Egypt | Army Ousts Mursi govt, violence erupts | News & Discussions

[hussain0216]

Man its not an egpytian issue

The entire Muslim world has dirt poor leadership without any foresight, their won't be change in the Muslim world until we get rid of these regimes who serve only themselves

It's like a domino affect get rid of one set of haramiis and the others will fall

This is why the Saudi and other monarch and dictators hate this change and wanted the coup so they can keep the status quo

No change, no domino effect means the same dirt poor leadership of the Muslim world for decades


It's why it's essential that all Muslims who want change and for the Muslim world to rise will support the Muslim brotherhood

Regardless of ideology to send a clear message to all the useless autocrats in the Muslim world

Man its not an egpytian issue

The entire Muslim world has dirt poor leadership without any foresight, their won't be change in the Muslim world until we get rid of these regimes who serve only themselves

It's like a domino affect get rid of one set of haramiis and the others will fall

This is why the Saudi and other monarch and dictators hate this change and wanted the coup so they can keep the status quo

No change, no domino effect means the same dirt poor leadership of the Muslim world for decades


It's why it's essential that all Muslims who want change and for the Muslim world to rise will support the Muslim brotherhood

Regardless of ideology to send a clear message to all the useless autocrats in the Muslim world

Man its not an egpytian issue

The entire Muslim world has dirt poor leadership without any foresight, their won't be change in the Muslim world until we get rid of these regimes who serve only themselves

It's like a domino affect get rid of one set of haramiis and the others will fall

This is why the Saudi and other monarch and dictators hate this change and wanted the coup so they can keep the status quo

No change, no domino effect means the same dirt poor leadership of the Muslim world for decades


It's why it's essential that all Muslims who want change and for the Muslim world to rise will support the Muslim brotherhood

Regardless of ideology to send a clear message to all the useless autocrats in the Muslim world

Man its not an egpytian issue

The entire Muslim world has dirt poor leadership without any foresight, their won't be change in the Muslim world until we get rid of these regimes who serve only themselves

It's like a domino affect get rid of one set of haramiis and the others will fall

This is why the Saudi and other monarch and dictators hate this change and wanted the coup so they can keep the status quo

No change, no domino effect means the same dirt poor leadership of the Muslim world for decades


It's why it's essential that all Muslims who want change and for the Muslim world to rise will support the Muslim brotherhood

Regardless of ideology to send a clear message to all the useless autocrats in the Muslim world

 

[Algeria]

It has been confirmed that the numbers of June 30 protests against Mursi was 1.5 million max in Cairo, so nationally the number can't be more than 4 million. The 30 million number was 100% fabricated according to every specialist.
Many reports confirmed this:
[video]youtube.com/watch?v=iEfsd-D8c9Q[/video]
[video]youtube.com/watch?v=J5IadhVPvMs[/video]
If an election is held and Mursi allowed to run(which he will) he will win by a landslide.
Thanks to Sisi for making Mursi the Mandilla of Arabs!

 

[Frogman]

It has been confirmed that the numbers of June 30 protests against Mursi was 1.5 million max in Cairo, so nationally the number can't be more than 4 million. The 30 million number was 100% fabricated according to every specialist.
Many reports confirmed this:
[video]youtube.com/watch?v=iEfsd-D8c9Q[/video]
[video]youtube.com/watch?v=J5IadhVPvMs[/video]
If an election is held and Mursi allowed to run(which he will) he will win by a landslide.
Thanks to Sisi for making Mursi the Mandilla of Arabs!

So why did Aljazeera report 2 million protesters on the 25th of January 2011 in Tahrir sq. only. Why did they not show the maximum numbers Alnahda and Rab3a can take?

Considering Rab3a is a traffic junction and not a square it may be quite obvious who had the bigger crowds. If Morsi had the majority support he wouldn't be in the position he was put.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Aljazeera has lost allot of it's credibility over the last two years. As for me, I stopped watching it.

 

[Algeria]

If Morsi had the majority support he wouldn't be in the position he was put.

Then the solution is simple. Release him and hold presidential elections as soon as possible. Otherwise its a coup against the will of Egyptian people NOT democracy.
Also, you have to lift the ban on pro Mursi media.

 

[Frogman]

Then the solution is simple. Release him and hold presidential elections as soon as possible.

A referendum on presidential elections was touted many times before the coup. The presidency refused to have a referendum and threatened protesters publicly. The time for a referendum on Morsi staying or renewed presidential elections finished on the 3rd of July. He is also under investigation for crimes that predated his presidency and therefore cannot legally return to his position.

Otherwise its a coup against the will of Egyptian people NOT democracy.

Morsi became illegitimate when he gave himself all legislative and judicial powers in the nation while at the same time ensuring he couldn't be prosecuted for the illegal constitutional decree by any state institution. No democratic nation would overlook this simply because said leader was elected.

Also, you have to lift the ban on pro Mursi media.

Media which incited hatred and violence must remain closed.

 

[Solomon2]

KSA aid package was announced nearly a year and something ago, I hardly think that Al-Sisi is a man who could be bribed, he's a man of honor.

Saudis are very good at bribery, even if that's not what it's called. People accept Saudi gifts before anything is asked of them with the expectation they will receive more if they continue to please Saudis. That's bribery enough, even if it isn't the kind of bribery that's illegal everywhere.

Or did you mean that as a "man of honor" he can thus be relied on to stay bribed?

 

[Algeria]

A referendum on presidential elections was touted many times before the coup. The presidency refused to have a referendum and threatened protesters publicly. The time for a referendum on Morsi staying or renewed presidential elections finished on the 3rd of July. He is also under investigation for crimes that predated his presidency and therefore cannot legally return to his position.



Morsi became illegitimate when he gave himself all legislative and judicial powers in the nation while at the same time ensuring he couldn't be prosecuted for the illegal constitutional decree by any state institution. No democratic nation would overlook this simply because said leader was elected.



Media which incited hatred and violence must remain closed.

I thought you were confident the majority are against him? that way the crisis ends and no more Egyptian blood spilled no matter who wins. I simply am amazed how Egyptian liberal youth support the bloody crackdown on the majority of population!
9 of the new government ministers are Mubarak regime guys! You know that security apparatus will not stop with the brotherhood but they will crush any kind of decent in the name of fighting terrorism like it was for the last 30 years! Wake Up!!

 

[TheThreePashas]

If the army were so confident they were in the right, Morsi would be a free man, free to run in the next election.

Instead they have him locked up and facing trial for the stupidest things. The Egyptian Army is corrupt as hell. They might as well bring Mubarek back, I mean, he was their guy after all right?

Oh wait, the Army supports the revolution!! Lol. What a joke. Morsi was the revolution you goons.


The list of possible, sane allies in the region for Turkey just dropped down 1.

-I can't stop editing this post because the topic angers me so much. Anti-Morsi Egyptians are behaving so immaturely right now. By their logic, it would be good if Egypt was invaded just so Morsi left. So short sighted. So backwards.

 

[Solomon2]

The entire Muslim world has dirt poor leadership without any foresight, their won't be change in the Muslim world until we get rid of these regimes who serve only themselves -

Yep, if anything goes wrong they blame Zionists like me and jail their political opponents, accusing them of being my servants! I am so powerful, I should have called myself Lord Voldemort, right?

The way around this, of course, is to openly and boldly be pro-Zionist, thus depriving the despots of the ammunition that you are secretly in league with the Jews. Pro-Zionism has other advantages, like the assertion of truth, civil, and national rights. You might end up in jail like Sharansky but he did win out in the end.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

I will take it as a compliment

Saudis are very good at bribery, even if that's not what it's called. People accept Saudi gifts before anything is asked of them with the expectation they will receive more if they continue to please Saudis. That's bribery enough, even if it isn't the kind of bribery that's illegal everywhere.

Or did you mean that as a "man of honor" he can thus be relied on to stay bribed?

Now let's be serious. Personally, I dealt with the Egyptian military even though my experience was limited, but I gained an insight into their mindsets. When it comes to Egypt, I could have seen their faces turning into black and blue.

Unless you were relying on Foxnews when they reported that " We spoke to the Pentagon, and they told us the Saudis were very happy about the overthrow of Morsi "

But, Maybe, Foxnews didn't know that the Saudi Ambassdor wasn't in DC during the day Morsi was ousted. He's the only person who speaks to them on such sensative issues like this.

You may check out Egypt's WiKileaks files to see how nasty did the Generals act out when Bush wanted them to do ..... and .....

 

[Algeria]

Instead they have him locked up and facing trial for the stupidest things.

They charged him with leaking information to Hamas!! It is a calculated message to Israel and USA, and so Kerry 2 days ago complemented the army for moving Egypt to democracy!
If they win any future elections, the brotherhood should remove the deep state as a first priority.

 

[Frogman]

I thought you were confident the majority are against him?

I am. If the MB were truly committed to building a democratic process they would participate in the transitional period and field a candidate in the upcoming presidential elections (after constitutional amendments and parliamentary elections) whether that candidate is Morsi or someone else depends on whether he is found guilty of criminal charges.

that way the crisis ends and no more Egyptian blood spilled no matter who wins.

Morsi had the power to do so but didn't. His party is also exasperating things by seeking confrontation at every possible opportunity.

I simply am amazed how Egyptian liberal youth support the bloody crackdown on the majority of population!

Islamist's are a sect and are not the majority. One of the reasons Morsi won was because he got the revolutionary vote due to who he was running against. Liberal youth are not in favour in any bloody crackdown nor do they call for such actions. The MB and its affiliates arent innocent. The military and the security forces arent innocent either.

9 of the new government ministers are Mubarak regime guys!

Morsi's prime minister was from the former regime as were some of the other ministers.........

You know that security apparatus will not stop with the brotherhood but they will crush any kind of decent in the name of fighting terrorism like it was for the last 30 years! Wake Up!!

So pretty much what the MB were going to do but without using religion as an excuse for such action.

 

[TheThreePashas]

Yep, if anything goes wrong they blame Zionists like me and jail their political opponents, accusing them of being my servants! I am so powerful, I should have called myself Lord Voldemort, right?

The way around this, of course, is to openly and boldly be pro-Zionist, thus depriving the despots of the ammunition that you are secretly in league with the Jews. Pro-Zionism has other advantages, like the assertion of truth, civil, and national rights. You might end up in jail like Sharansky but he did win out in the end.

Haha, hey it used to work for Turkey. Being buds with Israel has its perks no doubt.

I do agree with your assessment of blaming Jews. Arabs have themselves to blame for Israel ever becoming this strong in the first place. The Muslim world should stop blaming Israel for everything, because when it all comes down to it, they always quiet down and don't say anything to Israel's face.

 

[Frogman]

They charged him with leaking information to Hamas!! It is a calculated message to Israel and USA, and so Kerry 2 days ago complemented the army for moving Egypt to democracy!
If they win any future elections, the brotherhood should remove the deep state as a first priority.

Wrong, he is being charged with the premeditated murder of conscripts, officers and inmates while escaping Wady Alnatroon prison in cooperation with Hamas (who had multiple prisoners there).