Debating the Burqa

[Dubious]

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You see thats your problem right there.....Your constitution disagrees with you!

I crush anything that doesn´t represent european culture.

What is European culture? Does it resemble the naked Neanderthals or the Renaissance where women dressed in ball gowns?

In Italy we already ban burqa. I have 0 tolerance for evrything non italian / european.

Your constitution disagrees with you! Freedom of choice...Mind you even mother Mary isnt naked nor wearing a miniskirt! And in Sicily most grandmas wear a headscarf still and are proud of THEIR CULTURE.....So spare me the crap please!

Also its not about faces. Its about seeing who talks with you.

Fair enough...

You hide your face infront me? That means you are a terrorist and not trustworthy. Its that easy. It makes you a non person in my eyes

That is your problem right? Your narrow thinking and also your narrowed concept! Because Italians are respectful people not bigots like you

 

[jamahir]

actually writing the first letter of Allah, is a rule while using proper nouns

oh, i prefer writing everything in small... actually, the capital case has no real value... it is the manner of writing a word and sentence that makes the sentence portray a respect or insult ( or support or opposition ) towards something.

quote it to Mufti Jamahir pls

a.k.a red maulana a.k.a the green commie.

He has hardly any knowledge of Quran and Sunnah. He mixes crap socialism and communism with Islam.

o wise father, with all your "vast knowledge" of quran, you will be only able to run a village of fools.

and "crap socialism"?? if you don't want justice and equality among people, what manner of person are you??

 

[Yousafzai_M]

Another Burqa bollocks discussion. Women can wear whatever the f*ck they want. Simple as that.

 

[Dubious]

No they didn't total lie in fact many women were famous for doing tawaf of kabah naked and even others most didn't covered head and also arms mostly used to be uncovered

I cant seem to find any picture of such things in any books....wonder who destroyed it?!

About the naked tawaf yes I have read about that point but that is all....No one would walk in a desert naked it is too much ....but yes for unknown reason they got creative with the tawaff

 

[jamahir]

Besides, the women in burqa have a reputation of being 'easy'.

lagta hai huzoor ne ghat ghat ka paani piya hai.

 

[Barrel-Bomba]

but using the word alien is them denying their own past! Its nothing to do with evolve as much as denial and ignorant!

but it is alien today, spl the all black, it's psychologically disturbing to see something like that

there is a valid argument to be made about individual choices and freedom, which includes freedom to be religious and wear what you want, and to that extent it can be viewed as a tool of empowerment too..

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a lot of it is oppression and religious/cultural fascism and anti freedom, it's human rights thing.

islamophobes and racists aside, Europeans generally are correct to not want people dressed like that among them, it is completely antithetical to their culture.

 

[Dubious]

Another Burqa bollocks discussion. Women can wear whatever the f*ck they want. Simple as that.

Some men want to call themselves progressive and "different" from the ones "THEY" label backward yet these "progressive" people behave EXACTLY like the backward ones and force women with their choice and rob a woman off hers!

 

[Jf Thunder]

oh, i prefer writing everything in small... actually, the capital case has no real value... it is the manner of writing a word and sentence that makes the sentence portray a respect or insult ( or support or opposition ) towards something.

you must be hanged then

I have and their is not much difference

you do realize that socialism doesnt reject religion, right?

yes it does....As I said in my post on page 1....Had the politician used security threat, it would have been bought but he went after women rights!

fair enough, sorry for that Khala

 

[MarkusS]

You roam around naked ? You are a slut or a fag.. It's that easy ... To generalise and be a total fukwit.

my country, my rules. Its that easy.

 

[Jf Thunder]

Knives are security thread and also cars even suicide bomber wearing clothes is security threat why don't we ban all clothes ?

you can see the criminal's face in normal clothes, duhh
you cant even identify him if he is wearing this cursed piece of cloth

 

[Dubious]

but it is alien today, spl the all black, it's psychologically disturbing to see something like that

Depends how strong you are psychologically?

I see a black cat or rat I dont scream fro my life just the same as I see a white one!

there is a valid argument to be made about individual choices and freedom, which includes freedom to be religious and wear what you want, and to that extent it can be viewed as a tool of empowerment too..

Yes

a lot of it is oppression and religious/cultural fascism and anti freedom, it's human rights thing.

How so?

In the west is kind of opposite where everyone is wearing latest fashion and your society doesnt give 2 hoots of your culture and tradition nor they know it...To make a choice not to take part in the latest trends (which mind you every girl loves)is ACTUALLY A TOUGH CHOICE and should be given credit not seen as oppressive coz she made her choice irrespective of peer pressure...But of course media wont tell you that!

islamophobes and racists aside, Europeans generally are correct to not want people dressed like that among them, it is completely antithetical to their culture.

1 define their culture?! Coz back in the 80s it was unethical to go around half naked or even show your shoulders!

my country, my rules. Its that easy.

You dont even know your rules :rolf: its that easy! nor its constituition law! Where a person is free to choose and their clothes and religion and practices

 

[MarkusS]

You see thats your problem right there.....Your constitution disagrees with you!



What is European culture? Does it resemble the naked Neanderthals or the Renaissance where women dressed in ball gowns?

Your constitution disagrees with you! Freedom of choice...Mind you even mother Mary isnt naked nor wearing a miniskirt! And in Sicily most grandmas wear a headscarf still and are proud of THEIR CULTURE.....So spare me the crap please!


Fair enough...


That is your problem right? Your narrow thinking and also your narrowed concept! Because Italians are respectful people not bigots like you

Our law banned the burqa in 2012. We also banend restaurants selling "muslim food" into the outskirts of italian cities. We are a democracy. Since the majority of italians is against barbarism from the middle east we can make such laws.

You don´t like it? leave. Its that easy. This is Italy, not Burqistan.

 

[Dubious]

Knives are security thread and also cars even suicide bomber wearing clothes is security threat why don't we ban all clothes ?

Islam is a way of life and it is also for every era and person...Now if some people have misused it and using burqa is not a must coz Islam is logical not illogical "coz I said so attitude of the Mullah" then please dont give illogical arguments coz you make Islam sound illogical!

 

[MarkusS]

Depends how strong you are psychologically?

I see a black cat or rat I dont scream fro my life just the same as I see a white one!


Yes

How so?

In the west is kind of opposite where everyone is wearing latest fashion and your society doesnt give 2 hoots of your culture and tradition nor they know it...To make a choice not to take part in the latest trends (which mind you every girl loves)is ACTUALLY A TOUGH CHOICE and should be given credit not seen as oppressive coz she made her choice irrespective of peer pressure...But of course media wont tell you that!


1 define their culture?! Coz back in the 80s it was unethical to go around half naked or even show your shoulders!


You dont even know your rules :rolf: its that easy! nor its constituition law! Where a person is free to choose and their clothes and religion and practices

Webanend the Burqa in italy. You pay a heavy fine here if you wear that shit. So much for "freedom of choice". In repeated cases you are thrown into prison. We are a european nation amigo. We don´t dress like ninjas or batman in public to hide bomb belts-.

 

[Dubious]

We also banend restaurants selling "muslim food" into the outskirts of italian cities.

What rubbish? I just had halal food in Rome and also in Florence and also in Venice just last Summer ! Now please try that shit on ignorant people like yourself!

Mind you alot of middle Eastern Muslims make up your summer tourism income so your BS really is BS!

We are a democracy.

Sorry it doesnt mean bigotry! Try you delusion somewhere else!

Since the majority of italians is against barbarism from the middle east we can make such laws.

No since Italy is part of EU it cant make bigotry its constitution that is just you SOLELY YOU!

Webanend the Burqa in italy. You pay a heavy fine here if you wear that shit. So much for "freedom of choice". In repeated cases you are thrown into prison. We are a european nation amigo. We don´t dress like ninjas or batman in public to hide bomb belts-.

Yo chest thumping monkey only several towns have "local" laws I believe you are from some village hence such thinking!

Several towns in Italy have local bans on face-covering veils. The north-western town of Novara is one of several local authorities to have already brought in rules to deter public use of the Islamic veil.

Governments have discussed extending the law to impose penalties on Muslim face coverings, but these have not yet been enforced nationally.

The Islamic veil across Europe - BBC News

Such a pity some people are just lying to fulfill some hatred!