Detailed pics of new POF guns!!

[StArk 13]

 

[Zarvan]

Mr what you are doing I can't see any of your post @StArk 13

 

[Indika]

Mr what you are doing I can't see any of your post @StArk 13

Top secret , for his eyes only .

 

[StArk 13]

The main problem with G3 is it's low ammo carrying capabillity.in modern warfare a soldsoldiecarries low ammo he is as good as dead or useless.Pakistan Army needs to issue standard ammo carrying vests for soldiers with G3.ammo carring vests which can carry 6 magazines(120 bullets) of G3 and 3 grenades.please note that 1 megaines will be loaded in rifle so a soldier will carry total of 7 megazines of G3 totalling 140 bullets.140 bullets are enough for any battle even a standalone battle in which soldiers are cut off from and reinforcements.So what we reallsuppliesweneed are ammo carrying vests for G3 which can carry 6 spare megazines and 3 grenades.it will increase combat capabillity and effectiveness of G3 by double.

Top secret , for his eyes only .

I was having some problems figuring out how the replies work

Mr what you are doing I can't see any of your post @StArk 13

What do you think about my review bro?

The modified G3:

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G3S

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The modified MG3

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The DMR:

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SOME DETAILS:
Pakistani POF group demonstrated in Istanbul modernized rifle G3M, as well as the modification of ukaemu MG3. This first replace the arming of Pakistan Army G3A3 and G3P4.
Comparison of the standard rifle of Pakistan Army G3A3 with a modernized model G3M. In this latter case, the modified trigger mechanism, reducing the trigger force at 1.8 kg. For now, the military has ordered seven thousand. modernized design / Photo: Remigiusz Wolf

The main armament individual Pakistani army remains, produced from the 1960s to the license of the German H & K by the state-owned POF (Pakistan Ordnance Factories) G3 rifle variant of G3A3 with the butt of constant and G3P4 with retractable butt (local variant of the G3A4). This weapon is a powerful energy-powered rifle cartridge 7.62 mm x 51.
G3M during military tests. The efficient muzzle brake allows for faster directing barrel after a shot on goal and significantly reduced the scatter gun / Photo: ISPR / Hilal

Industry tried to encourage the army and troops paramiltarne to buy rifles to ammunition indirect. POF has developed even in the years 2006-2007 on the basis of G3 variants PK7 the cartridge 7.62 mm x 39 and PK8 for ammunition 5.56 mm x 45 (New weapon for Pakistan, 2007-06-16). Do not have given rise to greater interest from potential buyers. PK7 proved to be too expensive for the price clones AK / AKM from China, and PK8 rejected the army, deciding to keep the cartridge 7.62 mm x 51 Both structures have been tested factory, but never implemented them into production.

An interesting fact is the lack of handle mounting rail under tension. Representatives of POF argued that this is to reduce the risk of injury during hand reload

In 2007, Pakistan declared the need to purchase from 500 to 800 thousand. construction of new shooting, but the cost of this operation, the estimated time for approx. 2 billion, discouraged military decision-makers. Implementation of the production of the new model proved to be too expensive, furthermore, if the army is satisfied with the design used for archery. It is worth noting that because of the weapons used in the technology of the 1940s and 1950s production G3 rifle is now quite expensive. \

Comparison variety G3S summary of 300-mm barrel for a modernized G3M with a standard length of 450 mm. The mass of the former is 4.5 kg, the second 4.7 kg

In the meantime, POF developed new variants of the G3, including a shortened variant with a barrel length of 300 mm and a variant called G3S parawyborowy of 508-mm barrel DMR Mk 1

The latter were slightly older variant were ordered, inter alia, by Vietnam (Vietnam buys Pakistani weapons, 2007-08-23). Created a modification of the standard rifle called G3M.
New samopowtarzalny sniper rifle based on the G3 - DMR Mk 1 with 508-mm barrel. Older generation models were ordered, inter alia, by Vietnam
Finally, a few weeks ago been decided on gradual adaptation to version G3M all guns used in the army G3A3 and G3P4. Among the changes to adapt weapons to mount additional equipment by placing a section of the universal mounting rail on the back of the receiver, replacing the bed by a team of three Picatinny rails (with the rail has not been cut to a certain length on the left side so as not to cause injury when tensioning rifle shooter) .
New device outlet MG3 machine gun. It has at the same time allow for hassle-free recoil of the barrel, as well as allow for an increase in accuracy with the same weapon by reducing its impact while shooting a soldier / Photos: Remigiusz Wolf

G3M rifle has a modified trigger mechanism, a much better, more smooth operation. Furthermore, the muzzle provided a new, much more efficient muzzle brake. This way a single shooter firing much faster can guide the weapon to the target again. In addition, POF has developed two variants of front grip - fixed and rotary three positions (vertical and inclined at 45 ° to the front and back). For now, the army ordered the first 7 thousand. G3M of butts extensible with additional intermediate position, used when shooting from vehicles.

The military plans of the G3A3 rifle adapted to a similar standard, but with fixed and telescopic rifle butts. This last solution is to enable soldiers to conduct fire even when the flask up to the summary, which often takes place during the ambush. Unfortunately, the strong cartridge rifle, shooting G3M with stock rod fully retracted is only a waste of ammunition. POF not yet introduced a telescopic flask (with a movable foot moving on the sleeve of the guide), but it has to be one of the available commercial models on the market. Ultimately, all used by the Pakistani army rifles to be adapted to the standard G3M.

POF also presented in Istanbul slightly modified universal machine gun MG3. Also in that case the rejection of the amplifier characteristic there is a new output unit, performing the role of the exhaust brake. This solution allows you to have the ukaemu much more accurate fire while slightly decreases recoil. It is worth noting that due to the delays associated with the introduction of the weapons successor MG3 in Germany, it is the POF took part in the modernization of 2.2 thousand. German ukaemów this type.
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@Zarvan .... The G3 in top 3 pics.... that's the configuration I was talking about a few days ago on your post on fb .Equip a G3 with ACOG sights and a foregrip and it is best rifle for military use

 

[Zarvan]

The main problem with G3 is it's low ammo carrying capabillity.in modern warfare a soldsoldiecarries low ammo he is as good as dead or useless.Pakistan Army needs to issue standard ammo carrying vests for soldiers with G3.ammo carring vests which can carry 6 magazines(120 bullets) of G3 and 3 grenades.please note that 1 megaines will be loaded in rifle so a soldier will carry total of 7 megazines of G3 totalling 140 bullets.140 bullets are enough for any battle even a standalone battle in which soldiers are cut off from and reinforcements.So what we reallsuppliesweneed are ammo carrying vests for G3 which can carry 6 spare megazines and 3 grenades.it will increase combat capabillity and effectiveness of G3 by double.



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What do you think about my review bro?


@Zarvan .... The G3 in top 3 pics.... that's the configuration I was talking about a few days ago on your post on fb .Equip a G3 with ACOG sights and a foregrip and it is best rifle for military use

Nice but it seem that its on its way out because Army Chief himself has told Army Officers at Lahore Core that Gun will be replaced now.

 

[ZAC1]

New G3M is good but JV with turkey should bring out a more excellent product for PA
Well I am in Love Already with G3M

Looks same as G3M

 

[Zarvan]

New G3M is good but JV with turkey should bring out a more excellent product for PA
Well I am in Love Already with G3M

Looks same as G3M

In next few months thing would get clear that How many and which Guns we test to replace our G3

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

POF also presented in Istanbul slightly modified universal machine gun MG3.

i worked semi-offically at the POF display stand at IDEF Expo 2009 in Kuyukcekmece Istanbul when MG-3 was on full display (along with what was at that time a prototype of the POF-Eye close quarter combat anti terrorist weapon)

good memories

a few old snaps i took - already posted on the forum way back in April 2009 i believe it was (now in public domain and hardly a secret so no harm to our interests posting it)

I think PK needs more accurate rifles at the fight against terror. Considering funds, H&K-33E would be the best option. Does Pakistan have any future plans for replacing AKs and G3s?

Depends which service. Air Force Special Forces (SSW) use 5.56 NATO standard weapons like the FN2000s

AKs will be used for some time as they meet our requirements especially in intense rugged areas where troops deal with hit & run tactics and need a reliable weapon to counter attack (G3s have formidable stopping power but are known to jam). Our Turkish counterparts who used it as their primary arm had the same issues when fighting PKK terrorists. Like the terrorists we face - Turkiye's terrorists generally use Russian/German/Chinese (and probably American or israeli) made rifles, known for their sturdy structure (especially the former). Lighter than G3 rifles by over 1 kilo.. Other issue of some G3 variants - deforming mag slots after frequent and heavy use. Still they are old but gold, have my respect. IT can blow through most body armor (helpful against Indian forces)

Oh and in the long run who knows we could replace more G3s with PK-8s or M4 which we do use in some numbers though it costs a lot $$$$ to institute such large-scale changes in a country where more than a half-million men comprise the army. But as we have already adapted 7.62 and are also locally producing it so its not going to change in immediate overnight future as far as i can understand.

G3 can be adapted to suit different needs....its recoil @ auto is daunting but that's what tripods are for....plus they make fantastic long range burst weapons - and deadlier with a good optics

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Nice but it seem that its on its way out because Army Chief himself has told Army Officers at Lahore Core that Gun will be replaced now.

Source ? And which rifle are they allegedly planning to induct?

 

[Zarvan]

Source ? And which rifle are they allegedly planning to induct?

Gun I can't say but a officer present during General Raheel speech has told this to a friend as for which gun Sir no idea. As far as I know ask your father to get it confirmed from friends at Lahore Core.

 

[StArk 13]

Nice but it seem that its on its way out because Army Chief himself has told Army Officers at Lahore Core that Gun will be replaced now.

that's even better.As I have said many times before Pakistan Army should switch to 5.56/45mm NATO Round rifle but G3 should remain in service. 2 soldiers in a squad should be equipped with a G3 with ACOG sights and all other squad members should have 5.56/45mm rifles. the perfect and deadly combination for modern battlefields

i worked semi-offically at the POF display stand at IDEF Expo 2009 in Kuyukcekmece Istanbul when MG-3 was on full display (along with what was at that time a prototype of the POF-Eye close quarter combat anti terrorist weapon)

good memories

a few old snaps i took - already posted on the forum way back in April 2009 i believe it was (now in public domain and hardly a secret so no harm to our interests posting it)



Depends which service. Air Force Special Forces (SSW) use 5.56 NATO standard weapons like the FN2000s

AKs will be used for some time as they meet our requirements especially in intense rugged areas where troops deal with hit & run tactics and need a reliable weapon to counter attack (G3s have formidable stopping power but are known to jam). Our Turkish counterparts who used it as their primary arm had the same issues when fighting PKK terrorists. Like the terrorists we face - Turkiye's terrorists generally use Russian/German/Chinese (and probably American or israeli) made rifles, known for their sturdy structure (especially the former). Lighter than G3 rifles by over 1 kilo.. Other issue of some G3 variants - deforming mag slots after frequent and heavy use. Still they are old but gold, have my respect. IT can blow through most body armor (helpful against Indian forces)

Oh and in the long run who knows we could replace more G3s with PK-8s or M4 which we do use in some numbers though it costs a lot $$$$ to institute such large-scale changes in a country where more than a half-million men comprise the army. But as we have already adapted 7.62 and are also locally producing it so its not going to change in immediate overnight future as far as i can understand.

G3 can be adapted to suit different needs....its recoil @ auto is daunting but that's what tripods are for....plus they make fantastic long range burst weapons - and deadlier with a good optics

dead right Sir. that's what I've been trying to say

 

[RAMPAGE]

buy the way Army has decided to go for new Gun and this was told by none other than General Raheel Shareef in his speech which he gave at his latest visit to Lahore Core.

Video?

 

[Zarvan]

that's even better.As I have said many times before Pakistan Army should switch to 5.56/45mm NATO Round rifle but G3 should remain in service. 2 soldiers in a squad should be equipped with a G3 with ACOG sights and all other squad members should have 5.56/45mm rifles. the perfect and deadly combination for modern battlefields


dead right Sir. that's what I've been trying to say

Pakistan will choose a Gun which has same caliber as G3, that I am sure about. I really hope that they go for FN SCAR even if they have to take money from GCC for that purpose

Video?

For GOD sake Army Chief was addressing officers only a mute video is released on media.

 

[RAMPAGE]

For GOD sake Army Chief was addressing officers only a mute video is released on media.

So you can read lips, maulvi?

Prove your claim.

 

[Zarvan]

So you can read lips, maulvi?

Prove your claim.

Army officer who was in that hall listening to General Raheel Shareef has told a friend this. I am also trying to confirm it from other sources.