Drinking liqour is not Haram - Federal Shariat Court

[VCheng]

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if you don't want to believe it's your problem, ............[/B]

Thank you. Please let me take care of my problems, and you take care of your problems. Just don't try to enforce your beliefs and interpretations on others.

Then everything is fine.

 

[VCheng]

surah baqarah .. ayah 219.. clearly defines how the harmful effects of Alcohol outweigh its benefits.
If one was to look at the Quran alone.. you would start mirroring some extreme wahabi elements.

The practical implementation of the Quran is the sunnah of the prophet.
And the way we know of the Sunnah of the prophet is through his hadiath.. and he in his life forbade alcohol.
step by step.. but he did.. that too has lessons for those intending to convert non-muslims..
Do not enforce everything on them at once, bring them into the fold one step at a time.

Fair enough, but the fact remains that the Quran itself does NOT declare alcohol haram.

 

[Xeric]

surah baqarah .. ayah 219.. clearly defines how the harmful effects of Alcohol outweigh its benefits.
If one was to look at the Quran alone.. you would start mirroring some extreme wahabi elements.

The practical implementation of the Quran is the sunnah of the prophet.
And the way we know of the Sunnah of the prophet is through his hadiath.. and he in his life forbade alcohol.
step by step.. but he did.. that too has lessons for those intending to convert non-muslims..
Do not enforce everything on them at once, bring them into the fold one step at a time.

After this post, the mongers should die!

 

[VCheng]

After this post, the mongers should die!

Fortunately, life and death are in Allah's hands!

 

[AAtish]

Agreed about intoxicants, but there is a huge difference between sipping a drink and being drunk. The Quran in its infinite wisdom rightly recognizes that aspect, and this has also been reaffirmed by the FSC.

Do you mean to to say that the FSC did not look at similar arguments carefully before rendering its verdict? If so, please challenge it to rectify the "error".

Any intoxicant is haram in even small quantity, just to protect unwilling overuse, if you start drinking e.g., with the intention of NOT losing your conscience and then a little 'saroor' makes you keep going until you are fully 'out of your senses'.. then you fall in the category of not knowing the difference between 'naiki' and 'badi'..

So, Intoxicants are not allowed, even in minute quantity, it is as simple as that..

Just my two cents..

 

[VCheng]

....................So, Intoxicants are not allowed, even in minute quantity, it is as simple as that..

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No, it is as simple as reading the Quran in this particular case.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

The FSC took all that detail into account, so the verdict is important in that regard.

The Day of Judgment will take ALL of life into account, rather than just alcohol, so such fear-mongering is not need, and is counter-productive.

So you want to answer one question less or one question more ?

 

[VCheng]

So you want to answer one question less or one question more ?

The Day of Judgement is between me and my Allah, so why don't you let me worry about it? Many thanks for your concern about my well-being, but no thanks!

 

[AAtish]

Fair enough, but the fact remains that the Quran itself does NOT declare alcohol haram.

Fair enough.. It is not 'by name' in Qur'an.. and no where Qur'an says that 'alcohol is haram' or 'sharab is haram' as people claim...

Qur'an is a religious book and covers all aspects.. so it says about Khumr.. everything that 'intoxicates'..

 

[VCheng]

Fair enough.. It is not 'by name' in Qur'an.. and no where Qur'an says that 'alcohol is haram' or 'sharab is haram' as people claim...

Qur'an is a religious book and covers all aspects.. so it says about Khumr.. everything that 'intoxicates'..

And alcohol, used in moderation, is NOT an intoxicant.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Hazrat Mohammad PBUH never drank... so how is it no haram?


@VCheng....... dude u can drink if u want... who cares abt legal n illegal........... bootleggers r minting lots of $$ anyways!

 

[Dil Pakistan]

The Day of Judgement is between me and my Allah, so why don't you let me worry about it? Many thanks for your concern about my well-being, but no thanks!

I am not concerned about you at all. I only tried to clarify your confused arguement for you. Try and read your post day of judgement covering whole life and not one issue and then read my reply. It will become clear for you what i wrote.

 

[VCheng]

Hazrat Mohammad PBUH never drank... so how is it no haram?

Oh my God! He never drove a car or travel by airplane! Did he smoke cigarettes may be? Let's break all the televisions and computers too! After all, Muhammad PBUH did not use them either.

So what is your point?

@VCheng....... dude u can drink if u want... who cares abt legal n illegal........... bootleggers r minting lots of $$ anyways!

Actually, I don't drink or smoke or use any intoxicants at all, it may surprise you to know that.

To each his own, I say.

 

[VCheng]

I am not concerned about you at all. I only tried to clarify your confused arguement for you. Try and read your post day of judgement covering whole life and not one issue and then read my reply. It will become clear for you what i wrote.

Thank you. But I am quite clear in my thought processes.

And please leave my Day of Judgement between ME and Allah, as your Day is no concern of mine either!

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Oh my God! He never drove a car or travel by airplane! Did he smoke cigarettes may be? Let's break all the televisions and computers too! After all, Muhammad PBUH did not use them either.



And the plans n stuff were not present in tht time but alcohol was.
So what is your point?

The point is tht alcohol intoxicates n is the mother of many societ ills.............. all muslim clerics have declared it haram.................................Hence i dnt think how it cant be not haram..............

Actually, I don't drink or smoke or use any intoxicants at all, it may surprise you to know that.

To each his own, I say.

Yes u advocate its legality? lol