouTube search in Pakistan shows average Pakistanis aren’t so different from Indians at all... after all they’re mostly North Indians so I don’t see your point

Which is made far greater by there being NO GENUINE OR CREDIBLE evidence that the Pakistani Army committed war crimes against bengali civilians in 1971. You guys were killing each other. We were the neutrals. At MOST, the Pakistani Army MAY have treated bengalis badly but that was it. We weren't killing them. You guys were doing a fine job of that yourselves.

And yet your administrator posts a document where there is signature of Pakistani foreign minister among other accepting responsibility of the atrocities of the war in exchange for POW. noice

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

This is part of the title:
Lacks Ancestry from Steppe Pastoralists or Iranian Farmers

the skeletons LACK ancestry from the steppes or Iranian farmers...which means the Ancestors of the Rakhigarhi skeletons were native to Haryana since time immemorial




where does it say those skeletons came from outside?

............EXACTLY!!!!!!.......haryana is in india and you can tell by looking at indians/people from haryana that they don't have Iranian DNA or ancestry......................but what has that got to do with Mohenjen-daro and Harrappa, the IVC in Pakistan?????.................you don't realise but YOU YOURSELF is proving your own self to be wrong...............keep going!........

Debatable. Indus originates from within India... many of Indus Valley is in India to so Pakistanis alone cannot claim it to justify their origin story.
Urdu is persianised structured Hindustani language which is why y’all mutually can understand each other but while Urdu draws grammatical structure from Persian, Hindi does from Sanskrit. And as for judging someone by their appearance. A quick YouTube search in Pakistan shows average Pakistanis aren’t so different from Indians at all... after all they’re mostly North Indians so I don’t see your point


And yet your administrator posts a document where there is signature of Pakistani foreign minister among other accepting responsibility of the atrocities of the war in exchange for POW. noice

That in itself proves nothing. He probably did it to secure the release of the POWs. NOTHING more. NOW, as I have been requesting for nearly 5 years, WHERE is the GENUINE/CREDIBLE evidence that the PA committed war crime in bangladesh in 1971? Evidence that would hold up at the War Crimes tribunal in the Hague? There is NONE.

It is indeed difficult to get some logic across to people from ganga and jumna.



So you are equating probability to causality; do you go to university in Germany? Ask some of your statistics professor what does that mean.

It's DNA from the remains of some ancient indian. OF COURSE it has 0 Iranian/Persian DNA.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

It is indeed difficult to get some logic across to people from ganga and jumna.



So you are equating probability to causality; do you go to university in Germany? Ask some of your statistics professor what does that mean.

my student days are long behind me...you cannot claim to be scientific now when you previously tried to claim all of IVC for present day state of Pakistan.........If you do try to be scientific ever, then let me know, there are plenty of my threads and that go into exact historical details and have won positive ratings from the mods and plenty of upvotes from Pakistani members..I get it...you guys want to claim a different racial and cultural heritage for the people of Pakistan and in some ways you are more than half way right...but if we REALLY want to be academic about it, then that difference arose after the catastrophic climate induced collapse of the IVC...my earliest threads have gotten the highest positive ratings of perhaps any Indian poster on PDF as I get the crux of the Pakistani claim

There is somewhat racial and cultural disconnect between Pakistan and India that predates Islam but it also post-dates IVC

but if I get trollish responses, I troll back if I have time on my hand ...if you ever want resources to strengthen the case of Ind-Pak cultural and racial disconnect, I am perhaps the most qualified one to furnish those resources...ask around even Pakistani members who always emphasize the secular cultural and racial distinction of Pakistan vis-a-vis India

A single post of mine detailing those differences got 4 seperate positive ratings from the Mods

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Debatable. Indus originates from within India... many of Indus Valley is in India to so Pakistanis alone cannot claim it to justify their origin story.
Urdu is persianised structured Hindustani language which is why y’all mutually can understand each other but while Urdu draws grammatical structure from Persian, Hindi does from Sanskrit. And as for judging someone by their appearance. A quick YouTube search in Pakistan shows average Pakistanis aren’t so different from Indians at all... after all they’re mostly North Indians so I don’t see your point


And yet your administrator posts a document where there is signature of Pakistani foreign minister among other accepting responsibility of the atrocities of the war in exchange for POW. noice

IVC is the ancient civilisation that was based around the Indus River, which is in Pakistan, not india.

my student days are long behind me...you cannot claim to be scientific now when you previously tried to claim all of IVC for present day state of Pakistan.........If you do try to be scientific ever, then let me know, there are plenty of my threads and that go into exact historical details and have won positive ratings from the mods and plenty of upvotes from Pakistani members..I get it...you guys want to claim a different racial and cultural heritage for the people of Pakistan and in some ways you are more than half way right...but if we REALLY want to be academic about it, then that difference arose after the catastrophic climate induced collapse of the IVC...my earliest threads have gotten the highest positive ratings of perhaps any Indian poster on PDF as I get the crux of the Pakistani claim

There is somewhat racial and cultural disconnect between Pakistan and India that predates Islam but it also post-dates IVC

but if I get trollish responses, I troll back if I have time on my hand ...if you ever want resources to strengthen the case of Ind-Pak cultural and racial disconnect, I am perhaps the most qualified one to furnish those resources...ask around even Pakistani members who always emphasize the secular cultural and racial distinction of Pakistan vis-a-vis India

A single post of mine detailing those differences got 4 seperate positive ratings from the Mods

A bit like how you were qualified to find out that ancient indians had 0 Northern Iranian/Persian DNA...........

 

[Ace of Spades]

my student days are long behind me...you cannot claim to be scientific now when you previously tried to claim all of IVC for present day state of Pakistan.........If you do try to be scientific ever, then let me know, there are plenty of my threads and that go into exact historical details and have won positive ratings from the mods and plenty of upvotes from Pakistani members..I get it...you guys want to claim a different racial and cultural heritage for the people of Pakistan and in some ways you are more than half way right...but if we REALLY want to be academic about it, then that difference arose after the catastrophic climate induced collapse of the IVC...my earliest threads have gotten the highest positive ratings of perhaps any Indian poster on PDF as I get the crux of the Pakistani claim

There is somewhat racial and cultural disconnect between Pakistan and India that predates Islam but it also post-dates IVC

but if I get trollish responses, I troll back if I have time on my hand ...if you ever want resources to strengthen the case of Ind-Pak cultural and racial disconnect, I am perhaps the most qualified one to furnish those resources...ask around even Pakistani members who always emphasize the secular cultural and racial distinction of Pakistan vis-a-vis India

A single post of mine detailing those differences got 4 seperate positive ratings from the Mods

I am not looking at your "positive rated" posts and threads for reference when you are having a discussion with me on this particular thread. If you want to quote some logical argument from some of your previous post, it's more than welcome. Also, if you go through my replies i said indian Punjabis are the ones who shared our civilization at it's peak, and so did some little part of gujarat. But if you are gonna come up with claims that have no scientific, neither logical reasoning than it's indeed trolling and i have rather replied you in good faith and tried to reason.

 

[Michael Corleone]

That in itself proves nothing. He probably did it to secure the release of the POWs. NOTHING more. NOW, as I have been requesting for nearly 5 years, WHERE is the GENUINE/CREDIBLE evidence that the PA committed war crime in bangladesh in 1971? Evidence that would hold up at the War Crimes tribunal in the Hague? There is NONE

Since we’re apparently just defaming you, it must be impacting your relations with other countries and your economy. Y’all have enough evidence. Why don’t y’all launch a defamation lawsuit against us? I’m sure y’all will win, we can even pay for the trouble from our foreign reserves

IVC is the ancient civilisation that was based around the Indus River, which is in Pakistan, not india.

Where does it flow through? Lmao

 

[Al-zakir]

Give this shit a rest and start building medical equipment, especially ventilators. How long you going to depends on others?

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

I am not looking at your "positive rated" posts and threads for reference when you are having a discussion with me on this particular thread. If you want to quote some logical argument from some of your previous post, it's more than welcome. Also, if you go through my replies i said indian Punjabis are the ones who shared our civilization at it's peak, and so did some little part of gujarat. But if you are gonna come up with claims that have no scientific, neither logical reasoning than it's indeed trolling and i have rather replied you in good faith and tried to reason.

This is my basic argument the whole North West India and present day Pakistan was one unit in IVC days....(we are talking up to Yamuna and western sections of Ganga) and down till the southern-most points of Gujarat where it meets with Maharashtra

Then the catastrophic collapse happened (along with the drying up of Saraswati around 1900 BCE)

The Thar desert formed as well as the Salt Flats of the Rann of Kutch

Only a small band in the north along Punjab and Haryana remained connected with present day Pakistan

Wars started happening in the connecting band between India and Pakistan...the first documented historical war in this region were the Battle of the Ten Kings ...out come of the first war was that areas west of Chenab especially areas of west of Ravi became slightly taboo for the Vedic Aryans of the Kuru Bharata dynasty-->the same dynasty that sponsored the Rig Veda

Later all the empires that emerged deep within in India stopped at Sialkot (with the sole exception of the Mauryas)

between 1500 BCE and 400 AD that divide between those east of Chenab and those west of Chenab got solidified...as more and more nomadic tribes from Central Asia started settling in what is present day Pakistan

Let's end the discussion here..I am not the one who would deny that Indians and Pakistanis are different...and that difference has a 3,500 year basis

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Debatable. Indus originates from within India... many of Indus Valley is in India to so Pakistanis alone cannot claim it to justify their origin story.
Urdu is persianised structured Hindustani language which is why y’all mutually can understand each other but while Urdu draws grammatical structure from Persian, Hindi does from Sanskrit. And as for judging someone by their appearance. A quick YouTube search in Pakistan shows average Pakistanis aren’t so different from Indians at all... after all they’re mostly North Indians so I don’t see your point

You know nothing boy.

Indus river does start from India but when we talk about indus civilization it origins is only in PAKISTAN not India!
So Pakistani origins are from Muslim empire all the way up to Indus civilization which has NOTHING to do with India. Where as Bangali are pretty much eastern indians.
The oral urdu is a mixture of Muslim empire languages that evolved over period of time. Urdu has nothing to do with Indian language rather Hindi has A LOT to do with urdu language since All India used to be under Muslim empire. On the other hand, Bangladesh adopted sanskrit scripture among many other things from India.
Speaking of appearance.
You cant even tell the difference between these group of women as they all look the same.

Compared to Pakistanis

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

The blonde Muslim Viking has made landfall

 

[El Sidd]

What? Because I read from diverse sources I’m a nazi now? Amazing logic. The same idiocy is present in Bangladesh who calls me razakar...

You are legitimizing the Nazi Bahani occupation of Bangladesh.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Since we’re apparently just defaming you, it must be impacting your relations with other countries and your economy. Y’all have enough evidence. Why don’t y’all launch a defamation lawsuit against us? I’m sure y’all will win, we can even pay for the trouble from our foreign reserves


Where does it flow through? Lmao

Funnily enough, the parts of india it flows through, has no remnants of the IVC.

PS Why would we even bother filing a lawsuit?.......... even the indian and bengali elite don't believe the BS fairy tales pointed at the Pakistani Army about 1971. So much so they have NEVER EVER even contacted the International War Crimes tribunal in the Hague let alone present them any evidence....... NOBODY cares about it so why should we?.........

 

[Michael Corleone]

You are legitimizing the Nazi Bahani occupation of Bangladesh.

How?

 

[El Sidd]

How?

by accepting identity documents provided by the government of Bangladesh