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Egypt calls Erdogan statements ‘ironic,’ accuses Turkey of sponsoring terrorism

They really should focus on themselves instead of searching for enemies.

What? So they should intern thousands of ppl like your country does...gr8 stuff

It's abundantly clear that Turkey is trying to be the de facto leader of Muslim countries. It's trying to reestablish its role during the Ottoman Empire. This is why the Arab world views Turkey with great suspicion. What will Pakistan do? Side with brotherly nation Turkey or side with the Saudis and other Arab countries. It has to walk a tight line.

I wouldn’t trust these GCC Arabs as far i can throw them...I value our relationship with Turkey must more. Our bond with these GCC Arabs is just economic - that’s it - always has and always will be
 
Muh Ottoman Empire!!! why do have so called Muslim Arabs fearing a Muslim Empire??

Its simple because they are so high up their heads with their racism and superiority they cant accept a Non arab Muslim as a leader. It hurts their pride.
 
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Muh Ottoman Empire!!! why do have so called Muslim Arabs fearing a Muslim Empire??

Its simple because they are so high up their heads with their racism and superiority it they cant accept a Non arab Muslim as a leader. It hurts their pride.

could be true.. thats why I have some discussions about that while they cant accept this and state me out as a hater.. or blind or whatever shaitan..
 
could be true.. thats why I have some discussions about that while they cant accept this and state me out as a hater.. or blind or whatever shaitan..

We are in no business to revive a dead empire.

The reason this whole Muh Ottoman Empire coming back because Turkey is a regional power and has stamped its place in the Middle East.

Not to mention Turkey reaching out to the Islamic World and the Turkic World. Hence why you have ignorant people believing the Ottoman Empire is coming back.

Its nothing more than fear mongering. Turkey has so many problems along with burdens why should it burden itself more by being an empire??

Times have changed. Looking back at the past is not going to make us move forward. I understand Non Muslims are not fans of the Ottoman Empire but I dont get why some Muslims feel threatened by it.
 
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Erdogan says something About Izrael and the voice comes from SA and Egypt.. such an interesting world..

Actually, he talked about Saudi Arabia and Egypt too. Don't forget you have economic trade with Israel

Turkey, Israel trade turnover up by more than $130M

https://www.azernews.az/region/150481.html
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Egypt does too. Saudi Arabia doesn't.
 
Actually, he talked about Saudi Arabia and Egypt too. Don't forget you have economic trade with Israel

Turkey, Israel trade turnover up by more than $130M

https://www.azernews.az/region/150481.html
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Egypt does too. Saudi Arabia doesn't.
so? Pakistan has problem with India and they have economic relationship...
Turkey needs to have a relation with Israel to show that nobody is against jews people. They have no reason to arm them up with nukes and others..
If Turkey can sell them something(which consumed by 2 million Russian speaking people who are there mostly for economic reasons and i even know some), recieve tourists to show them the real muslim attitute to change their mind, why Turkey shouldnt do that..
I am sure some gulf arabs area not smart enough to ever think these sides of it..
 
There is no such things as Muslims fighting against each other. It's just human beings fighting against each other like it has been the case since the beginning of times. Human beings have always been greedy, for money and power. As long as we inhabit earth it will be the case. Muslim or not doesn't matter and makes no difference. So you shouldn't look at it from a religious perspective. These leaders and actors just use religion to further their interests, justify their actions as legitimate, gain more power & influence, since they know people in the region are easily swayed by religion. Only naive and emotional people fall for that cheap trick. Lol

Wise words.

Muh Ottoman Empire!!! why do have so called Muslim Arabs fearing a Muslim Empire??

Its simple because they are so high up their heads with their racism and superiority they cant accept a Non arab Muslim as a leader. It hurts their pride.

And they know they are not capable or competent either. That hurts their pride even more.:lol:
 
You are implying Egypt and Saudi Arabia support Israel. One form of support/recognition is engaging in trade with a country. So if you do it why are you bashing Egypt exclusively? Ironically, Saudi Arabia is only one out of three without economic ties with Israel.
there is huge difference...
one is showing that they are against them and become their dogs behind the door, another doesnt hide anything, let its free economy go on but politically shows middle finger.. i am not sure if you really understood or can really see the difference
 
Actually, he talked about Saudi Arabia and Egypt too. Don't forget you have economic trade with Israel

Turkey, Israel trade turnover up by more than $130M

https://www.azernews.az/region/150481.html
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Egypt does too. Saudi Arabia doesn't.

To be fair , I don't understand why SOME Turks here sometimes try to claim the moral high ground in regards to Israel and putting down KSA, Egypt and other Arab states of being accomplices with Israel. To my knowledge Turkey was one of the first Muslim countries in the world to recognise Israel and fully have diplomatic, economic and even military (they cooperated in several military fields) relations with Israel. Funny enough KSA has none with Israel, in fact they don't even recognise Israel . The funniest thing is poor countries like Pakistan who has nothing to do with Israel or even the middle East(nowhere close to the region and isn't even considered during geopolitical events there )have no relations with Israel whatsoever simply due to 'muslim solidarity' with other Arab states and Turkey(never mind that many of these countries have relations with Israel of some sort). It's quite strange and funny to see such a paradox.
Egypt has fought terrible wars with Israel and suffered terrible casualties and almost even lost large part of it's territory (Sinai, if not for US diplomacy and mediation Israel would have annex that like they did with unrepentant Syria and it's former Golan heights). So I don't see why some members here are trying to put Egypt and other Arab countries down for not fighting Israel enough . To my knowledge the Islamic Republic of Iran and modern Turkey have never attacked Israel since they were founded,and yet nobody here even questions them on that. So why pick on the Arabs all the time? Seems they have become easy targets here due to their wealth and riches(it's not a sin to be rich. Lol). We should also try and be fair in our analysis. Too much bias on this site. :hitwall:
 
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To be fair , I don't understand why SOME Turks here sometimes try to claim the moral high ground in regards to Israel and putting down KSA, Egypt and other Arab states of being accomplices with Israel. To my knowledge Turkey was one of the first Muslim countries in the world to recognise Israel and fully have diplomatic, economic and even military (they cooperated in several military fields) relations with Israel. Funny enough KSA has none with Israel, in fact they don't even recognise Israel . The funniest thing is poor countries like Pakistan who has nothing to do with Israel or even the middle East(nowhere close to the region and isn't even considered during geopolitical events there )have no relations with Israel whatsoever simply due to 'muslim solidarity' with other Arab states and Turkey(never mind that many of these countries have relations with Israel of some sort). It's quite strange and funny to see such a paradox.

The basic difference between animals and human beings is the intelligence; therefore, even in war conditions, the foes leave the door ajar a little bit unlike the animals leaving nothing but death in the end.

Turkey has relation with other countries, so that the intelligence makes sense as human beings, now you criticies Turk Republic for not behaving like those.

So , Where is your intelligence in this claim of yours to take you serious?

Egypt has fought terrible wars with Israel and suffered terrible casualties and almost even lost large part of it's territory (Sinai, if not for US diplomacy and mediation Israel would have annex that like they did with unrepentant Syria and it's former Golan heights). So I don't see why some members here are trying to put Egypt and other Arab countries down for not fighting Israel enough . To my knowledge the Islamic Republic of Iran and modern Turkey have never attacked Israel since they were founded,and yet nobody here even questions them on that. So why pick on the Arabs all the time? Seems they have become easy targets here due to their wealth and riches(it's not a sin to be rich. Lol). We should also try and be fair in our analysis. Too much bias on this site. :hitwall:

You should read some history how those lands were transformed into today's borders; no responsibility on Turks for today.

As long as The ruling party grants the secure travel to the holly places in the land, no problem for Turks.
 
The basic difference between animals and human beings is the intelligence; therefore, even in war conditions, the foes leave the door ajar a little bit unlike the animals leaving nothing but death in the end.

Turkey has relation with other countries, so that the intelligence makes sense as human beings, now you criticies Turk Republic for not behaving like those.

So , Where is your intelligence in this claim of yours to take you serious?
Exactly. I have the same point of view as you. I was taking aim at many members here who believe no decent Muslim country to have any relations with Israel. I have seen that countless times on here. else they claim that country is an Israeli puppet. So i was addressing those remarks not making them myself.
 
Exactly. I have the same point of view as you. I was taking aim at many members here who believe no decent Muslim country to have any relations with Israel. I have seen that countless times on here. else they claim that country is an Israeli puppet. So i was addressing those remarks not making them myself.

It is not just a logical or rhetorical perspective; it has also historical/religious/moral background as referred in my previous post.

Therefore, Turks do justifiedly not care the self-made-up ground point that those build on the background with the same west that now does the same (betray) them to create Isreal and judge others by it while legitimazing each other over each other(Wahabis, Mullahs, Zionists the triangle of curse on the Islam and world peace along with their oil-hunger masters); nor those third parties taking it serious.
 
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we can say double standards..
when it comes to the issue of palestine ppl will call out others for traitors, satans, religious ignorant, hater or what ever they have in mind.. for them it is an obligation.. but they have double standards when it comes to soemthing else.. as if some ppl are above the others..

like in kashmir than you will see their twisted mind.. or myanmar or east turkestan.. in some cases its much much much worser than in israel and than this ppl again : they wont say satan again.. the religious obligation will not be in their mind and ppl will begin to deny any occurance of worse things happening in other countries..
as for turkey we stand on pakistani side while we also have ties to india, we stand on philistine side while we also have ties to israel if we would be world leader in everything than the situation could be different.. we cant starve india to death if they do not obey us.. we are not the USA.. but for short when it comes in terms to israel ppl act if this is something out of the space.. they will begin to defend and find cases and to bring up anything against it.. but they will never ever do the same for others even if the others are really badly slaughtered or opressed even if they cant practice their religion no in this case having relations with the opressor is ok..

and when it comes to the really big one like US or other big ones.. wich from some are really responsible for many many many muslims death they wont do the same like against israel why? because being against israel is not hurting them: its not hurting their house, their car, their mobile phone, their motorcycle and so on..their wealth is not touched

therefore you can easily have double standards and act like things dont happen and say nothing against worser situations.. this is real hypocrisy..

also arabs hold huge amounts of petrol they could have easy starve all countries who support israel but this didnt happen and why?
 

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