Egyptians complain over Netflix depiction of Cleopatra as black

[Paitoo]

The only time I have seen Cleopatra is in an Asterix comic

They keep referring to her 'pointy nose' in the comic and it is an object of great admiration among the Gauls and Romans alike

 

[Valar.]

The black African Americans have been claiming for a long time that Cleopatra is black.

Because they want to be proud of something from ancient history(and modern times) which comes from Africa so that they can feel better about themselves.

From ancient times, when they can't find anything worthy, they start claiming Egyptian history as theirs, hence this show.

From modern times, they simply can't find a single god forsaken country in Africa which is scientifically/technologically advanced, well, there they start making movies about a fictional country Wakanda.

It is a bitter harsh truth. It is sad. And it is pathetic.

 

[FuturePAF]

^ That's the real reason.


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Cleopatra was known for her “entanglements” so Jada might be a good actress to convincingly portray Cleopatra.

 

[khansaheeb]

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African Queens: Queen Cleopatra features British actress Adele James as the Egyptian ruler

A Netflix docudrama series that depicts Queen Cleopatra VII as a black African has sparked controversy in Egypt.

A lawyer has filed a complaint that accuses African Queens: Queen Cleopatra of violating media laws and aiming to "erase the Egyptian identity".

A top archaeologist insisted Cleopatra was "light-skinned, not black".

But the producer said "her heritage is highly debated" and the actress playing her told critics: "If you don't like the casting, don't watch the show."

Adele James made the comment in a Twitter post featuring screengrabs of abusive comments that included racist slurs.

Cleopatra was born in the Egyptian city of Alexandria in 69 BC and became the last queen of a Greek-speaking dynasty founded by Alexander the Great's Macedonian general Ptolemy.

She succeeded her father Ptolemy XII in 51 BC and ruled until her death in 30 BC. Afterwards, Egypt fell under Roman domination.

The identity of Cleopatra's mother is not known, and historians say it is possible that she, or any other female ancestor, was an indigenous Egyptian or from elsewhere in Africa.

Netflix's companion website Tudum reported in February that the choice to cast Adele James, a British actress who is of mixed race, as Cleopatra in its new documentary series was "a nod to the centuries-long conversation about the ruler's race".

Jada Pinkett Smith, the American actress who was executive producer and narrator, was meanwhile quoted as saying: "We don't often get to see or hear stories about black queens, and that was really important for me, as well as for my daughter, and just for my community to be able to know those stories because there are tons of them!"

But when the trailer was released last week many Egyptians condemned the depiction of Cleopatra.

Zahi Hawass, a prominent Egyptologist and former antiquities minister, told the al-Masry al-Youm newspaper: "This is completely fake. Cleopatra was Greek, meaning that she was light-skinned, not black."

Mr Hawass said the only rulers of Egypt known to have been black were the Kushite kings of the 25th Dynasty (747-656 BC).
"Netflix is trying to provoke confusion by spreading false and deceptive facts that the origin of the Egyptian civilisation is black," he added and called on Egyptians to take a stand against the streaming giant.

On Sunday, lawyer Mahmoud al-Semary filed a complaint with the public prosecutor demanding that he take "the necessary legal measures" and block access to Netflix's services in Egypt.

He alleged that the series included visual material and content that violated Egypt's media laws and accused Netflix of trying to "promote the Afrocentric thinking... which includes slogans and writings aimed at distorting and erasing the Egyptian identity".
Three years ago, plans for a movie about Cleopatra starring the Israeli actress Gal Gadot triggered a heated debate on social media, with some people insisting that the role should instead go to an Arab or African actress.

Gadot subsequently defended the casting decision, saying: "We were looking for a Macedonian actress that could fit Cleopatra. She wasn't there, and I was very passionate about Cleopatra."

Egyptians complain over Netflix depiction of Cleopatra as black

A lawyer files a suit against Netflix, saying its docudrama aims to "distort the Egyptian identity".

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I have seen a lot of dark skinned Greeks, the country is quite hot and a lot of people are tanned especially the farmers.

 

[Valar.]

I have seen a lot of dark skinned Greeks, the country is quite hot and a lot of people are tanned especially the farmers.

Being tanned does not equal to being black. That's the thing.

 

[Maula Jatt]

The only time I have seen Cleopatra is in an Asterix comic

They keep referring to her 'pointy nose' in the comic and it is an object of great admiration among the Gauls and Romans alike

Well than That solves this great mystery
Cleopatra was neither Greek nor native Egyptian nor African

She was ancient pakee named Chaandni

https://images.dawn.com/news/1191250
We wuzz pharohs and shitttzz

Islam cricket big noses playa hating excess body hair
Unites all us Pakistanis

 

[Abid123]

Well than That solves this great mystery
Cleopatra was neither Greek nor native Egyptian nor African

She was ancient pakee named Chaandni

https://images.dawn.com/news/1191250
We wuzz pharohs and shitttzz

Islam cricket big noses playa hating excess body hair
Unites all us Pakistanis

What is exactly is a "Pakistani nose"? Lmao..

 

[gambit]

Movie Director has their own interest when making movies.

The solution is for Egyptian themselves to make their own Cleopatra movie version. Dont deepend on American producer and movie company.

Bias news reporting, bias Youtube video making about particular country is not a secret.

No need to protest, just make the alternative and contra narrative.

We laughed at Hollywood's whitewashing and in a way, this blackwashing is in response to that. To this day, I still never seen 1956 'The Conqueror' where John Wayne was Genghis Khan.

If you list 10 movies, 7 of them I have never seen, including ET. But I do keep track of social movements. This is a stupid one.

 

[Paitoo]

Well than That solves this great mystery
Cleopatra was neither Greek nor native Egyptian nor African

She was ancient pakee named Chaandni

https://images.dawn.com/news/1191250
We wuzz pharohs and shitttzz

Islam cricket big noses playa hating excess body hair
Unites all us Pakistanis

No. Pointy and big ain't the same thing. Big nose = something like that guy called Krukhut in the middle.
Cleo's nose is extremely pointy, the only Egyptian who has that nose among all the Egyptians in the story.

 

[gambit]

Because they want to be proud of something from ancient history(and modern times) which comes from Africa so that they can feel better about themselves.

From ancient times, when they can't find anything worthy, they start claiming Egyptian history as theirs, hence this show.

From modern times, they simply can't find a single god forsaken country in Africa which is scientifically/technologically advanced, well, there they start making movies about a fictional country Wakanda.

It is a bitter harsh truth. It is sad. And it is pathetic.

Be careful, he will start accusing you of hating blacks.

 

[khansaheeb]

Being tanned does not equal to being black. That's the thing.

I was taking a class of year 7s in a school in the UK around 6 years ago. They were aged just over 11 years old. Quite a well behaved class and all sitting around an arranged square of tables. A commotion started between two pupils sitting next to each other, one a "white" boy and the other a "black" girl. The young boy complained to me that the girl sitting next to him was calling him a "whitey" and the girl complained to me the boy was calling her a "blackie". So I asked the class to find me a plain black sheet of paper and a plain white sheet of paper. Then I got the pupils to present their hands and did the "shades" test with the sheets of paper. Yes the boy wasn't "White" compared to the white sheet of paper , more pinkish dark white and quite a stark difference with the white sheet of paper. The girl wasn't "black" but in fact a dark shade of brown. So, I told them neither were white or black. The class and the two kids fell silent, and peace was restored. Differences are used for domination and bullying and are just concocted pretexts. White and black are colonial designations need to be removed from colonist vocabularies.

 

[Maula Jatt]

No. Pointy and big ain't the same thing. Big nose = something like that guy called Krukhut in the middle.
Cleo's nose is extremely pointy, the only Egyptian who has that nose among all the Egyptians in the story.

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Wtf now we can't even Kaang over ancient Egyptians anymore like the African American folks

Thanks for ruining my day nibba

 

[Paitoo]

Wtf now we can't even Kaang over ancient Egyptians like the African American folks

Thanks for ruining my day nibba
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You can always name yourself Pharaoh Jutt

 

[Dalit]

Be careful, he will start accusing you of hating blacks.

Well, you are black hater. That much has been established.

I was taking a class of year 7s in a school in the UK around 6 years ago. They were aged just over 11 years old. Quite a well behaved class and all sitting around an arranged square of tables. A commotion started between two pupils sitting next to each other, one a "white" boy and the other a "black" girl. The young boy complained to me that the girl sitting next to him was calling him a "whitey" and the girl complained to me the boy was calling her a "blackie". So I asked the class to find me a plain black sheet of paper and a plain white sheet of paper. Then I got the pupils to present their hands and did the "shades" test with the sheets of paper. Yes the boy wasn't "White" compared to the white sheet of paper , more pinkish dark white and quite a stark difference with the white sheet of paper. The girl wasn't "black" but in fact a dark shade of brown. So, I told them neither were white or black. The class and the two kids fell silent, and peace was restored. Differences are used for domination and bullying and are just concocted pretexts. White and black are colonial designations need to be removed from colonist vocabularies.

You should do this same experiment with this fool @gambit He might actually improve mentally.

 

[Indos]

No. Pointy and big ain't the same thing. Big nose = something like that guy called Krukhut in the middle.
Cleo's nose is extremely pointy, the only Egyptian who has that nose among all the Egyptians in the story.

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Can you show us real women face with your version of Cleopatra nose ?

From what I know, the perfect nose according to white women is a nose that is not bumpy, but small one. Many White women does surgery to get that nose. Something like Tomb Raider player ( I forget her name )