Dozens arrested at Sweden riots sparked by planned Quran burnings

[Dalit]

Best way to deal with these people is to ignore them.
The only reason they do what they do is because they get a reaction.
If we don't react then the whole thing becomes pointless.

Sure. It is worth pointing out their actions through.

 

[Apollon]

You are clueless - you haven't dealt with these sorts of immigrants.

Good luck pushing them out on legit demands.

They are not going to back down by "knowing their place in society". This is not 1922, it is 2022.

White supremacists waxing nostalgic about that racist sentiment can shove it where the sun don't shine.

White supremacists don't control the EU - sane people do. That Rasmus guy can go pound sand all he wants.

I think you dont understand how things work here. In Greece migrants are drowned in the sea and in poland simply shot in the forest. Media pushed out and erased.

This is not about "white supremacists".

In 2022 the EU high court decided that its ok to push back migrants. Times have changed buddy.

As i said, keep your head down, know your place as a guest.

 

[Longhorn]

Sure. It is worth pointing out their actions through.

No. That is providing oxygen.
Ignore them.
Let them do what they want and ignore them as if they didn't exist or buy a copy of the Quran for them and ask them to burn that as well.
Either way their whole enterprise becomes redundant.
That's the best way to deal with these people.

 

[Cheepek]

Why do Hindutvadis use that phrase often - "Law of the land" ? BTW I wonder about the reaction of Hindutvadis if the Dalits and the Shudras in India burn the Manusmriti public across India.

Manusmriti is burnt in India all the time, you live under a rock?

 

[jamahir]

Manusmriti is burnt in India all the time, you live under a rock?

"All the time" was last when ?

 

[Cheepek]

"All the time" was last when ?

Yesterday I burnt Manusmriti. Now for the sake of equality, burn Quran and tell us about it.

 

[jamahir]

Yesterday I burnt Manusmriti. Now for the sake of equality, burn Quran and tell us about it.

1. Buy a copy of Manusmriti again and burn it publicly and record its photos and vids and post them on PDF.

2. Why should I burn the Quran ? The Manusmriti is an anti-human book whereas the Quran is a book describing how to achieve a spiritually, politically and socio-economicaly progressive and harmonious society to an extent possible 1400 years ago. For example I quote from my thread from 2015 whose OP is by an Indian Christian woman who when she married an Indian Muslim she married under Islamic marriage law ( from the Quran ) because that better secured her socio-economic future in case of divorce ( yes, the Quran gives the right of divorce to the female too and before that having the very concept of divorce ) :

One wonders why a reference to the Islamic law was not made either by the minister or other experts. Married Muslim women, we find, are often on a higher and more secure footing than their counterparts from other religions. In fact, as a Christian marrying a Muslim, I chose to marry under the Muslim personal law, even over the seemingly modern Special Marriage Act, 1954, to better secure my economic rights. My mehr was a house in my name and my nikahnama includes necessary clauses to safeguard my and my children’s rights. My husband’s family members were witness to this document, which is registered and enforceable by law.

When we examine marriage laws in their historic context, it is interesting to note that the universally accepted notion that marriages are contractual rather than sacramental originates in Muslim law, which was accepted by the French law only in the 1800s and incorporated into the English law in the 1850s and became part of codified Hindu law as late as 1955. Today it appears to be the most practical way of dealing with the institution of marriage. Treating marriage as a sacrament which binds the parties for life has resulted in some of the most discriminatory practices against women such as sati and denial of right to divorce and remarriage, even in the most adverse conditions.

The cornerstone of a Muslim marriage is consent, ejab-o-qubul (proposal and acceptance) and requires the bride to accept the marriage proposal on her own free will. This freedom to consent (or refuse), which was given to Muslim women 1,400 years ago, is still not available under Hindu law since sacramental rituals such as saptapadi and kanya dan (seven steps round the nuptial fire and gifting of the bride to the groom) still form essential ceremonies of a Hindu marriage. Even after the codification of Hindu law, the notion of consent is not built into the marriage ceremonies.

The contract of marriage (nikahnama) allows for negotiated terms and conditions, it can also include the right to a delegated divorce (talaq-e-tafweez) where the woman is delegated the right to divorce her husband if any of the negotiated terms and conditions are violated.

Mehr is another unique concept of Muslim law meant to safeguard the financial future of the wife. It is an obligation, not a choice, and can be in the form of cash, valuables or securities. While there is no ceiling, a minimum amount to provide her security after marriage must be stipulated. This is a more beneficial concept than streedhan which is given by choice and usually by the natal family. In addition to Mehr, at the time of divorce, a Muslim woman has the right to fair and reasonable settlement, and this is statutorily recognised under the Muslim Women (Protection of Rights on Divorce) Act, 1986 as per the 2001 ruling of the Supreme Court in the Daniel Latifi case.

It is also important to address polygamy and triple talaq, two aspects of Muslim law which are generally used to discredit the community and argue in favour of a uniform civil code. While sharia law permits a man to have four wives (before 1956 Hindu law permitted unrestrained polygamy), it mandates equal treatment of all wives. If a man is not able to meet these conditions, he is not permitted to marry more than one woman. (Quran 4:3; Yusuf Ali’s translation)

On the other hand, though codification introduced monogamy for Hindus, the ground reality has not changed and Hindu men continue to be bigamous or polygamous. The most disturbing aspect is that while men in bigamous/adulterous relationships are allowed to go scot-free, it is the women who are made to pay the price. Women in invalid relationships with Hindu men are denied maintenance and protection and are referred to as “mistresses” and “concubines”, concepts specific to the uncodified Hindu law. Any attempt to codify Muslim law to bring in legal monogamy should not end up subjecting Muslim women to a plight similar to that of a Hindu second wife. This is an important concern which needs to be taken into account while reforming the Muslim law.

And lastly, the much maligned triple talaq or talaq-ul-biddat, which the Prophet himself considered as the most inappropriate form of divorce. Fortunately, in 2002, in Shamim Ara vs State of Uttar Pradesh & others, the Supreme Court laid down strict Quranic injunctions which must be followed at the time of pronouncing talaq, hence now fraudulent practices adopted by errant husbands (including email and SMS talaq) can no longer constitute valid talaq. Yet, after a decade and a half, very few know challenge the validity of such divorces in court as they are unaware about this ruling.

Though Muslim law stipulates many different ways to end a marriage, including a woman’s right to dissolve her marriage (khula), divorce by mutual consent (mubarra), delegated divorce (talaq-e-tafweez), judicial divorce (fasq) and dissolution under Muslim Marriage Act

This is one example about the progressive Quran. Now tell me if it is equal to the anti-human Manusmriti so should be burned along with MS.

 

[Cheepek]

1. Buy a copy of Manusmriti again and burn it publicly and record its photos and vids and post them on PDF.

2. Why should I burn the Quran ? The Manusmriti is an anti-human book whereas the Quran is a book describing how to achieve a spiritually, politically and socio-economicaly progressive and harmonious society to an extent possible 1400 years ago. For example I quote from my thread from 2015 whose OP is by an Indian Christian woman who when she married an Indian Muslim she married under Islamic marriage law ( from the Quran ) because that better secured her socio-economic future in case of divorce ( yes, the Quran gives the right of divorce to the female too and before that having the very concept of divorce ) :

This is one example about the progressive Quran. Now tell me if it is equal to the anti-human Manusmriti so should be burned along with MS.

Tldr; have no time to read this by a double faced dumbo.

 

[jamahir]

Tldr; have no time to read this by a double faced dumbo.

The text I posted is not even half a page. Why can't you read something if it provides you with truth and removes the cobwebs of ignorance from your brain ? Don't be the crass and snarky Hindutvadi who unnecessarily has access to the internet so can post absolute nonense.

 

[hussain0216]

I think you dont understand how things work here. In Greece migrants are drowned in the sea and in poland simply shot in the forest. Media pushed out and erased.

This is not about "white supremacists".

In 2022 the EU high court decided that its ok to push back migrants. Times have changed buddy.

As i said, keep your head down, know your place as a guest.

Your looking for house niggers bruv, this type of white supremacist behaviour is why no one gives a fcuk about Ukraine

Communities will defend themselves from the far right and white extremists

 

[Dalit]

Yesterday I burnt Manusmriti. Now for the sake of equality, burn Quran and tell us about it.

What satisfaction do you gain from burning books? I am very curious. Are you by any chance a book hater?

 

[TNT]

I never blamed Muslims for anything. If you see my posts, I have criticized the hypocritical west on many issues.
I do agree with you that the West call for minority rights in countries in Pakistan, but when it comes to countries in the west they too should practice what they preach about minority rights when in reality they discriminate against their minorities.

U never blamed, that 2nd part was for the other poster.

 

[Apollon]

Your looking for house niggers bruv, this type of white supremacist behaviour is why no one gives a fcuk about Ukraine

Communities will defend themselves from the far right and white extremists

"Communities" usually simply got destroyed in pogroms.

 

[Qmjd]

Exactly, RAMPAGE ! Some Pakistanis have low self-esteem where they don't want to remove the real problems in Pakistan or do not have the capability to do so ( see Qmjd's post below ) but they impose this "ghairat" thing on females and those who reject the mullahs. @Joe Shearer

Yes jahil, its calles, every action has opposite re-action.
If france to let the Holy Quran burn, than in re-action some one is burned.
What is your fuss about it.
Oah satan son, don't other preach about your humanity.
First france should learn the civilization or be ready to turn itself into animal kingdom of france

 

[hussain0216]

"Communities" usually simply got destroyed in pogroms.

Sure but giving up against white extremists is not a option,

The far right might rise but taking it on is incumbent on all good people