Egypt calls Erdogan statements ‘ironic,’ accuses Turkey of sponsoring terrorism

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@mike2000 is back

we can say double standards..
when it comes to the issue of palestine ppl will call out others for traitors, satans, religious ignorant, hater or what ever they have in mind.. for them it is an obligation.. but they have double standards when it comes to soemthing else.. as if some ppl are above the others..

like in kashmir than you will see their twisted mind.. or myanmar or east turkestan.. in some cases its much much much worser than in israel and than this ppl again : they wont say satan again.. the religious obligation will not be in their mind and ppl will begin to deny any occurance of worse things happening in other countries..
as for turkey we stand on pakistani side while we also have ties to india, we stand on philistine side while we also have ties to israel if we would be world leader in everything than the situation could be different.. we cant starve india to death if they do not obey us.. we are not the USA.. but for short when it comes in terms to israel ppl act if this is something out of the space.. they will begin to defend and find cases and to bring up anything against it.. but they will never ever do the same for others even if the others are really badly slaughtered or opressed even if they cant practice their religion no in this case having relations with the opressor is ok..

and when it comes to the really big one like US or other big ones.. wich from some are really responsible for many many many muslims death they wont do the same like against israel why? because being against israel is not hurting them: its not hurting their house, their car, their mobile phone, their motorcycle and so on..their wealth is not touched

therefore you can easily have double standards and act like things dont happen and say nothing against worser situations.. this is real hypocrisy..

I agree with all your points. well said.

You are implying Egypt and Saudi Arabia support Israel. One form of support/recognition is engaging in trade with a country. So if you do it why are you bashing Egypt exclusively? Ironically, Saudi Arabia is only one out of three without economic ties with Israel.

Two things: Hypocrisy and trying to claim the moral high ground over others. lol

 

[Falcon29]

@mike2000 is back

like in kashmir than you will see their twisted mind.. or myanmar or east turkestan.. in some cases its much much much worser than in israel and than this ppl again : they wont say satan again.. the religious obligation will not be in their mind and ppl will begin to deny any occurance of worse things happening in other countries..
as for turkey we stand on pakistani side while we also have ties to india, we stand on philistine side while we also have ties to israel if we would be world leader in everything than the situation could be different.. we cant starve india to death if they do not obey us.. we are not the USA.. but for short when it comes in terms to israel ppl act if this is something out of the space.. they will begin to defend and find cases and to bring up anything against it.. but they will never ever do the same for others even if the others are really badly slaughtered or opressed even if they cant practice their religion no in this case having relations with the opressor is ok..

and when it comes to the really big one like US or other big ones.. wich from some are really responsible for many many many muslims death they wont do the same like against israel why? because being against israel is not hurting them: its not hurting their house, their car, their mobile phone, their motorcycle and so on..their wealth is not touched

therefore you can easily have double standards and act like things dont happen and say nothing against worser situations.. this is real hypocrisy..

also arabs hold huge amounts of petrol they could have easy starve all countries who support israel but this didnt happen and why?

Most Arabs are poor and not wealthy. Most Arabs are recovering from war. So they can't help themselves let alone anyone else. US is not dependent on Arab oil anymore, so again you're wrong.

You need to be realistic, what do you want people to do for Uyghurs? They are Chinese people themselves and they don't have other country like you call it 'East Turkestan'. So what do you want people to do for them? Don't just complain but put forth no realistic plan. No one will support separatism in China if that's what your aim is. So tell us what you want to be done.

Palestine is a whole country that has been occupied and its a lot worse than anything else out there. Gaza has been besieged for 13 years, in the longest siege there is. There is no other modern example reminiscent to what happened in Palestine. Palestine is not just a disputed territory that two countries are fighting over. Palestine is a whole country that has been taken over.

As for abuse of minorities, that is sadly very common around world, including in some Muslim nations. And there has been much action taken to prevent these abuses. Just because you don't follow up with things doesn't mean no one is doing anything about it. Even US sanctioned Myanmar government.

@mike2000 is back

we can say double standards..
when it comes to the issue of palestine ppl will call out others for traitors, satans, religious ignorant, hater or what ever they have in mind.. for them it is an obligation.. but they have double standards when it comes to soemthing else.. as if some ppl are above the others..

So no, genius, there is no 'double standards'. Just because some Muslims talk about Palestine doesn't mean anything on ground is being done. Palestinians are on their own and making their own effort to survive. Egypt doesn't support us like Pakistan support Kashmiri's. Or how Turks in Cyprus have support of Turkey. Our situation is way worse than any other situation out there. It's not about numbers game or abuses.

We had our whole country taken, while you already have big and powerful country. Yet you're greedy and want everyone to support Uyghurs not because of humanitarian reasons but because their Turkic background. I empathize with them for humanitarian reasons and not for ulterior motives like your 'East Turkestan' nonsense.

And no, Arabs will not go fight a nuclear super power like China just because you want Uyghurs to separate from China and join Turkey. Go do it yourself. A lot of non-Arabs here support China in this regard and you never said anything against them , only against Arabs.

So bring up realistic solutions or just spread the word to increase pressure on Chinese government or Indian government. No one will come fight wars for anyone else. If there is going to be any war it will be between the people who live there. So Pakistanis-Indians, Turks-Chinese, Arabs-Israeli's. And all are very risky and dangerous.

 

[beijingwalker]

You need to be realistic, what do you want people to do for Uyghurs? They are Chinese people themselves and they don't have other country like you call it 'East Turkestan'. So what do you want people to do for them? Don't just complain but put forth no realistic plan. No one will support separatism in China if that's what your aim is. So tell us what you want to be done.

Many Turks do.

 

[Falcon29]

Many Turks do.

And they're wrong in that regard and shouldn't. I believe Chinese government can be talked into or pressured into ending mistreatment of Uyghurs but not in that way. Nor do I see that whole Muslim world need to cut ties with China or go to war with it.

 

[beijingwalker]

you're greedy and want everyone to support Uyghurs not because of humanitarian reasons but because their Turkic background. I empathize with them for humanitarian reasons and not for ulterior motives like your 'East Turkestan' nonsense.

And no, Arabs will not go fight a nuclear super power like China just because you want Uyghurs to separate from China and join Turkey. Go do it yourself. A lot of non-Arabs here support China in this regard and you never said anything against them , only against Arabs.

So bring up realistic solutions or just spread the word to increase pressure on Chinese government or Indian government. No one will come fight wars for anyone else. If there is going to be any war it will be between the people who live there. So Pakistanis-Indians, Turks-Chinese, Arabs-Israeli's. And all are very risky and dangerous.

Nail on the head, man, nail on the head.

And they're wrong in that regard and shouldn't. I believe Chinese government can be talked into or pressured into ending mistreatment of Uyghurs but not in that way. Nor do I see that whole Muslim world need to cut ties with China or go to war with it.

I think it's due to misunderstanding and different perspective, China wants the best for all the citizens, including Uighurs, China never hates her own people, western propaganda always say how cruel and savage China treats her own citizens, that's totally a lie, if there's misunderstandings, there are always channels that China likes to talk with concerning countries, what US is doing is just to cut China down, nothing else, Muslims are the last people they really care.

 

[Falcon29]

Nail on the head, man, nail on the head.


I think it's due to misunderstanding and different perspective, China wants the best for all the citizens, including Uighurs, China never hates her own people, western propaganda always say how cruel and savage China treats her own citizens, that's totally a lie, if there's misunderstandings, there are always channels that China likes to talk with concerning countries, what US is doing is just to cut China down, nothing else, Muslims are the last people they really care.

I'm aware US has its own motives in covering the situation extensively but nevertheless there are abuses taking place. Imo, China can have done without them, they had good reputation in Muslim world/Arab world. Now it is not the same as before. I understand Chinese is not anti-muslim and just anti-religion but it could approach matters differently. So we can agree to disagree, don't want to have a debate over it.

^^

This doesn't look good on you guys. So it is your country's choice but it will have lead to people developing negative impressions of Chinese government.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Erdogan says something About Izrael and the voice comes from SA and Egypt.. such an interesting world..

P.s. SA is Saudi Arabia, not south Africa folks.

 

[Trango Towers]

My favourite DICKtator

 

[dBSPL]

Many Turks do.

Most of the Turks support China's territorial integrity. However, due to the many content stream in Turkey, precision about the East Turkestan is growing. China is still a sympathetic country in Turkish public opinion, but you can appreciate that the atlantic media is very influential on the European continent. Soon I will start sharing more detailed content on this topic. You can help me to fix if manipulative ones inside.

 

[Timur]

US is not dependent on Arab oil anymore, so again you're wrong

yes you see it correctly but I add something to your point: this is due to what I wrote before.. they didnt do anything because they couldnt (western puppets) and money was simply sweeter.. what I wrote was about the past they didnt work together in this issue but they would be sucessfull if they would have!

You need to be realistic, what do you want people to do for Uyghurs?

or kashmiris or rohingya.. lets be realistic far away countries they are not paying my bills..

is that really your point? its annoying simple! maybe you ask it back to yourself what do you want ppl to do for palestine? is it not hypocrisy and double standards if you think about it?! you are confirming my previous post..

hey are Chinese people themselves and they don't have other country like you call it 'East Turkestan'

and you are israelian.. should I laugh or cry now ? you mean slit eyes and they are chinese? than what does make palestinians different from israelians? the missing curly hair? you are talking excatly like your israelian counterpart.. but do you realize it.. no? uyghur ppl are turkic and they had a country like you had in the past..

realistic plan

so double standard hypocrisy again! it would be unacceptable - if we would be "realistic" with palestine ! you can also say we have an enemy there (EU USA and Israel) wich is the leader of the world and we do not have the power! but than you will claim we are shaitan or other evil stuff..

I really wanted to write about ppl who would excatly come with your arguments but I didnt do it in the first place.. I waited for a reply.. you see the enemy in your case is bigger than the enemy in kashmir or east turkestan and far bigger than myanmar but no one says in your case "what should we do" or "what do you want ppl to do" and than ppl will also say I am doing fitna now! double standards are fitna! and evilness! it leads to seperation and enemiosity among ppl.. my whole case here is against double standards and the conflict in myanmar or kashmir or east turkestan or elsewhere is equal or some are worser than what palestinians face..

Palestine is a whole country that has been occupied

and you mean kashmir is not a country that is occupied and annexed? or e. turkestan a country that is annexed?
the reality is philistine is not a country.. its actually a state not really accepted by some countries as a real country.. despite kashmir the other two had existed as a country in the past..

lot worse than anything else out there

so you mean your ppl are getting raped? they have to marry jews? a jew is in your family and watching you? thyou guys arnt allowed to say bismillah or do a friday prayer? or did jews let you forcully put alcohol on ramadan in your throat? or are palestinians being mass deported? or are they decreasing in numbers because they are in camps or slaughtered? the cities such destroyed that no stones glue to each other and are in broken pieces? be real! be real and dont act as if the whole world is about you..!

there are muslims who face what I wrote! and yet you say they dont or see it as a lesser thing!

I talked about double standards they are reality! you guys have double standards and this is disgusting.. ppl at least can say something but what do we see..? ppl are siding up with opressors and they act as if there is no opression! see saudi arabia or uae their voices for kashmir and s.turkestan.. as much as i dislike erdogan sometimes he does the right.. he has ties to india but he wasnt silent about kashmir or acting as if there is nothing.. and than ppl come and fart about not accepting jewish state! BLA BLA! you guys are fake! if you cant accept jewish state than what is about the other states I mentioned? you accept them? again some will find excuses and fart about going into war with this or that wich nobody has mentioned to do!

I do not defend the ugly opressors and I wont talk it sweet.. ppl faced fitna in chechnya, and I spoke for them. ppl faced fitna in iraq and I spoke for them! ppl face fitna in palestine I speak for them! ppl face fitna in Kashmir I speak for them! ppl face fitna in myanmar I speak for them and ppl face fitna in east turkestan I speak for them.. simple as it is my support for them here from germany.. ppl can do something, let it be little things like you can speak and defend them, you have maybe money you can spend it for them.. there are so much different ways to give some support maybe you can make a youtube video if you have the ability, or write articles, or organise ppl or just talk to some friends! or some ppl are demonstrating somewhere you bring them something to drink.. its support.. who among us can form an army to end the unjust opressors? is it that what I asked for? No! I just talked about ppl who have double standards and about ppl who would be silent if it is about their wealth that is being touched if they begin to speak.. I may add another groub.. the ones who are silent because of racism..

look you say what should we do.. I ask you also a question wich you never ask yourself! what could you do for your own issue? throwing stones? why not fight a real fight with guns and stop sending children to throw stones? we turks fight in the past against many countries we fought against arabs, greeks, armenians, russians, french and a big player england it was on our worst time when we fell down but we did struggle and we didnt gave up or do unnesessary stuff and thanks to the almighty he gave us power to overthrow our enemies! as for turkestan we only wish for them to live in peace and security same for others..

in short what I want to say is this: we muslims should leave this idiotic racism and acting as if others are better than others.. and one conflict has the same value as the other .. and hailing some ppl is not healthy you will find good ppl among all folks..

 

[zectech]

The mouth of the CIA regurgitates something. CIA starts these terror groups and then CIA puppets attack people fighting terrorism...

And I find humorous that the Sisi regime is being called 'Egypt'. Egypt deserves this dictator of theirs.

These comments from the Sisi regime are literally out of the mouth of Washington, but they are too dumb to speak. So they have these surrogates.

 

[Falcon29]

yes you see it correctly but I add something to your point: this is due to what I wrote before.. they didnt do anything because they couldnt (western puppets) and money was simply sweeter.. what I wrote was about the past they didnt work together in this issue but they would be sucessfull if they would have!

Work on what??

or kashmiris or rohingya.. lets be realistic far away countries they are not paying my bills..

is that really your point? its annoying simple! maybe you ask it back to yourself what do you want ppl to do for palestine? is it not hypocrisy and double standards if you think about it?! you are confirming my previous post..

No, it's not hypocrisy, simply put there is not much anyone can do about Palestine or Kashmir without getting into risky and dangerous situation. I don't think Muslims are ready for that at the moment. So in the meantime, smuggling weapons into Palestine and Kashmir and activism is only available path.

and you are israelian.. should I laugh or cry now ? you mean slit eyes and they are chinese? than what does make palestinians different from israelians? the missing curly hair? you are talking excatly like your israelian counterpart.. but do you realize it.. no? uyghur ppl are turkic and they had a country like you had in the past..

I'm not worried about their background, I'm worried about the abuses taking place against them.

I really wanted to write about ppl who would excatly come with your arguments but I didnt do it in the first place.. I waited for a reply.. you see the enemy in your case is bigger than the enemy in kashmir or east turkestan and far bigger than myanmar but no one says in your case "what should we do" or "what do you want ppl to do" and than ppl will also say I am doing fitna now! double standards are fitna! and evilness! it leads to seperation and enemiosity among ppl.. my whole case here is against double standards and the conflict in myanmar or kashmir or east turkestan or elsewhere is equal or some are worser than what palestinians face..

Mate, I'm having an hard time understanding what you're trying to across.

and you mean kashmir is not a country that is occupied and annexed? or e. turkestan a country that is annexed?
the reality is philistine is not a country.. its actually a state not really accepted by some countries as a real country.. despite kashmir the other two had existed as a country in the past..

Kashmir is disputed territory and was not an country. As for Turkestan, please educate me as I have never heard of it.

so you mean your ppl are getting raped? they have to marry jews? a jew is in your family and watching you? thyou guys arnt allowed to say bismillah or do a friday prayer? or did jews let you forcully put alcohol on ramadan in your throat? or are palestinians being mass deported? or are they decreasing in numbers because they are in camps or slaughtered? the cities such destroyed that no stones glue to each other and are in broken pieces? be real! be real and dont act as if the whole world is about you..!

God help them. You think Muslims can help them right now?

there are muslims who face what I wrote! and yet you say they dont or see it as a lesser thing!

I don't.

ppl can do something, let it be little things like you can speak and defend them, you have maybe money you can spend it for them.. there are so much different ways to give some support maybe you can make a youtube video if you have the ability, or write articles, or organise ppl or just talk to some friends! or some ppl are demonstrating somewhere you bring them something to drink.. its support.. who among us can form an army to end the unjust opressors? is it that what I asked for? No! I just talked about ppl who have double standards and about ppl who would be silent if it is about their wealth that is being touched if they begin to speak.. I may add another groub.. the ones who are silent because of racism..

I agree, ordinary people can do something, and many ordinary people, Muslims or non-Muslims, do. So what are you asking Arabs to do differently? There is no racism in Arab world, this is something you might experience in Germany but it is foreign to Arabs. We never grew up with this mindset to differentiate people based on race.

look you say what should we do.. I ask you also a question wich you never ask yourself! what could you do for your own issue? throwing stones? why not fight a real fight with guns and stop sending children to throw stones? we turks fight in the past against many countries we fought against arabs, greeks, armenians, russians, french and a big player england it was on our worst time when we fell down but we did struggle and we didnt gave up or do unnesessary stuff and thanks to the almighty he gave us power to overthrow our enemies! as for turkestan we only wish for them to live in peace and security same for others..

Why are you telling me about Turkish past? You are all over the place.

in short what I want to say is this: we muslims should leave this idiotic racism and acting as if others are better than others.. and one conflict has the same value as the other .. and hailing some ppl is not healthy you will find good ppl among all folks..

There's no racism in Muslim world. You are only projecting so called racism upon other Muslims. You aren't able to recognize what the problems in the Muslim world and have no idea how to about them. So just wait till some people who do take over and start working to make things better.

So you need to be clear and say what you want or what you think solution is. You do not come off as religious person to me and more nationalist person. And seem to insinuate Turks should rule over Middle East like the Iranians try to sell to the region. So your whole motivation is ethnically driven and you call others racist, lol. C'mon man.

Tell us what you want, you want something like EU in Muslim world or you want Islamic Caliphate in ME? Or you just want to continue your Turkish legacy? Then why bring us into everything? I have not changed my opinion ever, I favor and will continue to favor an Islamic Caliphate in the ME for Arab nations. And if you ask why I left out Turkey and Iran, simply because you guys will refuse to join it if it became a reality.

 

[Hell NO]

Hey Turks free your land from the American troops and then will talk about who is a puppet. Hey Turks lose a single martyr fighting Israel and then you can talk about Palestine. Hey Turks stop buying Israeli weapons and goods and supporting them and then you can talk about Palestine. Hey Turks make prostitution and sodomy illegal and then you can talk about leading Muslims.

The mouth of the CIA regurgitates something. CIA starts these terror groups and then CIA puppets attack people fighting terrorism...

And I find humorous that the Sisi regime is being called 'Egypt'. Egypt deserves this dictator of theirs.

These comments from the Sisi regime are literally out of the mouth of Washington, but they are too dumb to speak. So they have these surrogates.

Cool story was that revealed to you in an out of body experience.

 

[zectech]

Hey Turks free your land from the American troops and then will talk about who is a puppet. Hey Turks lose a single martyr fighting Israel and then you can talk about Palestine. Hey Turks stop buying Israeli weapons and goods and supporting them and then you can talk about Palestine. Hey Turks make prostitution and sodomy illegal and then you can talk about leading Muslims.

Sadly Egypt has joined the zionists in the blockade of Gaza.

 

[Hell NO]

Sadly Egypt has joined the zionists in the blockade of Gaza.

Not true Egypt although fighting terrorism in Sinai (which limits the supply's to Sinai as a whole) and although Egypt doesn't recognise hamas government and should only deal with Palestine officials on borders not hamas. Egypt allows the crossing of people throw the rafah crossing and the crossing of goods throw another crossing.