Divine laws are more relevant for modern societies.

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Right now, Islam seems to be destroying Pakistan, wouldn't you say, seeing the evidence before us all?

No, right now - bad leadership and decisions has gotten us here. Islam is the only bit of thread that is holding different ethnicities and sects from slaughtering each other - without Islam there would be Republic of Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan, Pashtunistan, Kashmir and not Pakistan. Islam is the only thing that is going to save us.

 

[Zibago]

Poverty and crime related to infrastructure and energy crisis? Are you an idiot...?

Poverty and crime are related to economic activities in our country its same everywhere low economic activities always increase crime and poverty

 

[Zibago]

Unlike others from Khwabandkhwahishistan i am a realist and i know a radical change in our social and judicial system will only lead to civil war

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Unlike others from Khwabandkhwahishistan i am a realist and i know a radical change in our social and judicial system will only lead to civil war

What sort of radical changes are you talking about?

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Right now, Islam seems to be destroying Pakistan, wouldn't you say, seeing the evidence before us all?

Yes Islam is destroying Pakistan. Islam created the poverty, Islam created corruption, Islam created lawlessness, Islam created tax evasion. If this is Islam then your living in a world that hasn't been discovered yet.

 

[waleed3601]

ah yes, im sure the afghans love to remember the good old peaceful days of liberty and prosperity they enjoyed living under sharia law from 1996 to 2001. damn those americans for spreading their democracy to afghanistan!
boy, it would be great if taliban could rule over pakistan, rivers of milk and honey would begin flowing, no doubt.

 

[Zibago]

What sort of radical changes are you talking about?

In our laws and judicial and police practices and norms

ah yes, im sure the afghans love to remember the good old peaceful days of liberty and prosperity they enjoyed living under sharia law from 1996 to 2001. damn those americans for spreading their democracy to afghanistan!
boy, it would be great if taliban could rule over pakistan, rivers of milk and honey would begin flowing, no doubt.

Itni dor kiyon jatey ho just ask swatis and waziristanis

 

[Musafir117]

73 sects and One Sharia.
Solution.
Make one sect first than implement sharia.
Or
Make 73 different Sharia for every sect.

 

[Maira La]

Right now, Islam seems to be destroying Pakistan, wouldn't you say, seeing the evidence before us all?

Salafism/Wahabism has infected Pakistan's Islam with KSA's support and funding. For decades it's been spreading like a virus and altering Pakistan's local Sufi Islam. As of today Pakistan's Islam is beyond saving.

Pakistan needs to make a choice eventually: part ways with Islam altogether or go down with it!

 

[Falcon29]

I think the Ibadi are the one's living most like their Prophet, not ISIS, Saudi Arabia or other Islamic majority nations. Christianity died with Constantine, Theodosius I, and the Council of Nicaea. Judaism is also dying. However you failed to realize Ideologies that are replacing them such as Deism and non-Affiliation movements and instead went to atheism and fundamentalism.

Omani's are a cultural peoples, they are very warm to guests and well mannered. Some attribute that to religion, some to culture. All religions are dying however, and we should let them go into the past. There's no need to replace them with Deism or whatever. I miss the days when religion used to be about a pursuit for truth. Nowadays it's just a interest or hobby or mask people wear. We need to change that and stop resorting to old ideas. Let's come up with new ideas about our purpose in life. By philosophical means. The world shouldn't put up with organized religion which leads people into major misunderstandings on their purpose in life, which also leads to social ineptness and lack of integration with reality. There are some lucky people who left organized religion early on, but it still left an scar and probably influences their life if their immediate family follows it.

Salafism/Wahabism has infected Pakistan's Islam with KSA's support and funding. For decades it's been spreading like a virus and altering Pakistan's local Sufi Islam. As of today Pakistan's Islam is beyond saving.

Pakistan needs to make a choice eventually: part ways with Islam altogether or go down with it!

From what I've noticed, Sufi's seem to be very spiritual people. The content of Islam is still Sunni Islam. The people themselves do observe prayers as much as they can, but culturally lead Western lifestyle. Which basically turned me off, it means they don't believe in religion enough for it to get in the way of daily affairs, dating, partying, etc....Salafi's on other hand usually are Salafi just to show off. Both annoy me, I don't like religion in the West. Overseas it mostly doesn't work either. Which is what extremists keep complaining about, that their people aren't implementing God's faith and hence they make it their duty to violently restore it. Just like past Muslim figures.

It depends on culture, out of Arabs, I've only seen Islam work well with Omani's and Palestinians. The rest either aren't religious but liberal and more nationalist, or technically are religious but not to point where it threatens ruling body. Those are the ones that have trouble with militancy.

 

[Moonlight]

while you are living in USA and enjoying the freedoms of a secular society you want a Shariah law in Pakistan. If that is not hypocrisy I dont know what is.

Sir how many time I have to tell you I never talked abiut the implementation of tha law in Pakistan. Reread the article

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Unlike others from Khwabandkhwahishistan i am a realist and i know a radical change in our social and judicial system will only lead to civil war

The fact that you mainly linked poverty and crime to infrastructure and electricity shows me how much of a realist you are

Salafism/Wahabism has infected Pakistan's Islam with KSA's support and funding. For decades it's been spreading like a virus and altering Pakistan's local Sufi Islam. As of today Pakistan's Islam is beyond saving.

Pakistan needs to make a choice eventually: part ways with Islam altogether or go down with it!

Part ways with Islam? Never and impossible; we stick with our religion until our deaths - this world is a test; a test 99% of Pakistanis dont intend on failing.

 

[Zibago]

73 sects and One Sharia.
Solution.
Make one sect first than implement sharia.
Or
Make 73 different Sharia for every sect.

Or jo chal raha hay thek karo

 

[Moonlight]

Reading the really well written OP, I compliment @Ammara Chaudhry 's efforts and intentions. I am not muslim and I do share the popular view that sharia is completely inapproprite for the modern world we live in; but one has to appreciate noble intent when one sees it. Whether divine or man-made all codes of behavior enshrined in laws are intended for ensuring social harmony; when such laws are made part of religions, then you end up with interpretations and mis-interpretations. That is what has happened to all the greatest of codes of law - whether Hindu or Islamic or whatever else.

I do have a question for @Ammara Chaudhry : why is it called 'way to the water'? and from the language you have quoted I can see it only applies to people in yatrib/mecca - so why and what makes muslims mis-interpret it as applicable to elsewhere?

Thank You!

Water is source of all lives. Also, in this context it's interpreted as clean & pure.

No sir, it's not forced to implement on others and I did mention this above. Back in time even non-Muslims spoke the same language. My whole point is to break the stigmas related to this law. .

 

[VCheng]

Salafism/Wahabism has infected Pakistan's Islam with KSA's support and funding. For decades it's been spreading like a virus and altering Pakistan's local Sufi Islam. As of today Pakistan's Islam is beyond saving.

Pakistan needs to make a choice eventually: part ways with Islam altogether or go down with it!

If PDF and its management and membership is anything go by as a representative sample, it would seem likely that Pakistan will go down with Islam.