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Blasts may have Pakistan link: Moscow

The Moscow Metro bombings may have a Pakistan connection, said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov as security experts warned of more terrorist attacks.

Mr. Lavrov suggested that militants operating on the Afghan-Pakistan border may have helped organise the Moscow attacks.

The death toll in Monday's suicide bombing of two Moscow subway stations rose to 39 as a woman wounded in the attack died in hospital on Tuesday. Five victims remain in critical condition and more than 70 in hospital.

“We all know very well that clandestine terrorists are very active in ‘no man's land' on the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan,” said Mr. Lavrov on the sidelines of a Foreign Ministers meeting of Arctic states in Canada.

“It is there many terrorist attacks carried out not only in Afghanistan and in neighbouring countries, but also in Central Asia and as far as the Caucasus, have been prepared.”

Mr. Lavrov called for closer coordination of international efforts to tract down terrorists and their sources of finance. “It is a global terrorist network and it should be combated globally on the basis of U.N. and other international decisions,” he said.

In the past two months, Russian security services killed two Al-Qaeda emissaries — both of Arab origin — in the entourage of Chechen rebel leader Doku Umarov, who proclaimed himself “Emir of the Caucasus” .

Experts did not rule out more terror strikes in Moscow and other Russian cities. Investigation sources told the Kommersant daily that about 30 suicide bombers had recently been trained in Turkey and in North Caucasus. Nine of them have already carried out their missions, including two women suicide bombers who staged Monday's twin attacks. Experts recall that the deadliest bombing of the Moscow Metro in February 2004, which killed 41 people, was followed by a series of suicide attacks in Moscow over the next few months that included the downing of two passenger planes and a bomb blast outside a subway station. The 2004 wave of terror culminated with the seizure of a school in North Ossetia, in which 334 hostages died, including 186 children.

The Hindu : News / International : Blasts may have Pakistan link: Moscow

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_******-trained-militants-could-be-behind-russia-blasts_1365409


What the he** is this?
Where in the article it says that the attacks were planned in Pakistan?
It said that "Afghan-Pakistan border"
Now technically speaking, border area can be Afghanistan also...
Statements like "MAY HAVE" should be condemned at the diplomatic level. Either you come with a proof or shut your mouth

AND
We have seen many attacks in Pakistan and our blood is also holy like Russians..
 
Question 1. Why did at that time Russia, the biggest soviet, declared independence? Did they, in the words of gubbi, woke up a fine morning and decided to have independence?

Question 2. Like Russia declared independence from USSR, could you not accept Chechnya as an independent state as it has also claimed independence?

Question 3. Is the present day administration of Chechnya not a puppet of Russian Govt. just like in 80's Afghan govts. were of USSR?

...

KIT Over

your questions are out of content because you have not the slightest idea other that the fabricated imagination of the twisted brain

1>how much do you know about the constitution of the soviet union did you know that each of the them had the power to withdraw
no point telling you because you dont want to know but make stupid comments like " WE BROKE THE SU "

2> have you heard the word RUSSIAN FEDERATION do you understand what it means look up and gain some knowledge
learn details of soviet union and russia was an independent SFSR was Chechnia a soviet SFSR so do not open your mouth on matters you dont know

3> IS it so you know more about cechnya than me are you a cechen , do you belong to that place ?
why dont you make some vaild arguments rather than ranting since from your posts its clearly evident you have 0<ZERO> knowledge about the whole issue


thank you for supporting freedom fighters but let me assure you that th russian administration or the common man cares a damn about what imbeciles like you think
 
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What the he** is this?
Where in the article it says that the attacks were planned in Pakistan?
It said that "Afghan-Pakistan border"
Now technically speaking, border area can be Afghanistan also...
Statements like "MAY HAVE" should be condemned at the diplomatic level. Either you come with a proof or shut your mouth

AND
We have seen many attacks in Pakistan and our blood is also holy like Russians..

you need to understand the implications what lavarov meant was the volatile region in south asia might have some sort of link to it its highly possible it does not try and identify pakistan because for that more time and evidence is needed and moreover i dont think pakistan has anything to do with chechnia other than moral support

but still i did not hear an official statement from pakistani administration condemning the attacks< might be wrong correct me>this part is very sad to see because pakistan has been suffering this menace for long and it needs to support all the nations which are willing to root it out
 
According to ex-Soviet constitution, 15 Union Republics are independent sovereign states. So,

NOT Kazakhstan, Azerbjian, Georgia, Armenia, Estonia, Ukraine, etc were independent of Russia.

Actually, All Kazakhstan, Azerbajian, Georgia, Armenia, Estonia, Ukraine, etc, and Russia were independent of USSR.

However, Chechenya is under Russia NOT USSR.

Chechenya is integral part of Russia

Like

Nagorno-Karabakh is integral part of Azerbajian,

Crimea is integral part of Ukraine,

South Ossetia is integral part of Georgia,

North Kazakhstan Area (which is prodominant of Russian) is integral part of Kazakhstan.


Somebody say that Chechenya is NOT integral part of Russia EQUAL THAT

Nagorno-Karabakh is NOT integral part of Azerbajian,

Crimea is NOT integral part of Ukraine,

South Ossetia is NOT integral part of Georgia,

North Kazakhstan Area (which is prodominant of Russian) is NOT integral part of Kazakhstan.
 
Don't equate Pakistan with Russia. Pakistan never went on a crazy Supermacist frenzy of occupying other lands for wealth and resources so as to control the world like Russia has been in the past and now its facing independent freedom movements.

Pakistan has been deliberately lurched into the WOT through threats and intimidation and bribing of our political elites and generals. It was never our war to begin with.

It is rather unfortunate that we're fighting hired mercinaries and militants...all operating with disguise under one banner.


Terrorism is terrorism, whether its vigilante terrorism committed by individuals or collective terrorism committed by States.

Human life is the most precious gift of God and should not be sacrificed for any worldly gain or pleasure.

So condemn all forms of terror, not just committed by people against govn'ts.

are you serious mate russia wants to occupy foreign land LOL
i guess it is good friend and ally the US in iraq , afganistan threating iran , lured georgia only to abandon it later with military bases all over the world and you say russia is occupying territory

now you say pakistan was lured into war by whom by russia? is it who created the taliban and the present derivatives is it russia the creaters of the taliban took the help of pakistan and as their policy is left them to suffer till one day they got hurt and then made this big fuss about WOT

tell me were there no terrorist attacks before 9-11 were innocent people not suffering before 9-11 so vent your anger towards the one whom you helped during cold war and who abandoned you later on
russia had nothing to do with pakistan the soviet union had and they are no more so get things in place right


also who created these hired people where did they come from who gave them training ?do not live in self denial beacuse a grave mistake was commited and now innocent people are paying because of wrong state policies

as a common pakistani and a common russian dont we deserve better rather than this scare on a daily basis
 
you need to understand the implications what lavarov meant was the volatile region in south asia might have some sort of link to it its highly possible it does not try and identify pakistan because for that more time and evidence is needed and moreover i dont think pakistan has anything to do with chechnia other than moral support

but still i did not hear an official statement from pakistani administration condemning the attacks< might be wrong correct me>this part is very sad to see because pakistan has been suffering this menace for long and it needs to support all the nations which are willing to root it out

Kindly can you tell me from where were the earlier attacks launched within Russia ?? Beslan siege ?? So many other attacks ??

Isn't there enough room available in Chechnya or any other volatile region around Russia from where these people could have come.

And don;t worry, Russia has Pakistan's condemnation as Russia is not our enemy, rather we share our grief with our enemies also.

But can you tell me how many times Russia has condemned the hundreds of incidents within Pakistan.

And as said the finger pointing by Russia gives us very less room to condemn as this shows their true intent as they wanna make use of this incident and use it for their dirty politics.

Russia should better search first around its own borders and see what trouble is there, then they should point fingers.

Sending suicide bombers from Pakistan is absurd to its maximum, we had no role in the earlier attacks, nor this time. Its Russia's internal matter and we have nothing to do with Russia, even though Russia is not playing a good role in matters related to Pakistan from Afghanistan.

Chechans are your problem, they are there around you guys and attack you from their own places not from thousands of miles away.
 
According to ex-Soviet constitution, 15 Union Republics are independent sovereign states. So,

NOT Kazakhstan, Azerbjian, Georgia, Armenia, Estonia, Ukraine, etc were independent of Russia.

Actually, All Kazakhstan, Azerbajian, Georgia, Armenia, Estonia, Ukraine, etc, and Russia were independent of USSR.

However, Chechenya is under Russia NOT USSR.

Chechenya is integral part of Russia

Like

Nagorno-Karabakh is integral part of Azerbajian,

Crimea is integral part of Ukraine,

South Ossetia is integral part of Georgia,

North Kazakhstan Area (which is prodominant of Russian) is integral part of Kazakhstan.


Somebody say that Chechenya is NOT integral part of Russia EQUAL THAT

Nagorno-Karabakh is NOT integral part of Azerbajian,

Crimea is NOT integral part of Ukraine,

South Ossetia is NOT integral part of Georgia,

North Kazakhstan Area (which is prodominant of Russian) is NOT integral part of Kazakhstan.

buddy some people here know very little about the soviet but make tall claims unnecessary to inflate their ego need to come out of the self denial , self praising mode to study in detail before making stupid arguments the boundaries of CAR are mostly divided on Tribal or sectorial basis and one overlaps the other
not many know the difference between a tajik and a kazak or an armenian yet make far fetched comments
 
Kindly can you tell me from where were the earlier attacks launched within Russia ?? Beslan siege ?? So many other attacks ??

Isn't there enough room available in Chechnya or any other volatile region around Russia from where these people could have come.

And don;t worry, Russia has Pakistan's condemnation as Russia is not our enemy, rather we share our grief with our enemies also.

But can you tell me how many times Russia has condemned the hundreds of incidents within Pakistan.

And as said the finger pointing by Russia gives us very less room to condemn as this shows their true intent as they wanna make use of this incident and use it for their dirty politics.

Russia should better search first around its own borders and see what trouble is there, then they should point fingers.

Sending suicide bombers from Pakistan is absurd to its maximum, we had no role in the earlier attacks, nor this time. Its Russia's internal matter and we have nothing to do with Russia, even though Russia is not playing a good role in matters related to Pakistan from Afghanistan.

Chechans are your problem, they are there around you guys and attack you from their own places not from thousands of miles away.

sir finger pointing took place 24 hours to 48 hours later but i doubt if any official condemnation has reached moscow from islamabad as far as russia condemning terrorist attacks i will didg and send you copies but the offensive in pakistan is looked at positively by moscow and official statement has been released before on this
and i am sure common man like you are really sorry for the incident because we have noting to do with administration policies we want this terrorism thing out of our daily lives because people like yo and me are suffering daily


for a huge country like russia there will be problems and issues which big country does not have that so it common and needs to be addressed properly its an internal matter


Chechans are your problem, they are there around you guys and attack you from their own places not from thousands of miles away.

excatly sir chechans are our problem if any but i keep hearing people here on the forum about freedom movement and muslim suppression why is that then why not worry about the internal matters and let russia handle its internal matters
as far as russian role in afganistan is concerned we are a ally on the war on terror and are constantly taking it up in the UN and other world forums
 
let me make this post clearer
the attack in moscow in 2010 the last attack in moscow was in 2004

does this prove anything ? now compare this with terrorist attacks on other parts of the world what does this show that the terrorism directed against russia is far and few and done with the help of foreign hands if local ETHNIC violence or suppresion was a reason wouldnt we see a daily bomb blasts and events all over russia
yes some southern parts have problems these problems are lack of development, job aspects, healthcare, education that is what is lacking if there was ethnic unrest in russia we would have seen something like srilanka, or afganistan with ethnic fighting daily

thats why i say there is no freedom fighters amongst russians its fabricated western approach if you dont believe watch CNN coverage of moscow blast
in russia you get one beslan , one nevsky and one moscow blast its sad but look where there is ethnic unrest and what happens there
 
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Flowers lie at Lubyanka metro station in Moscow on Monday after two female suicide bombers killed more then 30 people on two Moscow metro trains in the rush hour. (Vladimir Davydo/Reuters)


When a suicide bomber detonates an explosive vest, the bomber’s chest and torso are blown to bits, but typically the head remains intact.

That is why the Moscow police investigators who rushed to the scene of Monday's Moscow Metro attacks suspected the two bombers were young women from Russia’s Caucasus Mountains because of their facial bone structure and brown skin.

Within minutes Alexander Torshin, a powerful member of Russia’s Federation Council and head of its North Caucasus committee, blamed the attacks on the “Black Widows.”

The Black Widows is what Russian journalists call female Islamist suicide bombers who have participated in more than 30 attacks that have killed about 900 people in Russia since July 2001, when Khava Barayeva and Luisa Magomadova rammed their explosives packed truck into a Russian military headquarters building in the Chechen village of Alkhan Yurt.



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A Russian Interior official keeps watch at a crime scene in Grozny, in the tumultuous Chechnya region, in September 2009. A suicide bomber blew herself up beside a police car, wounding six people. (S. Dal/Reuters)


The Black Widows are the creation of notorious Chechen rebel military commander Shamil Basayev.

Baseyev was the mastermind behind the Beslan school massacre, a three-day hostage-taking at a school in North Ossetia in 2004 that left 334 hostages dead, 186 of them children. Baseyev was killed in 2006, a death federal authorities take credit for, although others claim Baseyev accidentally blew himself up.

Before his death, Basayev was keen to test his hunch that when the Russian authorities are on alert for potential terrorist attacks, a young women in jeans or an older women in a frock attracts less suspicion than a dark-skinned young Chechen man in a cheap jacket.

Basayev dubbed his battalion of suicide seekers Riyad us Saliheen, an Arabic reference from the Koran meaning Garden of the Righteous. It was composed of men and women, but it was the women who fascinated the Russian media.

From 2002 to 2004, his “shahidka” — a Russian derivative of the Arabic word shahid, meaning female martyr — staged high-profile attacks mostly against Russian civilians.

Baseyev hoped to bully the Russian public into realizing it was better to allow the Chechen separatists to negotiate their ancestral homeland out of the Russian Federation than to fight a perpetual bloody war a thousand kilometres away from Moscow.

In October 2002, 19 Black Widows wrapped in black mourning clothes and suicide vests accompanied about 20 Chechen men as they seized more than 900 hostages at Moscow’s Dubrovka Theatre.



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Shamil Basayev, photographed in 1999, was the mastermind behind the Beslan school massacre. (Associated Press)

Russian Special Forces commandos ended the siege by pumping a powerful gas into the theatre that put everyone to sleep. The commandos then executed the Black Widows with a single bullet between the eyes as they sat unconscious in their seats.

The following year, Black Widow suicide bombers attacked an open-air rock concert in Moscow, a commuter train in southern Russia and Moscow’s luxury National Hotel that sits across the street from the Kremlin.

In 2004, Black Widows brought down two Russian passenger jets, attacked Moscow Metro’s Rizhskaya station and participated in the Beslan school hostage taking.

In a study of 47 Black Widows, psychologists Anne Speckhard and Khapta Akhmedova attempted to profile the women and determine who they were and what motivated them.

The answer that emerged from interviews with their families was revenge.

Chechnya is just one of six Muslim-majority provinces straddling the Caucasus mountain range that marks Russia’s southern border. More than 90 ethnic groups live there. Most are Muslims that have more in common with Iran, which is 200 kilometres to the south, than they do with Russia.

What these mountain peoples have in common with each other is that they are clan-based societies. Their ancient clan values trump Russian civil law and even Islam, and revenge is a core clan value.

If an outsider wrongfully kills a clan member, it is the clan’s moral obligation to settle scores by killing the perpetrator or failing that, a member of his clan.

Speckhard and Akhmedova studied 47 Black Widows ranging in age from 15 to 38. The death of a brother, a father or the rape of a female relative at the hands of Russian soldiers had traumatized all of them. Some had been raped themselves.


Basayev disbanded the Riyad us Saliheen in 2004 following the international condemnation of the rebels after the Beslan School massacre. But after a six-year hiatus Russia’s counterintelligence agency, the FSB, believes the Riyad us Saliheen brigade has been revived.

Last year, a charismatic rebel commander calling himself Said Buryatsky bragged on the rebel website Kavkaz Center he was training new suicide bombers.

An ethnic Russian convert to Islam, Buryasky, born Alexander Tikhomirov, studied for several years in Saudi Arabia. When he returned, he found much had changed in the Caucasus since Baseyev’s death.

What had started as a battle for Chechen independence had spread to all six Muslim majority Russian provinces in the Caucasus. Moreover, the insurgency had been transformed by new hard-line Islamist leaders into a religious crusade.

A new leader, Dokka Umarov, emerged declaring the new goal was to separate all six Muslim majority provinces in the Russian Caucasus from the Russian Federation, and create a new Islamic state ruled by Sharia law.

Admired for his Saudi religious education Buryatsky quickly became Umarov’s chief ideologist. He also became a valued military strategist.

In August 2009, a male suicide bomber drove a truck bomb into the headquarters of the federal police in Nazran, the capital of Ingushetia province. Twenty-six police officers were killed, and more than 100 officers and civilians were wounded. Buryatsky claimed credit.

At the time, the Federal Security Service (FSB) claimed Buryatsky had trained 30 new suicide bombers, many of them Black Widows.

The counterintelligence agency also believed that Buryatsky planned the bombing of the Nevsky Express — a high-speed luxury train that runs between Moscow and St. Petersburg. Twenty-seven passengers died in that attack.

The FSB hunted Buryatsky down and he was killed in a raid on March 2 in Ingushetia.

But in the wake of Monday's Moscow Metro attacks, the FSB is investigating the possibility that the two women suicide bombers were Black Widows out to avenge his death.

On Tuesday, Russia’s Kommersant newspaper reported that the FSB believes that nine of Buryatsky’s 30 recruits have already blown themselves up on suicide missions. The counterintelligence agency believes the other 21 are still at large, raising fears they are preparing for more attacks on Moscow.



CBC News - World - Black Widows: The brides of Allah
 
your questions are out of content because you have not the slightest idea other that the fabricated imagination of the twisted brain

1>how much do you know about the constitution of the soviet union did you know that each of the them had the power to withdraw
no point telling you because you dont want to know but want to know but make stupid comments like " WE BROKE THE SU "

2> have you heard the word RUSSIAN FEDERATION do you understand what it means look up and gain some knowledge
learn details of soviet union and russia was an independent SFSR was Chechnia a soviet SFSR so do not open your mouth on matters you dont know

3> IS it so you know more about cechnya than me are you a cechen , do you belong to that place ?
why dont you make some vaild arguments rather than ranting since from your posts its clearly evident you have 0<ZERO> knowledge about the whole issue

thank you for supporting freedom fighters but let me assure you that th russian administration or the common man cares a damn about about imbeciles like you think

Oops, the Russian chum speaks for his country. Good its a nice and healthy symptom for you. Keep it up :cheesy:

It hurts??? Yeah dragging Pakistan in every thing also does. Just like you entered gunning for my comments, I did to show you a bit that how it feels when you do something and others do not acknolwedge. How does it feel to loss your mates and still being condemned? Bad na.

BTW I still say WE BROKE USSR in Afghanistan. The Soviets who considered Afghanistan a part of their union had it in their heads that their supremacy and AIM to expand is not valid as despite of their most effort, they were unable to sustain their control over Afghanistan.

Pakistan played the most important role because we as frontline fought against USSR troops in Afghanistan. US and West did gave $$$ but it was the strength of Pakistan Troops and their support to Mujahiddin that threw you out of here.

And yeah we Pakistanis give a damn to your FM and his statements. Still you are so INDPENDENT that your foreign relations are affected by a third country.

At once you say Freedom Fighters are planning attacks from Pak-Afghan border (the same where US and West are fighting against them), than you say the Freedom Fighters are Western Fabricated Approach. What an oxymoron? But no wonder, its from a berk.

What do you think, your suppressing of Chechans will go unreacted. In Dreams.

Well, yours today's lesson is done. Hope you must've learnt something. And about history, I GIVE A DAMN.

KIT Over
 
B0ll$!T article !!!

One word " Russians are reaping what they sowed ".

If they can kill 2 million Afghans there is no F-king accountability on it , they can go Bomb Chachania and Daghistan There is no Accountability.

If Russia needs peace they Must Start with its Home first !
 
B0ll$!T article !!!

One word " Russians are reaping what they sowed ".

If they can kill 2 million Afghans there is no F-king accountability on it , they can go Bomb Chachania and Daghistan There is no Accountability.

If Russia needs peace they Must Start with its Home first !



But black widow is a reality i guess. I googled the word and ive go lots of results.


Shahidka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


'Black Widow' female suicide bombers kill 37 in Moscow metro blasts - The Long War Journal



Female suicide bombers in Moscow kill more than 30 in attacks on tube trains | Mail Online
 
B0ll$!T article !!!

One word " Russians are reaping what they sowed ".

If they can kill 2 million Afghans there is no F-king accountability on it , they can go Bomb Chachania and Daghistan There is no Accountability.

If Russia needs peace they Must Start with its Home first !



Any idea about the number of people killed by the war on terror ally US killed in Hiroshima Nagasaki, world war 2, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan , Pakistan?????

I guess the US and its "allies" are catching up with Russia in AFGHAN casualty list.
 
One side's freedom fighter is another side's terrorist

Chechenya's terrorists can't earn the World sympathy.

I object to Chechenya's independence of Russia.

Politics is dark and dirty! But ordinary people are innocent!

Chechen people should find the way to co-exist with Russian.
 

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