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Divine laws are more relevant for modern societies.

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1: Punishment for adultery is not sentenced out if they repent.

2: Polygamy was practiced due to the massive gender population imbalance due to war; soldiers would tell their closest friends to marry their wives if they were martyred in war - so the wives could have protection and some to take care of.

3: Another misconception; Islam was viewed as a political state back then - so to leave 'Islam' meant treason against the state; in the US you can get executed for treason. This rule was never enforced under Muhammad (SAW) - despite some of his followers that left Islam right in front of him.

1. There is no need too repent . Adultery is not a crime .Its morally questionable but not a criminal offence . Only a retard will wish someone to be lashed for adultery if they do not repent .

2. BS . Then why is polygamy not an offence in any Muslim country yet ?

3. Islam was never a political state .. If it was Arabs and ottomans would not be fighting each other .Leaving a religion is not treason , neveer was never will be . Still it is punishable by death in many Muslim countries (http://www.loc.gov/law/help/apostasy/apostasy.pdf)
 
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Sir I am not talking about shariah in Pakistan. Plus, if you're pointing me out for not being in Pakistan and saying this all. Then let me tell you something. Making a hijrah' to seek opportunities and/or for Allah is jihad itself. Rasool Allah (saw) migrated too. And lastly if shariah is implemented in Pakistan and I am asked to live there. Trust me I will. :)

In Indonesia Aceh province, corruption is still huge even though it has already been under Islamic local government. There is a new rebellion because of that, 100 man with guns. And now they have surrendered after Central Government promises them to guard their "Islamic local government" by sending scores of officials from our respected Anti Corruption Body (from Central Government)

If the society cannot implement secular system yet effectively, they will not be able to implement Shariah Law as well.

So in essence, Shariah law is not a magic thing. It is up to the society itself to make it good or bad.

And the version can be different as well, due to different interpretation.

I am not against Shariah Law implementation though since I am a Muslim and want to be a very good Muslim also.
 
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Omani's are a cultural peoples, they are very warm to guests and well mannered. Some attribute that to religion, some to culture. All religions are dying however, and we should let them go into the past. There's no need to replace them with Deism or whatever. I miss the days when religion used to be about a pursuit for truth. Nowadays it's just a interest or hobby or mask people wear. We need to change that and stop resorting to old ideas. Let's come up with new ideas about our purpose in life. By philosophical means. The world shouldn't put up with organized religion which leads people into major misunderstandings on their purpose in life, which also leads to social ineptness and lack of integration with reality. There are some lucky people who left organized religion early on, but it still left an scar and probably influences their life if their immediate family follows it.



From what I've noticed, Sufi's seem to be very spiritual people. The content of Islam is still Sunni Islam. The people themselves do observe prayers as much as they can, but culturally lead Western lifestyle. Which basically turned me off, it means they don't believe in religion enough for it to get in the way of daily affairs, dating, partying, etc....Salafi's on other hand usually are Salafi just to show off. Both annoy me, I don't like religion in the West. Overseas it mostly doesn't work either. Which is what extremists keep complaining about, that their people aren't implementing God's faith and hence they make it their duty to violently restore it. Just like past Muslim figures.

It depends on culture, out of Arabs, I've only seen Islam work well with Omani's and Palestinians. The rest either aren't religious but liberal and more nationalist, or technically are religious but not to point where it threatens ruling body. Those are the ones that have trouble with militancy.
it seems .. u follow a very peculiar version of Islam and currently you are the lone member of that group!
 
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To those who are talking and bashing me regarding the implementation of this law.

Either you guys are reading the comment and coming up with conclusion or didn't pay attention while reading it.
I did not talk about its implementation in any country. Not even in Pakistan.
My whole point was to tell briefly about the real face of Shariah Law. And clear the few misconceptions ...
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That's the problem. The question is who will implement this sharia? Certainly Angels won't descend from the heavens to setup the sharia system. It has to be you and me or worse our Ulema. BTW under which modern day Alim's sharia rule will you prefer to live under? If you do have preference then how many will agree with you?
 
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Sharia can no longer be implmented, their are hardly 10 people in Fajr prayers and you are talking about sharia. Muslims these days are more interested in dargas and ashuras.Islam is spreading but just by name and their are very few true muslims
 
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Well atleast the Indians have the IT jobs secured in heaven, we Pakistanis need to hope we get some other minor jobs secured.:rofl:

seriously man, our Pakistani mullah will be protesting in Jannat too, against Angels ..
and what if Obama manage to enter heaven , than we will be witnessing some intense Protest from JI and JUI ...
along with banners which says " Afia Siddiqui , Qoum ki beti ko Reha karo " lol
 
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1. There is no need too repent . Adultery is not a crime .Its morally questionable but not a criminal offence . Only a retard will wish someone to be lashed for adultery if they do not repent .

2. BS . Then why is polygamy not an offence in any Muslim country yet ?

3. Islam was never a political state .. If it was Arabs and ottomans would not be fighting each other .Leaving a religion is not treason , neveer was never will be . Still it is punishable by death in many Muslim countries (http://www.loc.gov/law/help/apostasy/apostasy.pdf)
1: Adultery is actually a criminal offense; you can get 4 years in prison and 500$ fines in the United States. Combined with other criminal offenses such as "Lewd and lascivious behavior" it can reach up to much more charges. Adultery is criminalized in most countries; In India you can go up to 5 years in prison for adultery even if you are unmarried. In South and South East Asia, South America, and Africa you can be killed by a mob or family members for adultery. But Islam is much more merciful - all it asks is for you to ask for forgiveness from God and your wife; if not - than you must be punished.

2: Hindus in India practice more polygamy than Muslims - despite it being banned for Hindus. Polygamy is allowed in Muslim countries but under the same rules and regulations that Shariat put forth - these include :
- ONLY IF YOUR FIRST WIFE APPROVES
- Must have separated and equal property for each wife.
- Must spend equal time with each wife.
- Must treat each wife with the same respect and love.
- No favoritism.
- Wives must approve and cannot be forced to either marry or allow Husband to marry another wife.
- ect...

Less than 1-2% of the Muslim population practice polygamy most of whom come from South Asia. Polygamy was only enacted because of God’s concern for the welfare of women and orphans who were left without husbands and fathers who died fighting for the Prophet and for Islam. It is a verse about compassion towards women and their children; it is not about men or their sexuality.

3: Your third claim shows me how much you truly know about history and this topic. Islam has existed as a political state many times; people of different tribes, languages, nations, ethnicity, and cultures were all united under one banner and religion. Unrest in Jordan and Hejaz began as a result of nationalist reforms which circled around 'Turks'; this resulted in Nationalism taking a foothold in every corner of the Ottoman Empire - most minorities began thinking of an independent state based on their culture or ethnicity. This can be highlighted from the Kurdish conflict. The first to break off were the Balkan countries. Also here is a fun fact - most Arabs fought against the Arab revolt than those who fought for it. Only two provinces to burst into an Arab revolt was Kingdom of Hejaz and Hashemite Kingdoms. Apostasy rule is barely enforced in countries.
 
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Sir what is liberalism? Once again people have misunderstood the word 'liberal' and concept of 'liberalism'.
Liberal societies are against the oppression and child labors and interestingly these liberals are doing this at their best. All these Pakistani liberals sitting in big house asking a 7 years old kid to serve them. Is this liberalism? And Jewish what are they doing to Palestinian kids, is this the liberalism?
They are gaining the media attention. They're paid to oppose the divine laws or anything related to religion. Their lives are confused b/w secular and sacred.

Social inequality, injustice? The world is definitely not just, because there are many people out there who don't care for ethics and will walk all over you. Religion won't change that, humans need to change it.
 
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There is no need too repent . Adultery is not a crime .Its morally questionable but not a criminal offence . Only a retard will wish someone to be lashed for adultery if they do not repent .
I think you're confusing teenage sexual infatuation with adultery. Adultery happens with married couples, and is a crime.

2: Hindus in India practice more polygamy than Muslims - despite it being banned for Hindus. Polygamy is allowed in Muslim countries but under the same rules and regulations that Shariat put forth - these include :
- ONLY IF YOUR FIRST WIFE APPROVES
- Must have separated and equal property for each wife.
- Must spend equal time with each wife.
- Must treat each wife with the same respect and love.
- No favoritism.
- Wives must approve and cannot be forced to either marry or allow Husband to marry another wife.
- ect...
... Stamina :smokin:
 
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