Delhi Assembly resolves to give martyr status to slain NDMC officer

[The_Showstopper]

When there is no development, there is nothing to rubbish.
Like I asked, please let me know one school, one hospital, one bridge, one road, one area of Infra development in electricity or water that they have carried out or they have plans to carry out.

And the point is fair...You see Kejru always does Jumlas. Just like how he just Jumlaed on having a letter that proves Mahesh Giri as a murderer.
This is not an isolated incident. This is the norm for Jumla Kejru. He shouts without proof and runs away.
So, if Kejru or you can provide the letter that Kejru so callously paraded to the world as proof Giri being a murderer, please share it with us.

The problem you have is that kejri is a liar and Jumla man. You don't have the letter which you are basing your argument on.
Instead of addressing the issue of kejru lying through his teeth, you will keep diverting.

Simple question: Kejri claimed to have letter of Giri to prove that he is a murderer. Either show the letter or Kejru should accept he lied and resign for the sake of everyone.

Here is one...

AAP ka flyover: Arvind Kejriwal completes project at Rs 100 crore below cost; Union minister Venkaiah Naidu praises effort

Source: http://www.india.com/news/india/aap...inister-venkaiah-naidu-praises-effort-697374/

 

[DesiGuy1403]

Here is one...

AAP ka flyover: Arvind Kejriwal completes project at Rs 100 crore below cost; Union minister Venkaiah Naidu praises effort

Source: http://www.india.com/news/india/aap-ka-flyover-arvind-kejriwal-completes-project-at-rs-100-crore-below-cost-union-minister-venkaiah-naidu-praises-effort-697374/

The first line in the article states as follows..

The project was sanctioned Rs 247 crores by the Shiela Dixit government

In fact, work for this had started under Shiela Dixit...I wonder what your response would be for Modi taking COMPLETE credit for bridges and roads constructed under MMS...

You guys can't even verify your Jumlas properly...Pathetic really!!

In fact, before AAP took over thr project was 68% complete with expenditure of 94 crores...Not sure why kejri is boasting here when the saving had already happened before Kejri came to power..Oh..this is not some Bhakth saying, it is straight from mouth of Apporv misra, the project in charge.

So, please peddle lies somewhere else..

Like I asked, show one NEW infra AAp has started..

 

[The_Showstopper]

The first line in the article states as follows..

The project was sanctioned Rs 247 crores by the Shiela Dixit government

In fact, work for this had started under Shiela Dixit...I wonder what your response would be for Modi taking COMPLETE credit for bridges and roads constructed under MMS...

You guys can't even verify your Jumlas properly...Pathetic really!!

In fact, before AAP took over thr project was 68% complete with expenditure of 94 crores...Not sure why kejri is boasting here when the saving had already happened before Kejri came to power..Oh..this is not some Bhakth saying, it is straight from mouth of Apporv misra, the project in charge.

So, please peddle lies somewhere else..

Like I asked, show one NEW infra AAp has started..

Show me a source which states that 68% was completed with expenditure of 94 crores during Congress government....

 

[DesiGuy1403]

Show me a source which states that 68% was completed with expenditure of 94 crores during Congress government....

It was available on PWD website.
Check Quora, you will get the details. Check the source and tweets.

https://www.quora.com/What-do-you-t...roject-with-100-Crore-less-the-estimated-cost

Apart from this..

You still have not answered my question of what AAP has started in terms of NEW infra. You conveniently sidestep this!!

 

[The_Showstopper]

It was available on PWD website.
Check Quora, you will get the details. Check the source and tweets.

https://www.quora.com/What-do-you-t...roject-with-100-Crore-less-the-estimated-cost

Apart from this..

You still have not answered my question of what AAP has started in terms of NEW infra. You conveniently sidestep this!!

LOL your source states as follows...

The flyover was 20% done during the Sheila regime and thereafter got stalled. The remaining 80% of work was done during the AAP tenure using the single pillar technology which helped save the money by 20%. Even if we disregard the 20% of the original 250 Crore, 50 Crore more was saved perhaps because of efficient execution of the project.

I have seen how such constructions go on for years and years and the cost keeps on increasing. Even BJP MP Venkaiyah Naidu was surprized that a flyover project was finished within the time frame and well within the allocated budget.

Mr Kejriwal shared credit with his predecessor Sheila Dikshit, who led three successive Congress governments in Delhi. "Sheila Dikshit started the project. It was 20-30 per cent finished when our government took over," he said.

 

[DesiGuy1403]

LOL your source states as follows...

The flyover was 20% done during the Sheila regime and thereafter got stalled. The remaining 80% of work was done during the AAP tenure using the single pillar technology which helped save the money by 20%. Even if we disregard the 20% of the original 250 Crore, 50 Crore more was saved perhaps because of efficient execution of the project.

I have seen how such constructions go on for years and years and the cost keeps on increasing. Even BJP MP Venkaiyah Naidu was surprized that a flyover project was finished within the time frame and well within the allocated budget.

In quora, you MUST read all the posts, not just the ones posted by AAPtards...Take your time please, I am tired of proving you wrong all the time..

Anyway, even if it is 20%...how does that change anything? It was a project not started by kejri...Not sure how you can attribute that to Kejri alone?
fact is, it was 68% done and money was saved much before kejri came to power, so, kejri did nothing and saved nothing. It was saved by people who were involved in the project, the PWD people..

 

[The_Showstopper]

In quora, you MUST read all the posts, not just the ones posted by AAPtards...Take your time please, I am tired of proving you wrong all the time..

Anyway, even if it is 20%...how does that change anything? It was a project not started by kejri...Not sure how you can attribute that to Kejri alone?
fact is, it was 68% done and money was saved much before kejri came to power, so, kejri did nothing and saved nothing. It was saved by people who were involved in the project, the PWD people..

Clutching at straws....

 

[DesiGuy1403]

Clutching at straws....

That's your forte

You have not showed me one infra project started by kejri...
when pushed you showed one project which was started by Shiela and was 68% complete with loads of money saved as an achievement of kejru.

So, the original question still remains...WHAT INFRA PROJECTS DID KEJRU START???

Now, please start clutching at straws or something else..

 

[unbiasedopinion]

You prove my point.. Thanks

May be not every soldier deserves a martyr status but when someone goes the extra mile without caring for his/her life, he/she deserves this status and that is what has happened here.

Only thing which is proven is that your whole logic is without facts and it is mere hearsay.

In quora, you MUST read all the posts, not just the ones posted by AAPtards...Take your time please, I am tired of proving you wrong all the time..

Anyway, even if it is 20%...how does that change anything? It was a project not started by kejri...Not sure how you can attribute that to Kejri alone?
fact is, it was 68% done and money was saved much before kejri came to power, so, kejri did nothing and saved nothing. It was saved by people who were involved in the project, the PWD people..

Some money can be save through proper management. So may be kejri has some credit to it. Please note the word some, not all or major.

Mr Kejriwal shared credit with his predecessor Sheila Dikshit, who led three successive Congress governments in Delhi. "Sheila Dikshit started the project. It was 20-30 per cent finished when our government took over," he said

Shiela lost because of anger against central leadership of congress and no action by them against CWC corruption. Otherwise there was no reason for her to loose in Delhi. She did lot of infra work in Delhi without doubt.

I still have to see any major infra announcement and work by Kejri as state government. All the infra work which is now a days getting completed is congress government legacy. Even the metrino project is announced by Central Government. Kejri is in the news for all the wrong reasons for sometime now.

The remaining 80% of work was done during the AAP tenure using the single pillar technology which helped save the money by 20%.

Are you saying the technology changed to single pillar when the 20% of the project is already executed?

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Still the garbage is on the roads. No Electricity has been waivered. No piped water connections, nor even the works have been started.

On top of this, he is giving connections to illegal colonies.
Now tell me, I paid premium amount to get my small property in a registered legal colony 15 years back. We saved money to get the required sum. and now even those colonies which are illegal, does not follow any safety norms, are not regularized are being given the water connection, electricity etc and thus paving a way for them to get legalized and regularized stamp. These colonies were setup at half the prices of regularized colonies. Now the person who has purchased the regularized colony is feeling cheated because now every basic amenity is present in these illegal colonies too, so why he has paid the premium earlier? Totally flawed policy just for garning votes.
Tell me, how many roads have he cleared of encroachment after coming to powers?
He has pushed the electric rickshaw in the city when the traffic police was not ready to allow them due to security concerns. Has AK seen how these rickshaws ply on these roads? They don't follow any traffic rule.

Unlike U? Let's not get personal? I just pointed out his performance and how people rated it. His chorus is not for nothing, You may claim that he has done nothing right but Delhites have a different say on it. He has done good work and people agree to it and I posted many such threads which speaks of AAP's work in Delhi. Some of the work needs more time so please give him that and more over he does not control MCD. His work is being obstructed by centre and many bills are still pending clearance..

No new bills this session as Centre sitting on 14 bills: Sisodia

Source : http://www.news18.com/news/politics...ntre-sitting-on-14-bills-sisodia-1219861.html

L-G Najeeb Jung urges Centre to clear Delhi’s legislative bills

Source : http://www.hindustantimes.com/delhi...ative-bills/story-x8Rro15jIdELkQfDEWxg6J.html


And even the Delhites agree to the fact that his work is being obstructed by Centre and the below excerpt proves my point.

"A majority concur with the CM Kejriwal when he says that the centre is obstructing work."

Source : http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...ar-report-card-thumbs-up-to-aap/1/594823.html

Well the PM is replying through obstructing his work and making his job much harder.

THis is something we Delhi walas will judge. What he needs to concentrate on doing work, rather than posting stupid remarks on PM daily on twitter and facebook.
He is the true Dehati Aurat, cribbing for almost everything even though he is CM of a state.

 

[The_Showstopper]

Only thing which is proven is that your whole logic is without facts and it is mere hearsay.

Hearsay? You just claimed that you should also be declared martyr just because you pay taxes. LOL You also stated that soldiers are paid well for their sacrifices. Do care to go through your previous posts

Some money can be save through proper management. So may be kejri has some credit to it. Please note the word some, not all or major.

The bottom line is that the flyover was constructed under his tenure and his management.

Shiela lost because of anger against central leadership of congress and no action by them against CWC corruption. Otherwise there was no reason for her to loose in Delhi. She did lot of infra work in Delhi without doubt.

Well no one is denying that she did good infra work, but she also had time to accomplish those projects.

I still have to see any major infra announcement and work by Kejri as state government. All the infra work which is now a days getting completed is congress government legacy. Even the metrino project is announced by Central Government. Kejri is in the news for all the wrong reasons for sometime now.

Development is not all about infrastructure. If this is how the existing infrastructure looks like

Its Tripura Highway...

Then its better to work on existing projects and make them better and this is what Dy CM of Delhi has in mind..

Deputy CM Manish Sisodia says maintenance of the existing infrastructure and street-scaping work will be prioritised.

Source: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...use-flyover-kalindi-kunj-bypass/1/423908.html

Are you saying the technology changed to single pillar when the 20% of the project is already executed?

No its not my statement, I quoted you an article, please go through it

 

[DesiGuy1403]

Hearsay? You just claimed that you should also be declared martyr just because you pay taxes. LOL You also stated that soldiers are paid well for their sacrifices. Do care to go through your previous posts


The bottom line is that the flyover was constructed under his tenure and his management.


Well no one is denying that she did good infra work, but she also had time to accomplish those projects.


Development is not all about infrastructure. If this how the existing infrastructure looks like

Its Tripura Highway...

Then its better to work on existing projects and make them better and this is what Dy CM of Delhi has in mind..

Deputy CM Manish Sisodia says maintenance of the existing infrastructure and street-scaping work will be prioritised.

Source: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...use-flyover-kalindi-kunj-bypass/1/423908.html


No its not my statement, I quoted you an article, please go through it

That's exactly why when we say martyr, we talk about people who laid down their lives in defence of nation.

Everyone strives in their life, in their fields to serve the nation and in turn uplift their family.
BUT
Only soldiers make the ultimate sacrifice, hence the status of a martyr.

The difference between a soldier and a normal person who dies during the duty is that the Soldier knows he is going die, has made peace with it and faces the bullets.
While the normal persons sacrifice is meaningful, we will go down to a grey area.

For example, I will demand martyrdom to Dr Narang, who was killed in front of his kids while trying to defend his family.
Is his contribution to society any less than Khan's? Is his death any less meaningful?
So, you see, when we go down this rhetoric path, it becomes that much more difficult to justify.

Coming to Sisodia and development....that's shows the political immaturity of AAP. Frankly, development means spending money on things that will improve lives of people in Delhi, while providing job opportunities for people of Delhi. Infra is a major source for that. For Sisodia to say the crap he has said means AAP has already failed in all spheres.

 

[The_Showstopper]

THis is something we Delhi walas will judge. What he needs to concentrate on doing work, rather than posting stupid remarks on PM daily on twitter and facebook.
He is the true Dehati Aurat, cribbing for almost everything even though he is CM of a state.

Well Delhiwalas have already judged after a short stint of AAP and decided to give AAP an astounding majority. Looks like Delhiwalas are still happy with AAP after one year completion whose proof I've already posted.

Anyways why not ask your native Hawaaizada to stop obstructing AAP's work so that these unpleasant exchanges can end..

 

[DesiGuy1403]

Well Delhiwalas have already judged after a short stint of AAP and decided to give AAP astounding majority. Looks like Delhiwalas are still happy with AAP after one year completion. Why not ask our native Hawaaizada to stop obstructing AAP's work so that these exchanges can end..

Sorry to burst your AAPbubble but recent MCD elections were a kick in the backside for kejriwal.

You can deny it all you want but the fact is in one year, Delhi people are vexed with ineptness of AAP and Kejriwal and have given him an indication in MCD elections.

You can continue in the same vein but I doubt AAP will survive beyond this term anywhere in India if all they have is rhetoric and abuse..

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Hearsay? You just claimed that you should also be declared martyr just because you pay taxes. LOL You also stated that soldiers are paid well for their sacrifices. Do care to go through your previous posts

Sorry but you are just playing with the words but not providing any fact to support your claim that AAP is not doing this for politics and what is the basis of giving martyr status to this individual?

he bottom line is that the flyover was constructed under his tenure and his management.

Bottom line is you are blind for AAP. That is typical mentality of taking credit of others, which AAP is showing very well on TVs. I am sorry that I supported and voted and even convinced many others to vote for AAP. They are not doing any good for delhi by taking an open fight with Center. We have voted them to work in synergy with center for the benefit of Delhi and present a working model for others to follow, but seems Kejriwal is too immature to handle it.

Its Tripura Highway...

Irrelevant post. We are talking about Delhi, not any other state. Typical mentality of diverging topic just to prove point and pasting irrelevant stuff.

Deputy CM Manish Sisodia says maintenance of the existing infrastructure and street-scaping work will be prioritised.

I guess he didnt say to stop building new infrastructure or are you saying that he means only work on maintenance? Every infrastructure has its life. The flyover built 25 years ago with life span of 30 years needs to be replaced in 5 years, hence its planning and process should have started by now. This is new infrastructure implementation which includes planning phase too. If any government is not thinking on these lines then it is seriously not doing its job properly.

Well Delhiwalas have already judged after a short stint of AAP and decided to give AAP an astounding majority. Looks like Delhiwalas are still happy with AAP after one year completion whose proof I've already posted.

Anyways why not ask your native Hawaaizada to stop obstructing AAP's work so that these unpleasant exchanges can end..

I will ask questions relevant to Modi where ever i feel it is important. If he posts stupid remarks in more visible manner, then i will definitely ask these questions.
What is the need for AAP or more precisely Kejriwal to target PM or have personal ambition of becoming PM in not even one tenure of CM( and now he is also not acting as working CM, he is more like a deputy CM, whereas deputy CM is actually doing all the work, Kejriwal is busy doing all the other works which a CM should not be doing.).