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These tensions must not cool down as long as Japan is refusing to acknowledge its mistake, by using boats and adding uav patrols China will always keep Japan alarmed. Meanwhile boycotting their products must be reminded as it will continue to damage their economy faster than Japan is switching PM. Perhaps a massive group of fishermen should be organizing a trip once every 3 months just like what they did at the beginning.
 
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Found this:

CIA: Japan's Senkaku claim the strongest
Report in 1970s concluded China has no basis for territorial bid

Jiji
Friday, Oct. 5, 2012

WASHINGTON — A report compiled by the CIA on the sovereignty of the Senkaku Islands around the time China started to formally claim them as its own concluded that Japan's sovereignty case was by far the stronger and more convincing.

"The Japanese claim to sovereignty over the Senkakus is strong, and the burden of proof of ownership would seem to fall on the Chinese," said the intelligence report, which was drafted in May 1971 and was included in declassified documents from the National Security Archive of George Washington University.

In related documents, the CIA stated that any dispute between Japan, China and Taiwan over the islands would not have arisen had it not been for the discovery of potential oil reserves on the nearby continental shelf in the late 1960s.

CIA: Japan's Senkaku claim the strongest | The Japan Times Online
 
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U.S. Senate OKs amendment backing Japan in Senkaku dispute
POLITICS DEC. 01, 2012 - 06:00PM JST

WASHINGTON —
The U.S. Senate has unanimously approved an amendment that reaffirms the U.S. commitment to Japan in its territorial dispute with China over the Senkaku Islands as Washington tries to counter any attempt by Beijing to challenge Japan’s administration of the archipelago.

The measure was attached to the National Defense Authorization Bill for Fiscal Year 2013 still being debated in the Senate. Senators Jim Webb of Virginia, James Inhofe of Oklahoma, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and John McCain of Arizona have co-sponsored the measure.

The amendment notes that while the United States “takes no position” on the ultimate sovereignty of the territory, it “acknowledges the administration of Japan over the Senkaku Islands.”

It further adds that “unilateral actions of a third party will not affect United States acknowledgement of the administration of Japan over the Senkaku Islands.”

The legislation reaffirms the U.S. commitment to Japan under the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security and warns that an armed attack against either party “in the territories under the administration of Japan” would be met in accordance with its provisions.

The amendment also noted U.S. opposition to any efforts to coerce, threaten to use force, or use force to resolve territorial issues.

The Senate reiterated the U.S. national interest in freedom of navigation, peace and stability, respect for international law, and unimpeded lawful commerce in the region.

“This amendment is a strong statement of support for a vital ally in Pacific Asia,” Senator Webb said in a statement.

It “unequivocally states that the United States acknowledges the administration of Japan over the Senkaku Islands, and that this position will not be changed through threats, coercion, or military action,” added the Democratic senator.

Webb chairs the Senate Foreign Relations East Asian and Pacific Affairs Subcommittee.

The sovereignty of the islands has been a source of friction for decades, but the row erupted earlier this year after the nationalist governor of Tokyo said he wanted to buy them for the city, forcing the Japanese government to nationalise them.

Chinese vessels have been spotted in and around the territorial waters every day for the last month.

Both sides have publicly refused to back down on their respective claims to the Japan-controlled islands, known as Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China.

National pride as well as potential mineral reserves are at stake in the decades-old dispute, which has hit the huge trade relationship between the world’s second and third largest economies.

U.S. Senate OKs amendment backing Japan in Senkaku dispute ? Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion
 
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These tensions must not cool down as long as Japan is refusing to acknowledge its mistake, by using boats and adding uav patrols China will always keep Japan alarmed. Meanwhile boycotting their products must be reminded as it will continue to damage their economy faster than Japan is switching PM. Perhaps a massive group of fishermen should be organizing a trip once every 3 months just like what they did at the beginning.
Japan has already dipped into recession due to the dispute, while China's economy is on the way to recovery. Time is on our side, not their. They want to force a confrontation right this moment because they know they will lose in the long term. This is their last chance to contain China in Asia, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Americans are behind it.
 
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A former Japanese diplomat has accused the United States of manipulating Japan since the second world war in order to “eliminate” prime ministers who sought to develop better relations with Beijing.

Ukeru Magosaki, who also served as the head of the Foreign Ministry’s Intelligence and Analysis Bureau, has recently written a book that has soared to the top of Japan’s bestseller lists.

The book - Sengoshi no Shotai (The Truth Behind Post-war History) – states that the US will never remove its military bases from Japanese territory, no matter how much public outcry there is.

Magosaki also said he believes that certain factions in the US would even like to see Japan develop nuclear weapons.(to fight Uncle Sam’s war).

“In the book, I divide Japanese leaders into two groups; those who have wanted to pursue independent foreign policies and those who have just followed US instructions and policies,” Magosaki said in Tokyo yesterday.

“Those in the first group were not welcomed by the US government and were usually quickly eliminated from the post of prime minister.”

This was not achieved directly by Washington, he claimed, but through subtle influence over key politicians, the media, government officials and senior executives of major companies.

A spokeswoman for the US embassy in Tokyo declined to comment on the allegations made in Magosaki’s book.

To achieve its control of Japan’s political processes, Washington has interfered with media coverage, encouraged opposition parties, twisted public opinion and even brought down governments by “eliminating” key cabinet members, Magosaki claims.

Two of the Japanese politicians who he claims have been hounded for their independent thoughts have been Yukio Hatoyama, who lasted less then nine months as prime minister until June 2010, and Ichiro Ozawa, whose reputation has been tarnished by a financial scandal and a legal case.

Magosaki believes that had Hatoyama remained in power, the government would not be making moves to restart Japan’s nuclear reactors – shut down in the aftermath of the disaster at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant – and would not have gone ahead with raising the consumption tax or deploying US military Osprey aircraft to Okinawa.

These issues, along with the ongoing debate over the Diaoyu-Senkaku islands and the Trans-Pacific Partnership free trade discussions, are all closely connected with Washington’s global geopolitical interests, Magosaki said.

The US was “encouraging politicians like [national policy minister Seiji] Maehara to take action against China as that has a benefit for the US,” he said.

And while business interests in the US may want closer co-operation with China, the US government was pursuing what Magosaki termed an “offshore balancing strategy” under which neighbouring nations - he named South Korea, the Philippines, Vietnam and Japan – are encouraged to pursue actions to constrain China and its growing regional influence.

“The Senkaku [Diaoyu] issue is part of that strategy,” he said.

“Today, in the US, there are some people who want Japan to have a nuclear bomb.

“This is related to balancing strategy, to counter China by using Japan’s military power.

“From China’s point of view, Yoshihiko Noda has been the worst prime minister they could have had and they feel there can be no trust” between the two governments, Magosaki said. “That means that anyone who replaces him will be welcome.”

The 4th Media » A Japanese Ex-diplomat Accuses the Sino-Japanese Rift Part of US Agenda: The Truth Behind the Post-war History
 
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China should remember no country is an island in a globalised world
Beijing's fight with Japan over the Senkaku islands could have worldwide ramifications
The Observer, Sunday 7 October 2012

There is no doubt that the row over a group of tiny islands in the East China Sea has sealed the deterioration in relations between China and Japan. The diplomatic spat over the Diaoyu/Senkaku islands, which sparked violent protests, with Japanese flags and factories burned, stunned Tokyo, and caused Japanese companies to consider scrapping investment plans in China. Why open a new factory, they ask, just for it to be firebombed or defaced while an acquiescent administration turns a blind eye?

Until recently the "one-plus-one" investment policy (for every factory built in Japan, companies also had to build one overseas) benefited China. But now insiders say firms will look to support growth in Indonesia, the Philippines or newly open Burma.

For the International Monetary Fund, which has taken its annual meeting to the Japanese capital for the first time since 1964, the dispute is one of many linked to slowing growth and a rise in protectionism.

This week's meeting was scheduled for Cairo, until the Arab spring made the region look too unstable for a gathering of finance ministers and global institutions. But with Chinese frigates circling the disputed islands and pleas for calm going unheeded, Tokyo's political situation is closer to Cairo's than the IMF expected.

China's leaders are undoubtedly under pressure. Growth has slowed from more than 10% to less than 8% over the past two years, but its rising population means that growth of between 6% and 7% is needed just to keep pace. In March, Beijing cut its growth target for the whole of 2012 to 7.5%. As any student of politics knows, a foreign dispute distracts attention from failing economic policies.

But opting for a short-term boost in domestic popularity over a deterioration in long-term relations with foreign investors looks to be a huge mistake by the Beijing authorities. And the IMF understands that this local dispute has much wider ramifications: after all, Japan is the world's third-largest economy and China, its second-biggest, accounts for about a fifth of the world's total economic output. Any slowdown is going to hamper a global recovery.

The Americans have already put the brakes on expansion in China, in reaction to general corruption and to the growing threat from intellectual property theft. European companies have also backed off, preferring to send in high-value goods made at home.

Japan's economy is not in great shape either. This year, colossal spending on imported gas and oil will send the balance of payments into reverse for only the second time in three decades. The yen is at a historic high against the dollar, making Japanese products expensive abroad, and the political situation remains unstable, with the Democratic party government able to push through a VAT rise only on a promise of early elections.

And let's not forget the eurozone crisis. That continues to provide plenty of food for thought for IMF officials, given the failure to deal with Spain's financial black hole and growing public unrest among southern Europe's increasingly desperate citizens.

Yet it is the Japan/China dispute that is worrying them most. Japan believes the Chinese are wilfully making trouble: it has stressed that it bought the islands earlier this year to keep them out of the hands of the mayor of Tokyo, a Boris Johnson-style character with a populist enmity towards the Chinese community in Japan.

Maybe Beijing thinks it can go it alone without Japanese investment. It would be wrong, and the decision could have implications for us all.

China should remember no country is an island in a globalised world | Business | The Observer
 
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Abe is not going to be more hawkish when he's elected and all these bellicosity are simply election time rhetoric. When a person of an open society assumes power he has to tame down and do what's best for the country. (see Obama)

One hypothetical question: What would Japan do if China signs off the future claim of Okinawa, would Japan gives up the Diaoyu claim in a hurry if there's a face saving way to do it?
 
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USA taking military exercises in frond of China's door is sign of world peace. While China doing the same thing in her own territory is sign of making things complicated. Weird

Because your claims are not realistic and not the norm of the plant and we been doing military maneuvers with the states since world war 2 so its natural next to air while your going this to show off and plant fear to your neighbors well its just making things bad for your country's case.
 
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Abe is not going to be more hawkish when he's elected and all these bellicosity are simply election time rhetoric. When a person of an open society assumes power he has to tame down and do what's best for the country. (see Obama)

One hypothetical question: What would Japan do if China signs off the future claim of Okinawa, would Japan gives up the Diaoyu claim in a hurry if there's a face saving way to do it?

Nope will see the East Fleet of china in the bottom as artificial coral reefs but i think its bad for the marine life chinese products are hazardous
 
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Abe is not going to be more hawkish when he's elected
Well, this is not the first time Abe's being the prime minister and we know what he was like the last time, so yes you can bet on Abe being Abe the ultra rightwinger, but with Ishihara and Hashimoto Toru by his sides.

One hypothetical question: What would Japan do if China signs off the future claim of Okinawa, would Japan gives up the Diaoyu claim in a hurry if there's a face saving way to do it?
No country on earth other than China recognizes that there is even a territorial dispute on Okinawa, the world simply will laugh off China's claim(Same as China threatening to claim Hawaii before Hillary Clinton).

Japan's policy on Diaoyudai is simple: they will accept the ICJ challenges on Diayudai, and is urging Korea and Russia too head to the ICJ.
 
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Well, this is not the first time Abe's being the prime minister and we know what he was like the last time, so yes you can bet on Abe being Abe the ultra rightwinger, but with Ishihara and Hashimoto Toru by his sides.


No country on earth other than China recognizes that there is even a territorial dispute on Okinawa, the world simply will laugh off China's claim(Same as China threatening to claim Hawaii before Hillary Clinton).

Japan's policy on Diaoyudai is simple: they will accept the ICJ challenges on Diayudai, and is urging Korea and Russia too head to the ICJ.


Then in such a case China certainly will welcome a hawkish Japan. It will force the big trouble maker in this area to show his cards in terms of his 4-way alliance and will have to choose favoritism. Taking Taiwan, Korea and Russia into considerations China simply just can not lose if a 'hawkish team' in charged. She won't wait for the outcomes either but instead will provoke them into actions. How hard it is to provoke a man like Ishihara? :flame: Win win for China. :tup:

You never know what the future will bring. If the US can 'award' Okinawa to Japan in the 70s anything can happen a century from that date.

ICJ is for weaklings and losers.
 
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GM is doing pretty well since Chinese people started boycotting Japanese brands. US might not have intended to use Japan as a strategy against China when they assigned administration rights to Japan at the beginning but that's not the case in recent years. Even some Japanese politicians think so but it's probably too late to restore the damaged relations. It doesn't matter China is doing pretty well while you can only find negative news coming from Japan.
 
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GM is doing pretty well since Chinese people started boycotting Japanese brands. US might not have intended to use Japan as a strategy against China when they assigned administration rights to Japan at the beginning but that's not the case in recent years. Even some Japanese politicians think so but it's probably too late to restore the damaged relations. It doesn't matter China is doing pretty well while you can only find negative news coming from Japan.


But I have to laugh at some Filipino posting some random article on: "China should remember no country is an island in a globalised world. Beijing's fight with Japan over the Senkaku islands could have worldwide ramifications" like other countries really care about these two-bit disputes. Here's an answer for them:

In 2006, the US is the biggest trading partner for 127 countries versus China's 70

In 2011, China has 124 while the US has 76

According to this trend you can be rest assured China is gaining on as the biggest trading partner for more countries to come and in this stage and age your biggest trading partner IS your biggest friend. Don't let someone fool you by saying otherwise.

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/asia/china/AJ201211300008


BTW opinions can be differ but numbers don't lie.
 
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But I have to laugh at some Filipino posting some random article on: "China should remember no country is an island in a globalised world. Beijing's fight with Japan over the Senkaku islands could have worldwide ramifications" like other countries really care about these two-bit disputes. Here's an answer for them:

In 2006, the US is the biggest trading partner for 127 countries versus China's 70

In 2011, China has 124 while the US has 76

According to this trend you can be rest assured China is gaining on as the biggest trading partner for more countries to come and in this stage and age your biggest trading partner IS your biggest friend. Don't let someone fool you by saying otherwise.

China overtaking U.S. as global trader - AJW by The Asahi Shimbun


BTW opinions can be differ but numbers don't lie.

Worldwide ramification lol let me wake this Pinoy's dream, in EU nobody f*cking care about the Diaoyu islands. The EU crisis is the only thing they can think of even the US fiscal cliff has more attention than our disputes.
 
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