Delhi Assembly resolves to give martyr status to slain NDMC officer

[Rajaraja Chola]

Did he not get killed by India's internal enemies?

Was he the only Police to get killed by Indian Internal enemies? For Effing God Sake. Keep appeasement out.

AAP is not a party with a difference. But a Party with Dramatist with Zero knowledge of rules and regulation of law. If they receive a complaint, they do not even know what to do, how to proceed.

 

[The_Showstopper]

Are you saying not everyone working for the country? I am working my bit for the country by paying taxes which almost 98% of population is not paying. I am abiding by every single law which almost most people dont follow. I drive in my lane , hearing lots of abuses from other drivers, so i am kind of my own. So i am doing something for the country. Will i get a martyr status? Never, untill I am either a muslim or my death gives a brownie point to some politician.

I am getting sick of this AAP politics. We have sent AK to work for the better ment of Delhi, he is in the news for all the wrong reasons. People votes AAP because of Arvind Kejriwal, not because of other 66 MLA. Any stupid act by this party will be considered as an act by AK and in fact it is this stupid guy AK who is doing circus.

Did you put your life on line? Did you go the extra mile even after knowing that they are individuals who will cause you mortal harm? What you state is something every individual does.. This man knowing that his life could be danger went ahead to protect our country's interests, something a soldier does on border. He deserves every bit of it.

Don't they all ? I mean "Martyrs" irrespective of Religion.

Indeed every individual irrespective of religion deserves, When did I say, they don't? Why pick out just this instance?

Was he the only Police to get killed by Indian Internal enemies? For Effing God Sake. Keep appeasement out.

AAP is not a party with a difference. But a Party with Dramatist with Zero knowledge of rules and regulation of law. If they receive a complaint, they do not even know what to do, how to proceed.

He wasn't a police officer, he was a legal officer. Just read the following news article.

http://www.firstpost.com/india/mm-k...kkar-ravinder-gupta-delhi-murder-2789372.html
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...-say-family-and-colleagues/article8613352.ece

And AAP has previously given similar kind of statements/help to others as well. And I already posted one such link earlier in the thread. I am not sure why you have such dislike/hatred for AAP, but many believe that they are doing a good work of course they try to grab headlines(Well they don't have deep pockets like other parties).

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Did you put your life on line? Did you go the extra mile even after knowing that they are individuals who will cause you mortal harm? What you state is something every individual does.. This man knowing that his life could be danger went ahead to protect our country's interests, something a soldier does on border. He deserves every bit of it.


Indeed every individual irrespective of religion deserves, When did I say, they don't? Why pick out just this instance?


He wasn't a police officer, he was a legal officer. Just read the following news article.

http://www.firstpost.com/india/mm-k...kkar-ravinder-gupta-delhi-murder-2789372.html
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...-say-family-and-colleagues/article8613352.ece

And AAP has previously given similar kind of statements/help to others as well. And I already posted one such link earlier in the thread. I am not sure why you have such dislike/hatred for AAP, but many believe that they are doing a good work of course they try to grab headlines(Well they don't have deep pockets like other parties).

I dont know. Martyr is a one who died defending an nation or innocent people. I thought he was Police.
Other officials can be given depending upon the event. To be honest, this event does not evoke the status of Martyr.

I dont care what the AAP does. They do everything other than governing. They managed to convince an AAP supporter like me that they are like a circus clowns, amusing others, not knowing what to do.

 

[Jamwal's]

Did you put your life on line? Did you go the extra mile even after knowing that they are individuals who will cause you mortal harm? What you state is something every individual does.. This man knowing that his life could be danger went ahead to protect our country's interests, something a soldier does on border. He deserves every bit of it.


Indeed every individual irrespective of religion deserves, When did I say, they don't? Why pick out just this instance?


He wasn't a police officer, he was a legal officer. Just read the following news article.

http://www.firstpost.com/india/mm-k...kkar-ravinder-gupta-delhi-murder-2789372.html
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...-say-family-and-colleagues/article8613352.ece

And AAP has previously given similar kind of statements/help to others as well. And I already posted one such link earlier in the thread. I am not sure why you have such dislike/hatred for AAP, but many believe that they are doing a good work of course they try to grab headlines(Well they don't have deep pockets like other parties).

Nothing just trying to relate with DSP Haq and NIA Inspector Khan. The family of Haq demanded two Govt services one for the brother and one for the wife although the law only provides for one.

I am not questioning the financial help which amounted which was also more than, whatever sanction to the simily cases.

Similar the case with Khan whose relatives protested and demanded for more money since he belonged to minority. Even though BSF will take care of his kids.


So what's your opinion on this ?

 

[MULUBJA]

Delhi Assembly resolves to give martyr status to slain NDMC officer
Kejriwal and Leader of Opposition Vijender Gupta had a brief face-off while the assembly discussed Khan’s killing.

The Delhi Assembly Monday resolved to give slain NDMC officer M M Khan the status of a martyr. “The financial condition of his family is weak. He had two years before retirement. He could not pay his children’s fees and he still refused such a hefty bribe. What greater proof of honesty do we need? We have seen such things only in movies,” said Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal.

Kejriwal and Leader of Opposition Vijender Gupta had a brief face-off while the assembly discussed Khan’s killing.

AAP MLAs said NDMC vice-chairman Karan Singh Tanwar should be questioned by police in the case. “We are not saying who is guilty and who is not. But shouldn’t there be an investigation at least?… He (Tanwar) is close to the union home minister. The impartiality of the probe is being questioned,” said Kejriwal.

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Gupta said the culprits who killed Khan should be hanged. However, he alleged that AAP was not interested in the culprits but in politicising the issue .”

They do not know who is right and who is wrong still they want to give him Martyr status. AAP seem to be working overt time to fool the Muslims to make them their vote bank who will never seek the accounts of the work he did for them but would like to remain in fool's paradise.

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Did you put your life on line? Did you go the extra mile even after knowing that they are individuals who will cause you mortal harm? What you state is something every individual does.. This man knowing that his life could be danger went ahead to protect our country's interests, something a soldier does on border. He deserves every bit of it.

Ok..Lets not get into this argument of whose work is more important than others. I dont want to get into these silly stuff as I can argue to a length where you will have no answers.

Regarding the bold part. No, not every individual pays tax like me.

I have no problem with martyr status to a deserved one, but i have a problem when these noble words are used for politics. I have problem when a particular community is being showcased as a victim and others are not. I have problem with the dual face of politics which every party plays here when they come to power.

 

[The_Showstopper]

Ok..Lets not get into this argument of whose work is more important than others. I dont want to get into these silly stuff as I can argue to a length where you will have no answers.

Regarding the bold part. No, not every individual pays tax like me.

I have no problem with martyr status to a deserved one, but i have a problem when these noble words are used for politics. I have problem when a particular community is being showcased as a victim and others are not. I have problem with the dual face of politics which every party plays here when they come to power.

May be not every individual pays taxes, its wrong on their part. But anyone paying taxes aren't doing any favour.

So just tell me, Does this guy deserve to be called a martyr or not? Where in the OP/posts does it indicate that a particular community is being showcased as a victim? People from different communities died and were called martyrs for their service, so why this hullabaloo over this?

They do not know who is right and who is wrong still they want to give him Martyr status. AAP seem to be working overt time to fool the Muslims to make them their vote bank who will never seek the accounts of the work he did for them but would like to remain in fool's paradise.

And why should he not be called a martyr? Please explain...

 

[unbiasedopinion]

May be not every individual pays taxes, its wrong on their part. But anyone paying taxes aren't doing any favour.

So just tell me, Does this guy deserve to be called a martyr or not? Where in the OP/posts does it indicate that a particular community is being showcased as a victim? People from different communities died and were called martyrs for their service, so why this hullabaloo over this?

Well, if more than 96% are not paying taxes then definitely those remaining 4% who are paying are worth doing favor on others. Yes, we are doing favor, on those atleast who can pay taxes but are hiding the facts or exempted because of various castes, farmers, etc etc...

 

[The_Showstopper]

Nothing just trying to relate with DSP Haq and NIA Inspector Khan. The family of Haq demanded two Govt services one for the brother and one for the wife although the law only provides for one.

I am not questioning the financial help which amounted which was also more than, whatever sanction to the simily cases.

Similar the case with Khan whose relatives protested and demanded for more money since he belonged to minority. Even though BSF will take care of his kids.


So what's your opinion on this ?

Is it the first time that some one has demanded more compensation? Well the answer is NO. The following excerpts along with links vindicate my point.....

Compensation Paid as per Rules’

Law and Parliamentary Affairs minister T B Jayachandra, reacting to the demand for compensation, said ex-gratia had already been paid as per service rules and it will obviously go to his wife Kusuma, who is the nominee.

Source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-demand-compensation/articleshow/49620953.cms

Sarabjit’s family was awarded Rs 1 crore compensation, the Centre gave an ex-gratia of Rs 25 lakh from the PM’s relief fund and his two daughters were given Government jobs whereas on the other hand, Chamail Singh’s family has not been paid even a single penny nor was any job offered to his sons.

Source: http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/chama...-pm-for-granting-martyrs-status-compensation/

So why did Sarabjit’s family members get rewarded and sarabjit declared martyr? He was just a farmer by his own admission accidentally landed in Pakistan.

Also show me source where Khan's family that they need more compensation because they belonged to minority community.

Well, if more than 96% are not paying taxes then definitely those remaining 4% who are paying are worth doing favor on others. Yes, we are doing favor, on those atleast who can pay taxes but are hiding the facts or exempted because of various castes, farmers, etc etc...

So just because you pay taxes and the rest don't, You become a martyr?

If you are paying taxes, then you are just doing your duty and not doing a favour...

I dont know. Martyr is a one who died defending an nation or innocent people. I thought he was Police.
Other officials can be given depending upon the event. To be honest, this event does not evoke the status of Martyr.

I dont care what the AAP does. They do everything other than governing. They managed to convince an AAP supporter like me that they are like a circus clowns, amusing others, not knowing what to do.

What's your take on Sarabjit being declared a martyr with 3 day mourning? He was just a farmer who accidentally landed in Pakistan and went on to become a scapegoat.

 

[Jamwal's]

Is it the first time that some one has demanded more compensation? Well the answer is NO. The following excerpts along with links vindicate my point.....

Compensation Paid as per Rules’

Law and Parliamentary Affairs minister T B Jayachandra, reacting to the demand for compensation, said ex-gratia had already been paid as per service rules and it will obviously go to his wife Kusuma, who is the nominee.

Source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-demand-compensation/articleshow/49620953.cms

Sarabjit’s family was awarded Rs 1 crore compensation, the Centre gave an ex-gratia of Rs 25 lakh from the PM’s relief fund and his two daughters were given Government jobs whereas on the other hand, Chamail Singh’s family has not been paid even a single penny nor was any job offered to his sons.

Source: http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/chama...-pm-for-granting-martyrs-status-compensation/

So why did Sarabjit’s family members get rewarded and sarabjit declared martyr? He was just a farmer by his own admission accidentally landed in Pakistan.

Also show me source where Khan's family that they need more compensation because they belonged to minority community.


So just because you pay taxes and the rest don't, You become a martyr?

If you are paying taxes, then you are just doing your duty and not doing a favour...


What's your take on Sarabjit being declared a martyr with 3 day mourning? He was just a farmer who accidentally landed in Pakistan and went on to become a scapegoat.

You are making a wrong analogy, Sarabjit was killed in Pak (allegedly a RAW agent died for the country).

On the other hand Khan was killed in family dispute.

Have you ever seen people questioning the financial help to martyrs ?

Recently, Sepoy Mushtaq Ahmad martyred in Siachen and state govt announced financial help to his family apart from Center.

Nobody makes it a issue.

 

[The_Showstopper]

You are making a wrong analogy, Sarabjit was killed in Pak (allegedly a RAW agent died for the country).

On the other hand Khan was killed in family dispute.

Have you ever seen people questioning the financial help to martyrs ?

Recently, Sepoy Mushtaq Ahmad martyred in Siachen and state govt announced financial help to his family apart from Center.

Nobody makes it a issue.

Was Sarabjit a RAW agent?

So just because Khan was killed because of personal enmity, does he not deserve compensation? I already posted sources where martyr's families have demanded more compensation.

 

[DesiGuy1403]

Dr Narang was killed in front of his little kid by Sickular gang. Kejriwal refused to meet the family, let alone offer monetary support.

But a person named "Khan" is killed, Kejriwal goes into hyper mode....

AAPtard "non sickulars" need to seriously relook at your bosses antics.

 

[MULUBJA]

May be not every individual pays taxes, its wrong on their part. But anyone paying taxes aren't doing any favour.

So just tell me, Does this guy deserve to be called a martyr or not? Where in the OP/posts does it indicate that a particular community is being showcased as a victim? People from different communities died and were called martyrs for their service, so why this hullabaloo over this?


And why should he not be called a martyr? Please explain...

Martyar is one who looses his life fighting for nation.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Is it the first time that some one has demanded more compensation? Well the answer is NO. The following excerpts along with links vindicate my point.....

Compensation Paid as per Rules’

Law and Parliamentary Affairs minister T B Jayachandra, reacting to the demand for compensation, said ex-gratia had already been paid as per service rules and it will obviously go to his wife Kusuma, who is the nominee.

Source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-demand-compensation/articleshow/49620953.cms

Sarabjit’s family was awarded Rs 1 crore compensation, the Centre gave an ex-gratia of Rs 25 lakh from the PM’s relief fund and his two daughters were given Government jobs whereas on the other hand, Chamail Singh’s family has not been paid even a single penny nor was any job offered to his sons.

Source: http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/chama...-pm-for-granting-martyrs-status-compensation/

So why did Sarabjit’s family members get rewarded and sarabjit declared martyr? He was just a farmer by his own admission accidentally landed in Pakistan.

Also show me source where Khan's family that they need more compensation because they belonged to minority community.


So just because you pay taxes and the rest don't, You become a martyr?

If you are paying taxes, then you are just doing your duty and not doing a favour...


What's your take on Sarabjit being declared a martyr with 3 day mourning? He was just a farmer who accidentally landed in Pakistan and went on to become a scapegoat.

Sarabjit was a RAW agent. Everyone knew it. The GoI officially admitting him as a spy will result in death for others languishing in jail as spy.
Comparing both scenarios are idiotic. As usual only AAP is capable of making idiotic news.

I dont know if BJP will kicked out in 2019. By the looks of it, AAP will be. No work has been done in development of Delhi. Just living in the same city as PM, does not make AK an equal.. Constantly attacking PM for every troubles..
Shameless. I am wondering myself how I had supported him.

 

[DesiGuy1403]

Shameless. I am wondering myself how I had supported him.

Join the club. Until 2014, I was one of his supporters as well.
He has been an utter disappointment.