Does a fifth gen fighter change the dynamics of aerial warfare in S. Asia?

[nahtanbob]

Tukish TFX or Korean KFX or Chinese option is the way in that situation.

i am skeptical of all of them to build a true 5th generation aircraft
china might succeed down the road

 

[Basel]

i am skeptical of all of them to build a true 5th generation aircraft
china might succeed down the road

TFX have better chances of being true 5th gen because BAE is working with Turks also Turkish companies are rapidly advancing in R&D due to access to NATO tech.

Pakistan can have hybrid of what Turkish have and what Chinese have, by taking best out of both available tech and creating a new bird.

 

[nahtanbob]

TFX have better chances of being true 5th gen because BAE is working with Turks also Turkish companies are rapidly advancing in R&D due to access to NATO tech.

Pakistan can have hybrid of what Turkish have and what Chinese have, by taking best out of both available tech and creating a new bird.

if turkey gets NATO tech and Pakistan is in the China camp you can kiss goodbye to TFX

 

[Basel]

if turkey gets NATO tech and Pakistan is in the China camp you can kiss goodbye to TFX

Nope, you are wrong because Turkey first localize it then offer it to Pakistan.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Take a hike. And while you are at it, read this entire thread:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/book...ing-second-edition.520198/page-2#post-9913535

You have no idea what you are talking about.

https://www.science.gov/topicpages/r/radar+absorbing+materials
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/materials-science/radar-absorbing-material
https://www.researchgate.net/public...bsorbing_Materials_-_Mechanisms_and_Materials
want more @CriticalThought

Kindly provide a reference for your claim that stealth materials have also become better. Which stealth material can absorb UHF/VHF waves? And FYI, majority of stealth comes from geometry not materials.

And how can he provide reference for this, military RAM which is being currently in 5th gen jets, its highly classified matter, i would like to say both play 50/50 % to improve stealth performance of 5th gen jets ( geometry+ materials) @CriticalThought

 

[CriticalThought]

https://www.science.gov/topicpages/r/radar+absorbing+materials
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/materials-science/radar-absorbing-material
https://www.researchgate.net/public...bsorbing_Materials_-_Mechanisms_and_Materials
want more @CriticalThought


And how can he provide reference for this, military RAM which is being currently in 5th gen jets, its highly classified matter, i would like to say both play 50/50 % to improve stealth performance of 5th gen jets ( geometry+ materials) @CriticalThought

Don't make assertions based on speculations. Constructing arguments based on theorized capabilities and then insisting on them is called inventing crackpot theories.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Don't make assertions based in speculations. Constructing arguments based on theorized capabilities and then insisting on them is called inventing crackpot theories.

and why do you think that RAM is not being used in 5th gen jets only geometry is being used give us the valid reasons sir @CriticalThought

 

[CriticalThought]

and why do you think that RAM is not being used in 5th gen jets only geometry is being used give us the valid reasons sir @CriticalThought

I didn't say that. Go back and read what I actually said.

 

[sohail.ishaque]

When India attacked Chawinda with 600 tanks we only needed a few good men to tackle it. Similarly if our backs were to be against the wall, we would again need a few more good men and blessings of Allah to come out of it Insha Allah!

This saying, as relayed by the scholar Al-Tirmidhi, is an ancient Arab phrase attributed to the prophet Mohammed who, when one day he saw a Bedouin leaving his camel without tethering it, questioned him as to why he was doing this. ... The prophet Mohammed then replied, “Tie your camel and placeyour trust in Allah.”

Stealth fighters not ensure you win war .u.s has used all such jets in afghanistan and Syria but failed to win war​

But these stealth fighters are keeping their public safe unlike afghanistan and Syria. USA haven't won the war but their general public hasn't been slaughtered due to the quality of their arsenal. But we can't say the same for Afghanistan and Syria.

 

[nahtanbob]

Nope, you are wrong because Turkey first localize it then offer it to Pakistan.

if a puny attack helicopter is subject to such restraint
https://www.defensenews.com/global/...-helicopter-deal-between-turkey-and-pakistan/

I would expect stealth aircraft to be off limits

 

[Ultima Thule]

I didn't say that. Go back and read what I actually said.

This is your post # 6 @CriticalThought
]Kindly provide a reference for your claim that stealth materials have also become better. Which stealth material can absorb UHF/VHF waves? And FYI, majority of stealth comes from geometry not materials.
@CriticalThought

 

[CriticalThought]

This is your post # 6 @CriticalThought
]Kindly provide a reference for your claim that stealth materials have also become better. Which stealth material can absorb UHF/VHF waves? And FYI, majority of stealth comes from geometry not materials.
@CriticalThought

@WebMaster @The Eagle @Horus @Oscar @Dubious @Arsalan

Kindly take note of unprofessional and uneducated behavior.

 

[Yaseen1]

This saying, as relayed by the scholar Al-Tirmidhi, is an ancient Arab phrase attributed to the prophet Mohammed who, when one day he saw a Bedouin leaving his camel without tethering it, questioned him as to why he was doing this. ... The prophet Mohammed then replied, “Tie your camel and placeyour trust in Allah.”


But these stealth fighters are keeping their public safe unlike afghanistan and Syria. USA haven't won the war but their general public hasn't been slaughtered due to the quality of their arsenal. But we can't say the same for Afghanistan and Syria.

Either stealth fighter or good airdefense both can fulfill same role and keep you safe but stealth fighter is much expensive program than Abm and air defense like s400 our economy is too weak for supporting 5 gen jets so we should focus on upgrading jf17 and make it like 4.5 gen like su35 and improve airdefenses and develop stealth drones in mass numbers like iran has copied u.s stealth drone and mass produced it

 

[Basel]

if a puny attack helicopter is subject to such restraint
https://www.defensenews.com/global/...-helicopter-deal-between-turkey-and-pakistan/

I would expect stealth aircraft to be off limits

Your post shows you have no clue about level of military cooperation between Turkey and Pakistan since 1947.

 

[nahtanbob]

Your post shows you have no clue about level of military cooperation between Turkey and Pakistan since 1947.

a lot of the co-operation was when Turkey and Pakistan were right wing military dictatorships allied to USA
Turkey is still a NATO member.