Do you support Bangladesh plans to move Rohingya refugees to a uninhabitable flood prone island?

[monitor]

They are not going to live there forever. The island will basically be the refuge camp instead of right in chittagong. They will only be there for 2 months of temporary shelter and then they will go back to Arakan

They are going to live here for few more years. That's why govt shooting them to tempt island so that they dont need to interact with bangladeshi people. Already some local goon trying to exploit their innocence.

If even their fellow Bengali Muslims don't care about them, then who on Earth will?

We care that's why we have tried our best to help them. But as Bangladesh already a over populated country we can't keep them longer. It's their right to live in their own country Myanmar. China must use it's influence to solve things crisis. Chinese image is decreasing due to Chinese support of ethnic cleansing in rakhain state.

 

[Mage]

3 million of so called martyr

That is the official figure. Don't believe it and don't disbelieve it either. Just don't talk about it. But do appreciate their sacrifices be it 3 thousands, lakhs or millions. And don't always remain in 1971, I know that's where AL wants us to be stuck. Dead people are dead, no matter what you do they are not coming back. It's pointless to obsess over it here in 2017. 1971 or Pakistan have always been AL's strategy when they wanted to cover their failure or distract people's attention elsewhere. People should not get stuck in 71. Rather lets focus on making 2018 better for BD.

 

[Ocean]

Thank you

Actually bangladeshis are divided by 4 part on this issue.
Part one is the extremists cultist that are few in numbers in Bangladesh ( not in this forum though), they are either brain washed by the leftists's propaganda ( I do not even blame Indian government directly atm because officially Indian government always claim 1971 war as India Pakistan war you know this) , or/and few of them are just direct paid agents.
Most of this Brain washed guys are academic qualified and that make them harder to counter.

The another part is completely opposite and believe that even in a civil war only Bengalis are criminal and non Bengalis are all Great.
This group is also very educated and they keep attacking each other extremely.
Another group is a hybrid of both, who believe that both India and Pakistan is equally bad and our enemy (!),

and fourth and largest group is just tolerant to Pakistan. Their logic is in this war both side did crime as in civil war it's not uncommon. So we should forget it as Pakistanis are our Muslim brother and brothers sometimes can fight but this is over so no more quarrel.

Unfortunately the group(4th and final) is common folks and not very active in forums.
That's the reason you see that the 1st group is very active who is very interested to blame Pakistan even on such cases where Pakistan is never related. That doesn't make sense.

And also most of our country fellows are extremely emotional , that's why just never change side and if change side then completely change even political party supports, to because they believe that if we are the supporters of Pakistan we must criticize Bangladesh awami league.that's the real error in Bangladesh now,because bangldesh awami league now acting as Indian ally, but these commoners don't
Understand the strategy of the book art of war... However it's different subject.


Yes sadly most stories are true but all are forbidden to confess in Bangladesh.Muktis were actually separatists who was backing by India, so in this civil war it's natural that separatists will do worse thing.

But when Pakistani army was about to lost the war that time rajakars( patriot fighters IMHO) also did some violence too as the last resort to save Pakistan ( here I am again tagged as Pakistani minded or agent bangladeshi, or so called jamati propaganda victim, I can bet my house on this), but still naturally muktis did the worst thing as a fleeing Pakistani army and his supporters can do such crime if only they are aliens but here is a problem too because aliens won't loss battle against human.
So it's muktis who had advantage here and they committed most of war crime of this civil war, or India Pakistan war.


This is natural because no one is to be blame for other person's crime.

Nah not every bangladeshi, just most of pdf Bangladeshi maybe do that. But indeed that's disastrous too.but here some Pakistanis also make very insulting remark to bagladesh and this is a point too.

Lol yes truly doesn't make any sense. Pdf anti Pakistani bangladeshis are like that I agree.

This is the main problem in Bangladesh. If you read bangladeshi news links specially at Facebook you will find that most of peopels jump to conclusion just after n reading the head line.Most don't bother reading the body.this is the real disease that must be cured amd there is not other option left.

Well Pakistan took the Rohingyas for the sake of muslim brother hood. That's a great thing.
And the poster also saw the issue like that and for the sake of humanity he posted it. I see no harm, he did it right ting and I apriciate him. You and we means all should think of muslim brother hood and who are non-Muslims, they should also consider the issue for the sake of humanity.
I hope there was no motivation of degrading Bangladesh,the discussion should be continued fruitfully and peace fully.

However the Island name is 'char Vasan' and it's not only prone to flood but many more troubles. But thankfully the decision isn't finilized yet, so there is no point of a heated debate by both side.
But if govt will take such decision without making the place habitable they will be in serious problem. So I believe they won't do that so soon, specially when election is near.

Thats a nice detalied response.

I do feel bad about rohingya being possibly moved to island but honestly we cant do much help. We already have a big illegally settled rohing population, we have large number of refugees collectively from different parts of the world where biggest burden and azab are a huge around 5-6 million afghan refugees alone , our own population is suffering and people dont have the patience to stand more refugee influx also given that bangladesh had grossly msitreated bihari population , and MAINLY cause rohingyas are bengali ,and in 71 bengalis had proven how disloyal they are so no one wants to trust them again.

But i do agree its a very sick proposal try settling them in the mainlands different regions and help them join the workforce also bangla should appeal for donations from wealthy countries and do not eat up those donatiosm but ratehr spend on needy

 

[Centaur]

Thats a nice detalied response.

I do feel bad about rohingya being possibly moved to island but honestly we cant do much help. We already have a big illegally settled rohing population, we have large number of refugees collectively from different parts of the world where biggest burden and azab are a huge around 5-6 million afghan refugees alone , our own population is suffering and people dont have the patience to stand more refugee influx also given that bangladesh had grossly msitreated bihari population , and MAINLY cause rohingyas are bengali ,and in 71 bengalis had proven how disloyal they are so no one wants to trust them again.

But i do agree its a very sick proposal try settling them in the mainlands different regions and help them join the workforce also bangla should appeal for donations from wealthy countries and do not eat up those donatiosm but ratehr spend on needy

Thanks again. Actually about rohingyas there is a misunderstanding everywhere that they are Bengali. But in reality they are not.
They are by birth the peopels of miyanmer.
But their language has similarity with our Hill area and Hill languages are not even closer to Bengali language.

In reality Bangladesh isn't only the place of Bengalis. Like sylhet is inhabitat by assames. Because before 1947 sylhet was part of assam, not Bengal.but after that partition Muslims got the small proportion of assame and that is sylhet.
And sylhety language is much closer to assames not to Bengali.sylhety is a recognized languaged. Here is anyone from sylhet he/she will confirm that. So sylhety folks are Bangladeshi no doubt but indeed, but they are not Bengali.

(And also the regional language of Chittagong is closer to some language of miyanmer, not to Bengali but perhaps nearer to some Hill language not sure because it's almost alien to me)

But here in pdf shamelessly some Indian are trying to portray rohingyas as Bengali because their language has similarity with the regional language of Chittagong and Chittagong is part of Bangladesh. So in reality even the regional language of Chittagong has less relation with Bengali and that's the reason that we (most of bengali peoples) don't understand the regional language of Chittagong, until translate it to Bengali

And history tells that arakan(rakhain state) was never ever part of Burma as it always belonged to Muslims.
British Empire made it the part of Burma that's the truth. With little effort you and others can get those information. Just don't fall prey to any Indian propaganda please, as the real aim of India is to propogate BS and spread it with her literate hypocrites via online forums and always in history books,and people believe Indian source as their education system is perhaps the best in South aisan region.
And here in pdf indians either ignorant of real history or trying to serve the perpus of their country.

In reality India is a snake, the true dragon of the garden of eden, who want to devour it's neighboring countries.

India is a real threat to all its neighboring independent entity. You must know about the princely stats Hyderabad right?
Nizam wanted to be independent instead of becoming a part of Either India or Pakistan denomination, but just 1 year after India annexed Hyderabad with brute force for the sake of public opinion as Hyderabad's 85% peoples were Hindus.

On the other hand kashmir is still under India control. Here kashmir king joined india but here India isn't speaking of democratic rights as it will go against them.
Only Indian democracy and human rights is too much active when it serve her own perpus.
So please be aware of indian propaganda that is malicious always.

If you want to read the real history of Rohingiyas please do not rely on any secular source even not in Pakistan. Because no secular exists in the sub continent this is the bitter truth. The secular snakes (of South Asia) are actually Hindutva vadi,pretending to be secular.

 

[Centaur]

And don't always remain in 1971, I know that's where AL wants us to be stuck. Dead people are dead, no matter what you do they are not coming back

I am not remaining in 1971, I am talking because some peopels always spread hatred against our muslims brothers, because of the genocide hoax.
I am just trying to answer sometimes.

Rather lets focus on making 2018 better for BD.

Well said, I agree.

 

[Valar.]

@Jacksparrow47,

How different are Bengali and other dialects? As a Bengali speaker, can you communicate with them easily just like Urdu and Hindi speakers usually do? Thanks

@Mage,

Just honestly asking out of curiosity, when exactly did 3m become official figure?

 

[Mage]

@Mage,

Just honestly asking out of curiosity, when exactly did 3m become official figure?

It is our official figure. Written in our books. Whether I believe it or not, our future generations will surely believe that.

 

[Valar.]

It is our official figure. Written in our books. Whether I believe it or not, our future generations will surely believe that.

I don't want to drag this convo as it is irrelevant to the thread but I was just trying to ask which year it became official?

 

[Centaur]

@Jacksparrow47,

How different are Bengali and other dialects? As a Bengali speaker, can you communicate with them easily just like Urdu and Hindi speakers usually do? Thanks

Actually I have some confusion about Chittagong regional language ( chatgaiya language) . So I am confused. But personally I don't understand it.and also never saw anyone understand dite except Chittagong peopels or who lived there and tried to learn
But we can understand most of sylhety though.
And peoples from sylhet usually speak in Bengali with others as not all original sylhety words are understandable to others!

 

[Mage]

I don't want to drag this convo as it is irrelevant to the thread but I was just trying to ask which year it became official?

Probably in the 70's.

 

[Centaur]

It is our official figure. Written in our books. Whether I believe it or not, our future generations will surely believe that.

Will not believe it mate, just wait and see.New generation is rejecting the idea, even losing interest on this BS argument and seems not interested to that topic, except some neo secularist who are secular only to show their smartness to girls.
Their age is between 18-25.

However after marriage these feminists become Islamist trust me .
The real motivation is try to impress other girls even other men's wives by becoming her genuine friend.
But after marriage be Islamist and pray 4 times ( except Fajar saladt) in order to save own wife from becoming genuine friend of other men
This is hypocrisy and only those hypocrites will accept those BS 3 millions forever. And will keep showing islam and Muslims as villain.

1971 is a multi billion dollar business for some peopels. Who can't be a part of this, atleast they can use it for secularism that help them find women from other religion.

 

[countryman]

I don't want to drag this convo as it is irrelevant to the thread but I was just trying to ask which year it became official?

You brought this upon you, haha!
Firstly, you posted it in wrong section; secondly, you're wasting your time replying useless comments and lastly, know our history well before getting into discussion with these people. If you continued, I'm afraid you'll be taken by same hatred - it maybe their agenda because it's something upon which their nation is built but it's not our agenda. Regarding Rohingya: there are Rohiynga Muslims, they were aboriginal people persecuted by Myanmar several times but they got blurred and shadowed but much larger influx of illegal migrants. For current crises, both countries are equally responsible. Anyway, maybe, winding up this conversation will be best thing.

PS: I meant 'most of' by 'bulk of', and by 'recent decades' I meant last couple of decades in case someone didn't understand.

 

[Valar.]

You brought this upon you, haha!
Firstly, you posted it in wrong section; secondly, you're wasting your time replying useless comments and lastly, know our history well before getting into discussion with these people. If you continued, I'm afraid you'll be taken by same hatred - it maybe their agenda because it's something upon which their nation is built but it's not our agenda. Regarding Rohingya: there are Rohiynga Muslims, they were aboriginal people persecuted by Myanmar several times but they got blurred and shadowed but much larger influx of illegal migrants. For current crises, both countries are equally responsible. Anyway, maybe, winding up this conversation will be best thing.

PS: I meant 'most of' by 'bulk of', and by 'recent decades' I meant last couple of decades in case someone didn't understand.

Don't worry bruh.. how can I get convinced by someone who is not even convinced himself but believes that repeating a lie for a couple of generations is gonna make it a truth for future generations?

Regarding right section and winding up, well I have no idea about that yet new recruit lol

 

[DarkPrince]

Zionist are ruling the world. Nobody cares about Muslims. If we don't care about ourselves then who will ?

 

[Ocean]

Thanks again. Actually about rohingyas there is a misunderstanding everywhere that they are Bengali. But in reality they are not.
They are by birth the peopels of miyanmer.
But their language has similarity with our Hill area and Hill languages are not even closer to Bengali language.

In reality Bangladesh isn't only the place of Bengalis. Like sylhet is inhabitat by assames. Because before 1947 sylhet was part of assam, not Bengal.but after that partition Muslims got the small proportion of assame and that is sylhet.
And sylhety language is much closer to assames not to Bengali.sylhety is a recognized languaged. Here is anyone from sylhet he/she will confirm that. So sylhety folks are Bangladeshi no doubt but indeed, but they are not Bengali.

(And also the regional language of Chittagong is closer to some language of miyanmer, not to Bengali but perhaps nearer to some Hill language not sure because it's almost alien to me)

But here in pdf shamelessly some Indian are trying to portray rohingyas as Bengali because their language has similarity with the regional language of Chittagong and Chittagong is part of Bangladesh. So in reality even the regional language of Chittagong has less relation with Bengali and that's the reason that we (most of bengali peoples) don't understand the regional language of Chittagong, until translate it to Bengali

And history tells that arakan(rakhain state) was never ever part of Burma as it always belonged to Muslims.
British Empire made it the part of Burma that's the truth. With little effort you and others can get those information. Just don't fall prey to any Indian propaganda please, as the real aim of India is to propogate BS and spread it with her literate hypocrites via online forums and always in history books,and people believe Indian source as their education system is perhaps the best in South aisan region.
And here in pdf indians either ignorant of real history or trying to serve the perpus of their country.

In reality India is a snake, the true dragon of the garden of eden, who want to devour it's neighboring countries.

India is a real threat to all its neighboring independent entity. You must know about the princely stats Hyderabad right?
Nizam wanted to be independent instead of becoming a part of Either India or Pakistan denomination, but just 1 year after India annexed Hyderabad with brute force for the sake of public opinion as Hyderabad's 85% peoples were Hindus.

On the other hand kashmir is still under India control. Here kashmir king joined india but here India isn't speaking of democratic rights as it will go against them.
Only Indian democracy and human rights is too much active when it serve her own perpus.
So please be aware of indian propaganda that is malicious always.

If you want to read the real history of Rohingiyas please do not rely on any secular source even not in Pakistan. Because no secular exists in the sub continent this is the bitter truth. The secular snakes (of South Asia) are actually Hindutva vadi,pretending to be secular.

Yes absolutely agree that nomsecular history exists its sommuch hinduvta propaganda. Actually iwanted to personally take out time and research on rohingyas no ihad not believed entirely everything written about them here specially from indians, i always wnated to do my own reasearch its just that i need some free time on hand.

Anyways thank u another great post.