Did Nehru get Gandhi killed?

[Verve]

How come this sort of debate does not crop up in any Islamic nations?

The religious extremism and intolerance narrative was being promoted in Pakistan by certain sections and the majority actually opposed and opposes it. Hence we were able to crush it.

Plenty of debates on PDF if you care to search ...

 

[pothead]

Sorry, if you want to enlist me as advocate, this is not the way.

That was never my intent but even you can't argue with the result

That's a pretty grand fail. Your style is more Nimzowitsch or Tartakower, never anything straightforward, always crooked.

hmm...may be you are right sir.
Still, sometimes provocations are needed to get to truths.

Honestly, I sincerely feel the political discourse in India would be a lot nicer if everyone took a dozen steps back in their narrative.

The religious extremism and intolerance narrative was being promoted in Pakistan by certain sections and the majority actually opposed and opposes it. Hence we were able to crush it.

Plenty of debates on PDF if you care to search ...

I would rather debate this in some other thread. I believe Pakistan is fighting it better than most Islamic countries but you are over-extending yourself when you say you crushed it.
Anyway, some other thread perhaps.

 

[Joe Shearer]

That was never my intent but even you can't argue with the result


hmm...may be you are right sir.
Still, sometimes provocations are needed to get to truths.

Provocations, not lies.

Honestly, I sincerely feel the political discourse in India would be a lot nicer if everyone took a dozen steps back in their narrative.

Anything that is based on fact, ANYTHING, is acceptable. Not what you did. That is unforgiveable.

 

[pothead]

Provocations, not lies.



Anything that is based on fact, ANYTHING, is acceptable. Not what you did. That is unforgiveable.

You really think anyone would have responded to a thread I made passionately pleading RSS is not involved in death of Gandhi?

Sir, you entered the thread and posted here simply because it was provocative. Tell me it is not the truth.

Regarding it being a lie, well, it is as much a lie as the right wing getting blamed for every murder happening in India.
We all build narratives to a goal. the left is master at it. We, the right wing, are learning it and using it to survive. Contrary to popular belief, The RW eco-system is an infant compared to the left wing. It shows in the quality of discourse. We are loud and acerbic where as the left wing is polished.

So, until we get more space, this kind of provocations are needed to make the other side step back a bit. Because sometimes 'kahi pe nigahe, kahi pe nishana' can get very uncomfortable when we start putting our heroes under microscope.

 

[Verve]

Not the public at large. It is far more complex. As I have tried to show, in all honesty. If, nevertheless, you wish to believe something else, that is entirely up to you.

It is a slow brainwash that has been accelerated since the firm grip on rule ... our powerful media houses are pro-secularism (whereas the public opposes it) and your powerful media houses are pro-hindu majoritarianism (& a significant size of population approves it).

Nazis were not a large group and were not armed either. But once in power, you know the rest.

 

[Joe Shearer]

It is a slow brainwash that has been accelerated since the firm grip on rule ... our powerful media houses are pro-secularism (whereas the public opposes it) and your powerful media houses are pro-hindu majoritarianism (& a significant size of population approves it).

Nazis were not a large group and were not armed either. But once in power, you know the rest.

Yes, that post was far better, thank you very much.

The election numbers will show what was significant and what was not.

 

[pothead]

Yes, that post was far better, thank you very much.

The election numbers will show what was significant and what was not.

I am not hopeful.
There is extreme polarization right now, at least in the Hindi heartland.

To be honest, the current BJP scares me a bit as well. They are growing in ways Congress even at their height never did. Many people underestimate the reach of RSS among people.
My fear is precisely because the amount of power BJP could wield if there is no suitable opposition. I don't want them becoming another Congress.

Unfortunately the opposition is running around like headless chicken, crying wolf at everything. When the wolf really comes, I think no one will believe them.

 

[Politico]

Why did you create this thread?

The title is about Nehru and Gandhi and then you talk about Stalin and Lenin?

Pothead created the thread. Stalin was more interesting than Nehru. Gandhi was more interesting than Lenin. Perhaps, if Stalin killed Nehru then Gandhi would have lived longer. Just reflecting

 

[El Sidd]

Pothead created the thread. Stalin was more interesting than Nehru. Gandhi was more interesting than Lenin. Perhaps, if Stalin killed Nehru then Gandhi would have lived longer. Just reflecting

Ahhh his post was hidden.

Pothead... Hmm nice name

Well who cares its the great sub continental success.

Atleast these blokes are not shouting Gandhi Zinda hai for which I respect them.

Ours carry their deceased house to house for the ballot

 

[Politico]

Ahhh his post was hidden.

Pothead... Hmm nice name

Well who cares its the great sub continental success.

Atleast these blokes are not shouting Gandhi Zinda hai for which I respect them.

Ours carry their deceased house to house for the ballot

I am still amazed how Gandhi became so popular in the UK whilst just a few centuries ago their PM referred to him as "that fakir in a napkin"

 

[El Sidd]

I am still amazed how Gandhi became so popular in the UK whilst just a few centuries ago their PM referred to him as "that fakir in a napkin"

Feminism hahahaha

 

[RowdyRathore]

You really think anyone would have responded to a thread I made passionately pleading RSS is not involved in death of Gandhi?

Since terrorism has no religious influence behind it as we're being told... RSS wasn't behind the killing of M.K. Gandhi if you'd see in that perspective....
India's history has been distorted upto the neck.

 

[pothead]

Ours carry their deceased house to house for the ballot

Dude, in our nation a family hijacked Gandhi's name forever.
Don't ask when and how it happened & how we let it happen - it magically happened.
In that way I feel you are at a much better place. Imagine someone naming themselves Jinna or Bhutto and usurping their legacy forever. That's what happened to my nation.

What a joke we have become.

 

[El Sidd]

Dude, in our nation a family hijacked Gandhi's name forever.
Don't ask when and how it happened & how we let it happen - it magically happened.
In that way I feel you are at a much better place. Imagine someone naming themselves Jinna or Bhutto and usurping their legacy forever. That's what happened to my nation.

What a joke we have become.

Meet Asif Ali Zardari.

Dude not bragging but ours are worse. Like even in the lowest of lows Pakistanis still beat Indians.

Zardari Bhutto Sharif Altaf Asfandyar

Your politicians are doodh peetay bache compared to our clowns

 

[pothead]

Meet Asif Ali Zardari.

Dude not bragging but ours are worse. Like even in the lowest of lows Pakistanis still beat Indians.

Zardari Bhutto Sharif Altaf Asfandyar

Your politicians are doodh peetay bache compared to our clowns

Oh dear, your guys have learnt from our fake 'gandhis'.
Well sir, good luck