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Defeat of Sikh army and death of Hari Singh Nalwa in battle of Jamrud

Jatts were higher ranking officers in the army, that's why Haryana has so many Hindu Jat zamindars because they were high ranking, same with Sikh Jatts.

Poor attempt at inventing new excuse which one can't explain. Hindu jatts of Haryana were well hindus so its expected.
 
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but then anyone can come and visit our holiest places.. no bar religion or caste..jatt is a race not cast.. and as I said casteism is cultural and not religious.

this is what guru nanak said.. manas kee jaat sabay eko pehchanyo.....means whole mankind is one and equal.

while as far as muslim religious books they propagate us believer and them kafirs

First allow mazhabbi sikhs in to Gurdawaras before allowing non-sikhs. First you guys need to treat your own fellow sikhs with respect.
 
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A sikh once told me why they are not allowed to smoke. one of their gurus were riding a horse next to tobbaco field and the horse stopped. it refused to move. their guru said if a horse will not walk along a tobbaco field then it is not suitable to smoke for humans.

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sikhi logic
 
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First allow mazhabbi sikhs in to Gurdawaras before allowing non-sikhs. First you guys need to treat your own fellow sikhs with respect.
all religions have some bad apples.. but some religions especially religions born in middle east strive for more and more followers and teach us versus them.. this is what Sikhism teaches


A sikh once told me why they are not allowed to smoke. one of their gurus were riding a horse next to tobbaco field and the horse stopped. it refused to move. their guru said if a horse will not walk along a tobbaco field then it is not suitable to smoke for humans.

:lol:

sikhi logic

islam teaches you takiya .. you are good muslim.. keep lieing
 
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You are insulting all the great warriors who sacrificed their lives just to ensure that no one invades india again and even if someone does he may know its consequences.

Regarding the alliance that was never possible a descendant of dost Mohammad when in exile was passing from gujranwala when he came to know that Nalwa Sardars family lives here he told the British officials to arrange a meeting you know what did the head of nalwa family told the officials " the descendants of Sardar hari singh cannot meet the descendant of dost Mohammed on a railways station the only place where the descendants of Sardar hari singh can meet descendants of dost Mohammed is on the battle field" .

It's not an insult. Taking and securing the Indus was security enough. Taking the lands west of Indus are a liability for any nation. That land is better left with Afghanistan. Experienced generals like Akali Phula Singh and Hari Singh Nalwa would have been better utilized in defending the border with the British. British were a bigger threat than anyone else.

And there is no doubt Hari Singh Nalwa's family would NOT have done such a low class thing as you have mentioned. Even Maharaja Ranjit Singh had no problem meeting with Shah Shuja who was descendent of Abdali himself. Hari Singh Nalwa himself was a highly trained diplomat who was proficient in Farsi and would meet the British and Afghans delegates when they would visit Lahore.
 
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It's not written in the Guru Granth Sahib, it's merely a story stated about him that some people can choose to believe however most don't. It's very different to the actions of Muhammed which have been recorded directly into the Koran.

Most incidents about the Prophet PBUH come from the Hadith. Anyway saying most sikhs don't when it shows up on every relevant sikh website after a simple google search is nothing more than a farce. You must be one of those sikhs who are ashamed of their heritage, do you even keep the pagri? :lol:
 
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A sikh once told me why they are not allowed to smoke. one of their gurus were riding a horse next to tobbaco field and the horse stopped. it refused to move. their guru said if a horse will not walk along a tobbaco field then it is not suitable to smoke for humans.

:lol:

sikhi logic
It's because a lower arain farmer had touched the tobacco while working for his Jatt master hence making the tobacco dirty and filthy.

Most incidents about the Prophet PBUH come from the Hadith. Anyway saying most sikhs don't when it shows up on every relevant sikh website after a simple google search is nothing more than a farce. You must be one of those sikhs who are ashamed of their heritage, do you even keep the pagri? :lol:
:lol:

It's a story, most don't believe on it. If it's not in the Guru Granth Sahib then it's not a part of his life. Just because it is on a couple of Sikh websites doesn't make it an absolute truth. It's mainly used to attract converts from Islam since they like these type of superstitious stories.;)
 
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Most incidents about the Prophet PBUH come from the Hadith. Anyway saying most sikhs don't when it shows up on every relevant sikh website after a simple google search is nothing more than a farce. You must be one of those sikhs who are ashamed of their heritage, do you even keep the pagri? :lol:

hey dude your islam really is not a good religion.. its not us who is saying this.. go ask any non muslim person.. I know its hard to digest the truth for you.. but I wont go mud slinging on your religion.. that shabd I posted had changed my mood .. i m gonna listen to some kirtan.. you go read kuran.. ciao

It's because a lower arain farmer had touched the tobacco while working for his Jatt master hence making the tobacco dirty and filthy.


:lol:

It's a story, most don't believe on it. If it's not in the Guru Granth Sahib then it's not a part of his life. Just because it is on a couple of Sikh websites doesn't make it an absolute truth. It's mainly used to attract converts from Islam since they like these type of superstitious stories.;)
chad yara anah nal time waste nah kar.. kithay assi Sikh ya tay kithay eh muslim.. leave it
 
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It's because a lower arain farmer had touched the tobacco while working for his Jatt master hence making the tobacco dirty and filthy.

Chal oy churaya. Arain'aa da naa lya...ja avda mun toh ke aa saban naal. Twade sardar'a kolon inni mashk aundi twade lagay te kutta vi ne nang da.
 
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Chal oy churaya. Arain'aa da lya...ja avda mun toh ke aa saban naal. Twade sardar'a kolon inni mashk aundi twade lagay te kutta vi nang da.
Personal attack, post reported. This is a family forum, not a 30 year old alcoholic Arains playground.
 
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Muslim brothers!!!!....Do not derail this thread with unwanted comments...

Yes we are Muslim brothers, what is wrong with his saying?

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It's a story, most don't believe on it. If it's not in the Guru Granth Sahib then it's not a part of his life. Just because it is on a couple of Sikh websites doesn't make it an absolute truth. It's mainly used to attract converts from Islam since they like these type of superstitious stories.;)

That is hilarious because historians read his janam sakhis if they want to know about his life not the Guru Granth. More like it is used to try and show that he had some divine inspiration in other words an assurance for you Sikhs. :lol:

You didn't answer my question do you wear pag or not. Actually forget about it your silence already answered it. ;)

Chal oy churaya. Arain'aa da lya...ja avda mun toh ke aa saban naal. Twade sardar'a kolon inni mashk aundi twade lagay te kutta vi ne nang da.

:rofl: :rofl:

Yo leave him, only him and jatt gatts are 12o clockers but there are some good sikhs here like jaggu and butch.
 
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Yes we are Muslim brothers, what is wrong with his saying?



That his hilarious because historians read his janam sakhis if they want to know about his life not the Guru Granth. More like it is used to try and show that he had some divine inspiration in other words an assurance for you Sikhs. :lol:

You didn't answer my question do you wear pag or not. Actually forget about it your silence already answered it. ;)



:rofl: :rofl:

Yo leave him, only him and jatt gatts are 12o clockers but there are some good sikhs here like jaggu and butch.


This kid doesn't even know punjabi.. :lol:
 
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all religions have some bad apples.. but some religions especially religions born in middle east strive for more and more followers and teach us versus them.. this is what Sikhism teaches




islam teaches you takiya .. you are good muslim.. keep lieing

Even your youtube video shows influence of Islam on Sikhism, even in the title. Without Islam there would be no sikhism don't forget sikhism is just a mix mash of Islam and Hinduism by your gurus. Without even one of them there would be no sikhism and if both were so bad then sikhism cannot possibly be good because the apple never falls far from the tree. ;)
 
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