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Some members complain that there is not enough defence related content being posted as of late.
If there are certain defence related threads you want to be started in the warfare sections please post the title and some aspects which you want to be highlighted.

Tag TT chairman / vice chairman and some of the title holders that you think are up for it.


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I will get the ball rolling
 
Type 45 vs Burke comparison

land attack capability, AAW role, anti ship/sub role, sensors, unit cost, missile variety , number of helis,spoffers and electronic jammers, internal protection and advanced damage control systems etc



@jhungary @SvenSvensonov
@Penguin @Horus @jaibi, @Oscar , @Secur , @slav-defence @Rashid Mahmood

lol strangely, i know pretty much more about Type 45 than AB flight 2, i have been physically on a all access guided tour with a Type 45 before and I have yet to be on a AB flight II...

I will post some photo on here later, now i am using my phone....
 
lol strangely, i know pretty much more about Type 45 than AB flight 2, i have been physically on a all access guided tour with a Type 45 before and I have yet to be on a AB flight II...

I will post some photo on here later, now i am using my phone....

Thankyou!
Take your time and please make a detailed thread in naval warfare section
regards
 
1st - Thanks for starting this Manticore. I've been one of the more bit**y people about the lack of defense topics and discussions. Too much politics, too much "my country is better than yours", too much everything except defense matters. So I welcome your initiative.

2nd - While I have nothing to add here as far as topics go, I'll start threads about my interests without a prompt (almost always on defense topics), I will offer my expertise and experience when requested. I'm well versed in naval electronics, communications systems, electronic warfare and electronic security. My interest go beyond these topics though and I will from time to time post articles I find interesting in the warfare sections.

3rd - One of my greatest problems is the need to compare things, we shouldn't do that, it's worthless. Also, the amount of wrong or source less information that floats around is pitiful too. I hope people start providing sources with their claims and not rely on speculation, "I read it somewhere else", or their own opinion. Post facts guys, it makes life better.

If you can't support a claim, stop making it.

Jhungary and I, do our part, I would welcome anyone else who can contribute as well.
 
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Some members complain that there is not enough defence related content being posted as of late.
If there are certain defence related threads you want to be started in the warfare sections please post the title and some aspects which you want to be highlighted.

Tag TT chairman / vice chairman and some of the title holders that you think are up for it.


----
Professionals , Think tank analysts/consultants , mods/admin can be tagged

AlpErTunga
asad71
gambit
jhungary
Joe Shearer
Rashid Mahmood

500
A1Kaid
Aamna14
ajpirzada
Arsalan
AUSTERLITZ
Azlan Haider
balixd
cabatli_53
Casus Belli
Chinese-Dragon
DaRk WaVe
Dazzler
Developereo
Dillinger
Donatello
fatman17
FaujHistorian
forcetrip
F.O.X
Indos
Jessica_L
KAL-EL
Last Hope
Luftwaffe
mafiya
Munir
Najam Khan
niaz
Penguin
sancho
sandy_3126
Secur
siegecrossbow
Slav Defence
SpArK
S.U.R.B.
Tempest II
That Guy
The Deterrent
TOPGUN
TruthSeeker
vostok
Wholegrain
Xeric




I will start the ball rolling
since when MBI Munshi has started defence related topic discussion ?
 
1st - Thanks for starting this Manticore. I've been one of the more bit**y people about the lack of defense topics and discussions. Too much politics, too much "my country is better than yours", too much everything except defense matters. So I welcome your initiative.

2nd - While I have nothing to add here, I'll start threads about my interests without a prompt (almost always on defense topics), I will offer my expertise and experience when requested. I'm well versed in naval electronics, communications systems, electronic warfare and electronic security. My interest go beyond these topics though and I will from time to time post articles I find interesting in the warfare sections.

3rd - One of my greatest problems is the need to compare things, we shouldn't do that, it's worthless. Also, the amount of wrong or source less information that floats around is pitiful too. I hope people start providing sources with their claims and not rely on speculation, "I read it somewhere else", or their own opinion. Post facts guys, it makes life better.

Jhungary and I, do our part, I would welcome anyone else who can contribute as well.
Thankyou for your reply. I hope members will now ask interesting titles related to your field. Our naval section is the least developed section and that was the reason I started this thread with a naval title request.
Regards
 
lol strangely, i know pretty much more about Type 45 than AB flight 2, i have been physically on a all access guided tour with a Type 45 before and I have yet to be on a AB flight II...

I will post some photo on here later, now i am using my phone....
Time to change your phone sire. :P
Okay...no kidding this time.
Do you know more about the combat net radio systems? or the SOTMs and other specialist military applications?
 
I would like to know about the RATIO of Rocket Artilerry to Tube Artilerry in a Artilerry regiment

Do you have a specific military in mind? Each military will have different requirements due to their different needs, objectives and philosophies. For the US, rocket artillery and tube artillery (howitzers and mortars) are assigned different roles and to different regiments or divisions. We operation on a "need" basis and change our ratios based on the requirements of a battlefield.

We don't use rocket artillery in cities, but mortars are going to do the job very effectively. Conversely, rockets are very effective against enemy armor, but mortars are near useless. Different requirements lead to different regimental outlooks in different militaries.

If you have a specific military in mind, please let me know.

However, this is the typical outlook for a US artillery group:

Artillery Groups.

  • Temporary, mission-oriented groups are a command and organizational structure that ensure flexibility in concentrating artillery fire. The commander and staff of the artillery brigade or battalion usually form the core of the group.

  • The goal of forming artillery groups is to provide ample fire support to the maneuver commander to conduct an operation. Army, corps, division, and brigade artillery groups provide continuous artillery support to maneuver commanders with the required degree of centralized control.

  • Artillery groups usually consist of at least two battalions of field guns, howitzers, gun-howitzers, and/or MRLs.

  • Artillery groups will disperse as much as possible to avoid becoming a target for BLUFOR precision weapons, air attack, and counterfire.
(1) Army Artillery Group (AAG).

  • Army group artillery assets distributed to committed armies in proportion to the importance of the assigned task.

  • Formed from army and/or army group artillery battalions remaining after the army has allocated artillery to its first echelon divisions.

  • Tasks are counterfire and the deep target engagement (precision weapons, headquarters, air defenses, and reserve).

  • An army may form more than one AAG.

  • Composed of at least two battalions.

  • Normally composed of gun and/or rocket launcher battalions.
(2) Army Rocket Artillery Group (ARAG).

  • Formed from army and/or army group MRL brigades.

  • Composed of three to seven MRL brigades.

  • Normally fires under centralized control in support of the army’s main attack axis.
(3) Division Artillery Group (DAG).

  • Formed from division artillery regiment and any allocated army/front artillery battalions after the division has allocated artillery to its first echelon brigades.

  • More than one DAG may be formed per division.

  • Normally has counterbattery mission.

  • Composed of two to six battalions.

  • May have gun, gun-howitzer, howitzer, and rocket launcher battalion.

  • Divisional rocket launcher battalion is normally assigned to a DAG.
(4) Brigade Artillery Group (BRAG).

  • Formed from the brigade artillery battalion plus at least one other battalion allocated to the regiment from division.

  • Only one BRAG per brigade.

  • Normally provides fires in support of maneuver elements.

  • Composed of howitzer or gun-howitzer battalions.

  • Has from two to four battalions.
(5) Artillery Support to Maneuver Battalion.

  • An artillery battalion or battery may be directly attached to a maneuver battalion. These artillery units will not be part of any artillery group.
f. Artillery Command Relationships.

Attached - The maneuver commander has total control of the unit.

Supporting - The parent artillery organization retains control, but delegates fires to a unit.

g. Target Damage Criteria.

(1) Annihilation.

  • Renders unobserved targets combat-ineffective.

  • Against a point target, sufficient rounds will be expended to assure a 70 to 90% probability of a kill.

  • Against an area target, sufficient rounds will be expended to destroy 50 to 60% of the targets within the group.
(2) Destruction.

  • A subset of annihilation.

  • Refers to engineer works such as fortifications and bridges.

  • Renders targets unfit for further use.
(3) Neutralization.

  • Inflicts enough losses on a target to cause it to temporarily lose its combat effectiveness, restrict or prohibit its maneuver or disrupt its C2.

  • Sufficient rounds must be expended to destroy 30% of unobserved targets.
(4) Harassment.

  • Limited fires designed to apply psychological pressure on the BLUFOR and hinder movement.

  • Inhibits maneuver

  • Weakens blue combat readiness and lowers morale
 
I don't know if this is the correct place or question........

My questions are regarding Maoist insurgency in India.

1)Why doesn't the GoI go all out against them ?
2)Do they enjoy local people's support ?
3)Do we lack the required equipment and expertise to tackle them ?
4)What are we waiting for , what scenario ( comparable to 26/11 or 9/11 ) will force us to react ?
5)Why are we not so sensitive regarding the deaths of CRPF jawans , police , CoBRA's by the Maoist ?
6)Many people in India and this forum treat them as "criminals" and not as "terrorists" , what is this assertion based on ?
I mean they are fighting against our state.
7)How can our politicians allow them to control swathes of land ?


According to me government should adopt 3 pronged strategy. Give them a warning and bring some factions to negotiating table. Launch all out war against remaining, and simultaneously pay special attention to development in these areas.

edit : what kind of warfare and strategy the experts would suggest to exterminate the naxals ?
 
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