ECP’s order to delay Punjab polls unconstitutional, SC rules

[Vortex]

If decisions come against political parties then SC and GHQ are traitors but if they come in their favour then they are patriotic.

It depends on where the interests of the country are !

« beggars can’t be choosers » or « absolutely not »

 

[Clutch]

Exactly, China and Pakistan settled their border in 1963.

China may fight to get back Ladakh (which they call “Little Tibet”) and Arunachal Pradesh (Which they call “South Tibet”) as the Chinese perceive these were parts of the Qing Empire as well as the desire to end any remaining regions of Tibetan influence outside of their control.

But we are getting diverted off topic by this Indian troll. Today is a good day for the rule of law, the constitution, and a free judiciary as exercised by the Supreme Court.


The VoNC was triggered by buying off disloyal PTI MNAs. IK will have to be very careful whom he allows to run for the seats for the upcoming elections. Loyalty and holding firm to the party principles as well as competence are the three most vital elements that must be present in any candidate allowed to run under the party banner.

The PTI officials that win in this upcoming election will be setting precedent in governance and can’t be allowed to be incompetent. If they are loyal and principled but not as competent as they need to be, they will need a team of advisors and ombudsmen to be as laser focused on the issues as well as fixing the economic issues in their constituencies, otherwise they will lose those seats in the 2028 elections and the reforms PTI hopes to enact could be reversed.

Also, PTI will need a think tank to watch out for these methods like the VoNC, considering the weaknesses in our democracy, so that the nation won’t be put into a crisis like this again, and precious time is not wasted.

Great points. One of the positive outcomes from this whole regime change, terrorism, and oppression against PTI has done is it has cleansed the party of traitors and opportunists. Only the dedicated and patriotic members remained standing with PTI through hell. Only those members who have proven their worth should be given tickets.

 

[TheDarkKnight]

They may have a high opinion of themselves, but the whole world saw them for the idiots they always have been. Clearly.

What are diplomatic and intl implications for a govt that is not following SC orders, that too regarding a very fundamental right - right to elect govt via elections as per constitution. I am curious what those implications might be; IMF? Other legal issues?

 

[VCheng]

What are diplomatic and intl implications for a govt that is not following SC orders, that too regarding a very fundamental right - right to elect govt via elections as per constitution. I am curious what those implications might be; IMF? Other legal issues?

It will make them even more of a pariah than they already are, with similar effects as we are seeing already. Everybody knows they are just puppets of the real masters, just like the previous setups. Business as usual.

 

[villageidiot]

SC must show a bit of precision and just exercise enough authority to hold elections - don’t give them shahadat.

They'll dive head first into shahadat. But, shahadat won't help them as long as elections are held in a relatively free manner, which should be the biggest concern.

the nation is not stupid, they know well.

Exactly. All that's needed is to be watchful about how elections are conducted. Mohsin Naqvi has said he will comply with the SC order, which is strange. He would have resigned, imo if he really had to conduct fair elections.

 

[PakSword]

It will make them even more of a pariah than they already are, with similar effects as we are seeing already. Everybody knows they are just puppets of the real masters, just like the previous setups. Business as usual.

Judges might be puppets but the Constitution is quite clear on the issue of holding elections.

 

[VCheng]

Judges might be puppets but the Constitution is quite clear on the issue of holding elections.

I was referring to PDM, and my comments about what the SC said are already here:

This is utterly stupid. The Supreme Court is the ultimate arbiter of law, and there is simply no option to not abide by its decisions. This is the only court whose verdicts cannot be appealed to any other court.

 

[SD 10]

They may have a high opinion of themselves, but the whole world saw them for the idiots they always have been. Clearly.

I STILL REMEMBER countless tv anchors telling them to go to general elections than and that it would be suicide , a lot of us saw that too but they still went with it despite knowing the result and are now acting surprised!!!

 

[PakFactor]

They may have a high opinion of themselves, but the whole world saw them for the idiots they always have been. Clearly.

Idiot is an understatement to describe PDM.

 

[VCheng]

I STILL REMEMBER countless tv anchors telling them to go to general elections than and that it would be suicide , a lot of us saw that too but they still went with it despite knowing the result and are now acting surprised!!!

Delaying elections will not achieve anything useful for them. It is not like they can go into polls with a stellar economic record, now, or a few months later.

Idiot is an understatement to describe PDM.

I agree. But it is Ramadan.

 

[PakAlp]

Shabaz Sharif suddenly wants justice for Zulfikar Ali Bhutto. When it suits the leadership only then they will take action.

 

[SD 10]

Delaying elections will not achieve anything useful for them. It is not like they can go into polls with a stellar economic record, now, or a few months later.

Its more like a zid now from nawaz and mariam.... results are not gonna be different now or oct. But than again they have never been in a position like this..with ppp they knew its game as usual.... with Khan they dont know if he would play the game or go all out against them!

 

[VCheng]

Its more like a zid now from nawaz and mariam.... results are not gonna be different now or oct. But than again they have never been in a position like this..with ppp they knew its game as usual.... with Khan they dont know if he would play the game or go all out against them!

It will be interesting to see how the runup to the next elections unfolds, and the results. For sure.

 

[Olympus81]

Well, I wasn't expect that much bold decision by courts, bigger challenge now is getting it implemented.

If courts are able to get the decision implemented and PTI is able to secure the number of seats which surveys project then it should immediately start campaign in Sindh and Baluchistan to ensure majority provincial govts. in these provinces as well and at-least 2/3 majority in National Assembly so that it can do necessary amendments in constitution. First amendment should be to reduce the powers of COAS and bringing check and balances, and extracting 111 brigade from Army and making it independent headed by 4 star general (equal to COAS in rank) responsible for security of Prime Minister and President.

The Chief Grade 22 Chaprasi should be saluting the Defense secretary and the only time he would have a glimpse of the PM is maybe on 23 March.

Another 4 star General Grade 22 Chaprasi should be saluting the Interior Minister.

111th brigade should be transfered to Tharparkar. They can launch a DHA scheme there in partnership with Zardari.

The security of the PM should rest with special units of the police.

 

[PakAlp]

PDM not accepting the supreme court decision.