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Divine laws are more relevant for modern societies.

Thank You! :)

Water is source of all lives. Also, in this context it's interpreted as clean & pure.

No sir, it's not forced to implement on others and I did mention this above. Back in time even non-Muslims spoke the same language. My whole point is to break the stigmas related to this law. :).

We have nothing against you, the law is not as controversial as some may make it. In the past, people followed it no problem and it was normal routine in daily life. The controversy is that religion is man made and shouldn't be associated with the supernatural or any form of divinity. If you think humans are out of control and need to be put in place by Sharia law, then make a case for that. It's not a divine concept though. Jews and Muslims believe Godly Law is divine concept but they don't implement since they're mostly liberal realists who want to enjoy life. If Sharia law was implemented, there would be millions ready to execute for adultery, corruption, sale of intoxicants, etc....

So my point is that if liberal Muslims/Jews don't let religion interrupt their lives why do they still adhere to it? What are they gaining out of it personally?
 
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To those who are talking and bashing me regarding the implementation of this law.

Either you guys are reading the comment and coming up with conclusion or didn't pay attention while reading it.
I did not talk about its implementation in any country. Not even in Pakistan.
My whole point was to tell briefly about the real face of Shariah Law. And clear the few misconceptions. Ironically, I even mentioned Islam doesn't enforce this law unwillingly on people and many are still having hard time to accept it.

Peace! :)
 
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Thank You! :)

Water is source of all lives. Also, in this context it's interpreted as clean & pure.

No sir, it's not forced to implement on others and I did mention this above. Back in time even non-Muslims spoke the same language. My whole point is to break the stigmas related to this law. :).

Right there is the problem don't you think? Why would you interpret? Someone else will say water stands for shape shifting....Doesn't that mean we should he laws that keep changing?
 
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Right there is the problem don't you think? Why would you interpret? Someone else will say water stands for shape shifting....Doesn't that mean we should he laws that keep changing?

The water link is apt. If you don't know how to swim, you will drown in it. :D
 
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I did not talk about its implementation in any country. Not even in Pakistan.

Well you are supposed to implement religious law according to Judaism/Islam,otherwise you're infidels. Your thread is another proof that religion is man-made. All the 'Muslims' here went bezerk at the idea of implementing religion, just tells you they're all closet atheists, lol.

These fucking munafiq infidels...smh....
 
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We have nothing against you, the law is not as controversial as some may make it. In the past, people followed it no problem and it was normal routine in daily life. The controversy is that religion is man made and shouldn't be associated with the supernatural or any form of divinity. If you think humans are out of control and need to be put in place by Sharia law, then make a case for that. It's not a divine concept though. Jews and Muslims believe Godly Law is divine concept but they don't implement since they're mostly liberal realists who want to enjoy life. If Sharia law was implemented, there would be millions ready to execute for adultery, corruption, sale of intoxicants, etc....

So my point is that if liberal Muslims/Jews don't let religion interrupt their lives why do they still adhere to it? What are they gaining out of it personally?

Sir what is liberalism? Once again people have misunderstood the word 'liberal' and concept of 'liberalism'.
Liberal societies are against the oppression and child labors and interestingly these liberals are doing this at their best. All these Pakistani liberals sitting in big house asking a 7 years old kid to serve them. Is this liberalism? And Jewish what are they doing to Palestinian kids, is this the liberalism?
They are gaining the media attention. They're paid to oppose the divine laws or anything related to religion. Their lives are confused b/w secular and sacred.
 
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Well you are supposed to implement religious law according to Judaism/Islam,otherwise you're infidels. Your thread is another proof that religion is man-made. All the 'Muslims' here went bezerk at the idea of implementing religion, just tells you they're all closet atheists, lol.

These fucking munafiq infidels...smh....

Infidels? But at least not according to Islam or shariah law.
 
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Right there is the problem don't you think? Why would you interpret? Someone else will say water stands for shape shifting....Doesn't that mean we should he laws that keep changing?

There is flexibility in Islam and it does talk about change in law as per the need of time. But as long as the purpose of the law is not being changed. :)
 
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Sir what is liberalism? Once again people have misunderstood the word 'liberal' and concept of 'liberalism'.
Liberal societies are against the oppression and child labors and interestingly these liberals are doing this at their best. All these Pakistani liberals sitting in big house asking a 7 years old kid to serve them. Is this liberalism? And Jewish what are they doing to Palestinian kids, is this the liberalism?
They are gaining the media attention. They're paid to oppose the divine laws or anything related to religion. Their lives are confused b/w secular and sacred.
I wish i could afford a 7 year old slave but unfortunately i can barely afford my uni fee let alone a slave
 
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I wish i could afford a 7 year old slave but unfortunately i can barely afford my uni fee let alone a slave

So you're the same liberal? Lol

And paying tuition gives you mini heart attack. I know this feel. :lol:
 
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I wish i could afford a 7 year old slave

Islam actively promotes setting slaves free. So would you set him free if you spent money on buying him ?

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BTW congrats on becoming an 3lit3 M3M83R
 
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Sharia law, something which makes people think of a very rigid and extreme way of ruling a country. Many of us don't even know the meaning of the word sharia. This word literally means, “a way” or “A path to life giving water”. And the word Halakha is derived from the Hebrew language and it means the same as word sharia. Therefore, this word is entrenched from the Abrahamic tradition.

Additionally, Divine laws like laws of nature are more appropriate for human society to flourish and they are more closer to the nature.
Similarly, sharia laws are modern form of divine or natural laws of human society. It is pertinent to mention here that all terrorists organizations supporting narrative of sharia laws are in fact anti Sharia and divine rules of forgiveness and mercy.


(Before advocating Sharia laws let me clarify Islam is the religion of peace and forgiveness and I don't support narratives of militant groups).


Now what is sharia law?

Unfortunately, many of us do not even know the basics of this law and lambastes it. This law is based on teaching of Quran and Sunnah (authentic examples of prophet Muhammad (SAW)). Only examining the component of the sharia law, will yield a little or no understanding of the law. Islam’s law talks about every aspects of life and gives the complete outline to live a life. It conceives this earth as a single ‘city’ with different occupants. In modern words a ‘global village’. It talks about the society as whole and its benefits.


Islamic Federalism.

Before going further, I would like to briefly explain about Islamic federalism. Unlike the western federalism, Islamic federalism gives complete freedom to all the states under Muslims rule to creat their own laws and rule their states according to that. Additionally, the first even written constitution was developed by prophet Muhammad (SAW) in Madina, called Misaq e Madina (Madina Charter). Here's the opening of Madina Charter;

"This is a document from Muhammad the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace), governing relations between the Believers i.e. Muslims of Quraysh and Yathrib and those who followed them and worked hard with them. They form one nation – Ummah”
It says all citizens of ‘Yathrib’ (old name of Madina). Everyone regardless their tribe and religion is under one flag and one nation---‘Ummah’.
Moreover, it states into "Misaq" document, that: "No Jew will be wronged for being a Jew. The enemies of the Jews who follow us will not be helped. If anyone attacks anyone who is a party to this Pact the other must come to his help.” This constitution assured the equal rights to all the citizens of Madina. Also under Islamic law,” A Muslim can neither drink wine nor prohibit a Christian from drinking it in a Christian state ruled under Sharia Law”.


The primary object of this law is mercy.

Allah says,

وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَاكَ إِلَّا رَحْمَةً لِّلْعَالَمِينَ

(And We did not send you (O Muhammad) except as a mercy for all creation.[3])

And prophet Muhammad (saw) stated, “And the Prophet (s) said, “The Most Merciful shows mercy to those who have mercy on others. Show mercy to those on earth, and the One above the heaven will show mercy to you.”
Mercy for all not just for Muslims and from this we can summarize the primary object of this law. Also, Islam does not spread hate, but it is the religion with the message of peace and mercy for all.

Basics of Sharia Law.

Moreover, Sharia law consists five main branches. Adab (behavior, morals and manners), ibadah (ritual worship), i'tiqadat (beliefs), mu'amalat (transactions and contracts) and 'uqubat (punishments). The combination of these branches make up a society that is build on Adl (justice), pluralism, and equity for each and every single member of the society. In addition, it is set of Príncipe that governs the behavior of a Muslim individual toward himself/herself, neighbors, community, family, nation, etc. Also, Muslim polity as whole (Muslim Ummah). It is a complete way of life and governs the interactions between countries, communities, and in between social and economic organization.

Common misconceptions related to sharia law.


Pursuing this further, people believe that Islam teaches to impose the sharia law unwillingly on people. But in reality, Islam doesn't promote any specific form of government. But it requires to choose any form based on Adl (absolute justice). Allah says in Quran, “Verily, Allah enjoins justice, and the doing of good to others; and giving like kindred; and forbids indecency and manifest evil and transgression. He admonishes you that you may take heed" (16:91). Discern, there's no mentioned of religious preference. Therefore, ruling with absolute justice is the main priority regardless the form of government. For instance, king Solomon from Israel kingdom, ruled successfully based on monarchy----fundamental principle of shariah law.



Furthermore, mainstream media today panting the wrong image of sharia law to the world. The sterling examples they report are countries like, Pakistan, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, and other Muslims counties. Although, these countries don't even represent the true sharia law. Even though, these countries are ruled with combination of sharia law and non-Islamic cultural practices. Western media is distorting the concept of sharia law with the linking it to cruelty, backwardness, rigidness, anti-modernism and very intolerant faith. Now people believe this Islamic law opposes the egalitarian society. It also opposes the idea of life, liberty, and pursuits of happiness.
Interestingly, Muslims ruled Spain for 800 years under sharia law. Later when in 1602, Christians reconquered Spain, the greatest allegation they brought against Muslims was their being too tolerant in religion.
The Archbishop of Valencia, in recommending the expulsion of Muslims from Spain stated:
"…that they (the Muslims) highly praised nothing as much as liberty of conscience in all matters of religion, which the Turks, and all other Mohammedans, allow their subjects to enjoy,". This is self explanatory about the tolerance of Muslims and intolerance of Christians. Unwittingly this charge against Muslims complimented Muslims in Spain.

Next, one of the common misconception western have misunderstood about sharia law is that, it enforces to cut off the hand for stealing a piece of breads, etc. In reality, it permits to amputate thieves’ hand. According to Quran in Chapter 5 verses 38 to 40 about the punishment for stealing are in following examples;

“As to the thief, male or female, cut off his or her hands: a retribution for their deed and exemplary punishment from Allah and Allah is Exalted in Power, full of Wisdom.

But if the thief repent after his crime, and amend his conduct, Allah turneth to him in forgiveness; for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Knowest thou not that to Allah (alone) belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth? He punisheth, whom He pleaseth and He forgiveth whom He pleaseth: and Allah hath power over all things.”

Reading the portion of the subject and kenning it, wouldn't help, but creat more confusions. Surprisingly, sharia law states that “if someone is caught stealing -- as a result of hunger, poverty or necessity -- their hand should not be amputated. Instead, a thorough investigation must be done as to the circumstances of the theft that caused the individual to steal. If it is found that the individual stole as a result of necessity, then instead of amputation, Sharia law dictates that well-to-do members of the community provide support for the individual. The provision of support could be in the form of financial support, employment, education and charity.”
This is when the purpose of Zakat is making more sense, it makes sure that the needs of people are being fulfilled with the money of Zakat. So, these kind of evils would never occur in society in the first place.
To cite an example, what foreign observers remarked about the 18th century of the Ottoman Empire,
“No one locks their house in a city of one million people because no theft has ever been reported. You do not see a vagabond, a beggar or a man who shouts loudly on the streets. Women receive the greatest respect at home and enjoy authority. There is nothing more abominable then to stare at a women walking down the street, and especially raising your hand to beat them."-----Mr Porter, British Ambassador to Turkey.

Furthermore, another misconception related to sharia law is that, it doesn't give the freedom of religion. Today we all idealize the constitution of USA. It's granting of freedom of religion, guaranteed rights to life, pursuits of happiness is admired by all. But 1400 years ago prophet Muhammad (saw) had already given these rights to everyone. These rights were granted to all the citizens under Islamic federalism, regardless their faith.
Here are few examples from Quran about protecting the rights of freedom of religion to everyone:


"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error… [2:256]

"Say (Muhammad it is) truth from the Lord of all. Whosoever will, let him believe, and whosoever will, LET him disbelieve." [18:29]


If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe![10:99]

Quran also talks about the rights to pursuit of happiness. According to Quran citing few examples;


“To each is a goal to which Allah turns him; then strive together (as in a race) towards all that is good…[1:148]
"But seek, with the (wealth) which Allah has bestowed on thee, the Home of the Hereafter, nor forget thy portion in this world...[28:77]

“For them there is the glad tiding [of happiness] in the life of this world and in the life to come; [and since] nothing could ever alter [the outcome of] Allah's promises, this, this is the triumph supreme![10:64]
This is very brief explanation of sharia law and misconceptions.

I will conclude this up with very famous saying, “don't judge a book by its cover”. Judging Islam or Islamic law based on what media shows, wouldn't help either Islam/Muslims or world as a whole. It's a great stumbling block to the world. All the information is on our finger tips and rather buying the news from media or relying on media completely, one should search it himself. To make this world peaceful, we are all obligated to educate ourselves about the matters. Quran encourages everyone to find out the truth and seek knowledge. We should use all the capabilities God has endowed us. Once we give this up to an intellectual elite, we have forfeited our right to think.



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So you're the same liberal? Lol

And paying tuition gives you mini heart attack. I know this feel. :lol:
Sara paisa metro pay laga do aur fee bhi bhara do awaam ahaan jaye ?

Islam actively promotes setting slaves free. So would you set him free if you spent money on buying him ?

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BTW congrats on becoming an 3lit3 M3M83R
I dont even have that hypothetical slave(which in real life i would never have in the first place)
 
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