Does Britain really need the military?

[Maira La]

We are not desperately short of money, we are one of the most powerful economies in the world, and have military clout to back it. No one will take an island seriously without the ability to project power. The military is part and parcel of British life, and an institution that has basked the country in glory many times

That is not something he's written up himself.

He copy pasted the first paragraph of this piece written by some Simon Jenkins in 2010:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/nov/05/does-britain-need-the-military-army-navy-raf

He never includes links to the sources. Please warn him.

 

[waz]

Reality US Prize India More In their Strategic vision than UK in future you will See what I am saying

US & India Were Born Allies Until few Bad steps in 50's Made us apart

You have no idea of British/US ties.

Lol ok if you say so. Looking forward to your superpower status.
Now Back to topic.

You are wasting your time with him. May has already said the days of British firms being sold off to buyers are over. It will be a limited stake. Look at what happened at Hinckley....

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Irish Republicans- Terror threat.

I know there are some lakes in Ireland with guns and explosives buried in chests at the bottom. 80 years old though...

 

[Steve781]

I know there are some lakes in Ireland with guns and explosives buried in chests at the bottom. 80 years old though...

I'm talking about the Real IRA and the Continutiy IRA. There are scores of plots every year to kill soldiers and police. They don't get much media attention compared to Islamist terrorists but they are a threat.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Do these people even know that we have interests and overseas territories around the world? Do they know we that our exclusive economic zone is the fourth largest in the world(France is the 1st and U.S second, @Vergennes ). We need to patrol/maintain a presence in virtually the four corners of the globe. plus you never know when/where a war might erupt threatening your interests.

The exclusive economic zones of the United Kingdom in blue, including the British Overseas Territories and the Crown Dependencies. The British claim in Antarctica is shown in shaded blue.

France has an even larger one, guess they don't also need a military.

https://defence.pk/threads/nations-...-overseas-territories-and-possessions.390961/

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Kingdom of Mughals

Do you even know about Rajit Singh's Empire in Punjab? Moghuls were in India, Please look at facts. You can't just keep repeating "Moghals" everytime. They were not anywhere near Pakistan region in 1800. The Sikhs ruled the place. Take some time to read history of Punjab and Sindh.

And the crown belongs to India not Pakistan. The British did not steal it from Lahore, Rawalpindi, Peshawar, Multan or Sukker. At any rate just one of their projects like Lloyd Barrage is worth far more then that stupid diamond. See if that diamond would have fed generation of generations of 100,000s of Sindhis.

I'm talking

True. All the focus is on the Islamists but Belfast is still simmering just below the surface. Quite a few police officers have been murdered. After 4 decades of troubles the problem is not going vanish. It has abated and in time might with right policies be erased but for now it is still there, even if it is reduced.

 

[salarsikander]

Reality say others Wise Pal
In 2014 alone, investment from India into the UK increased by 64%, and is now almost level with France, the UK's second-largest investor after the US. just imagine it after Brexit Son in decade we take over

Throughout last year, India invested in 122 projects in the UK, compared with 124 for France and 564 for the US. This meant that Indian investment created 7,730 new UK jobs in 2014, and safeguarded a further 1,620, said UKTI.

Yet this is just the tip of an iceberg when it comes to UK firms owned by Indian businesses.
Source
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34787765


Laxmi mittal Still owns 11 billion $ of Investment in UK alone

Hindujas are double agent they will be never truly Yours Believe me I believe only country that can take indians Aboard are US No one Else

And yet Thousands if not millions of Indians would love to come to Uk and live there, even for a decaying power Britain is still a dying elephant.

 

[war&peace]

At any rate just one of their projects like Lloyd Barrage is worth far more then that stupid diamond. See if that diamond would have fed generation of generations of 100,000s of Sindhis.

Come on you can say that project might be more useful but please don't say it has more value. We need to value that.

Six months ago I proposed in the Guardian that if Britain was short of money it should cut defence. I did not mean reduce defence, or trim defence. I meant cut it altogether. We are desperately short of money and absolutely no one is threatening to attack us now or in the foreseeable, indeed conceivable, future. Besides, as we have seen this past week, other ways of ensuring security make more pressing claims on us. We just do not need an army, navy or air force. So why are we paying £45bn for them?

Hey this really abhorring that you are copying from others and not providing any reference. Bro, this is against the rules of the forum.

That is not something he's written up himself.

He copy pasted the first paragraph of this piece written by some Simon Jenkins in 2010:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/nov/05/does-britain-need-the-military-army-navy-raf

He never includes links to the sources. Please warn him.

Thank you for the clarification..

 

[John Reese]

And yet Thousands if not millions of Indians would love to come to Uk and live there, even for a decaying power Britain is still a dying elephant.

So is The middle East , US and other European countries

May be.you say that there Britain has many population of Indias and Pakistan because we once colony of British

There nothing special there many India Firms who gives jobs to thousand of UK citizens

You have no idea of British/US ties.



You are wasting your time with him. May has already said the days of British firms being sold off to buyers are over. It will be a limited stake. Look at what happened at Hinckley....

Sir,after reading bit of history
I have exactly idea about British and US relationship

Until Late 1800's UK never given recognition to USA

For example helping confiderate states of America are only given more support to this policy

After rise German Empire in eary 19th century

UK realise that they need a stronger partner much stronger terms resources and military than gentle French

So they changed their policy to suite USA
After 1st war British cement this equation more with USA which are made on mutual
Interest but somewhere there society's still think US as there old colonial state

Terms like cowboys and Yankees are British proper british slang

After rise of NAZI Germany its clear that only hope to safe Britain was US
Though Hitler has no plan to take on US another major world force when they taking soviet

It was British which persuade them of old English lineages but as normal state policies US only makes it move if it has its own self interest in it
After ww2 and mighty British Empire fallen
It's clear to UK that to make any relevance in post war era against mighty opposition's like soviet they will have to swallow there British Raj legacy and take USA as there sole protector

You can still feel this difference when you talk to any families which belong to old british Lords
They still has that selfpride and elite Ness in them against their old British Raj and US or 14 colonies

Sir,I say it's partnership formed by mutual interest not any bond of sharing same Caucasian DNA

 

[bickyis555]

Britain doesn't need the military. India can provide the protection that Britain needs. after all until 1947, India was a colony of Britain.

No one does not. Brazil's president was o̶v̶e̶r̶t̶h̶r̶o̶w̶n̶ ̶b̶y̶ ̶U̶S̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶e̶l̶l̶i̶g̶e̶n̶c̶e̶ succumbed to incompetence, bad governance and corruption and installed a former US intelligence asset.





'Merica? We'd conquer you too. And Canada while we're at it.

Or we would if you weren't already a state.

Completely agreed with your points

 

[Srinivas]

Falklands-Potential attack from Argentina
Gibraltar- Potential attack from Spain
Russia- Practicing bombing runs in the Channel. Attack unlikely but not possible
Islamists- Terror threat
Irish Republicans- Terror threat
Yes I'd say we need a military, probably much bigger than at present.

Why you people claim falklands?

Look where is britain and where is falklands and Gibraltar.

Irish and Islamists are not going to attack with advanced fighter jets and submarines.

 

[salarsikander]

So is The middle East , US and other European countries

May be.you say that there Britain has many population of Indias and Pakistan because we once colony of British

There nothing special there many India Firms who gives jobs to thousand of UK citizens

No middle ast country is saying we are chuppa powa.

Secondly, Indian need Hi tech consultancy thats why they employ british. Its not they are dying to get indians jobs, where as Indian themselves are struggling to get job in India as well as dying to come to the lands of britain.
So lets not claim it as chuppa powa

 

[John Reese]

Secondly, Indian need Hi tech consultancy thats why they employ british. Its not they are dying to get indians jobs, where as Indian themselves are struggling to get job in India as well as dying to come to the lands of britain.
So lets not claim it as chuppa powa

Pakistani are More Pissed When they see indian Get better Jobs in britain

India's Good Enough Our Economic growth is highest

Unlike Some countries Who believe in Do ,Will, Shall

 

[salarsikander]

Pakistani are More Pissed When they see indian Get better Jobs in britain

Says who ? LOL have you ever been to Uk for that matter ?
In fact I am I feel very good watching Indians doing great, They are quite humble the NRI as opposed to the ones who have never been out of Indian borders.
You were the one claiming it as such chupa powa indian

 

[Hamza913]

Rise the Asian Giants Like China And India Will End European dominance in decade

India to overtake UK in military spending: Jane’s

The UK will be more powerful than India for some time. Indian nukes are yet to have the range to hit the UK, but the same cannot be said for British nukes.