Deadly explosions on Moscow Metro system

[FireFighter]

They should shove a stick of dynamite up their *****.

RIP to the innocent civilians.

I hope that it's about time Russian realize what the godless commies have done to their neighbouring countries around the world.

Just now Russian envoy to India Alex Kadakin made a statement about possible Pakistani linkage to the Moscow blasts on Times Now (video telecast)..

Statment goes like this...
"We know who finances these terrorists and these terrorists are trained in the country bordering on the country I live in (India)."

When asked if he was refering to Pakistan, he said..
" As a diplomat I dont want to name a 3rd country but you and I know which countries shelters these terrorists"


pretty strong statements for an ambassador... Wonder if something has already come out of initial investigations..

No surprises there my friend.

It's routinely mindless pre-programmed anti-Pakistan foreign policy agenda of the Indian media designed for the psychotic herd of mindless sheeps who rely upon a daily doze of anti-Pak condemnations for their nationalistic and spiritual uplifting, nothing else.


Nothing good expected from Indian media about Pakistan.

RIP, i hope the Russian Government takes strong action now. Its time for Russia to assert itself again over the world. Gosh i miss the Soviet Union days

You have gone out of your mind my friend.

In the last episode of tyrannical rule of the Soviet Union, we saw consecutive occupations of Eastern European and Asian populations and millions of deaths and destruction of countries as a result of their supremacist policies. Chaos and destruction of Afghanistan is just one glimpse of the fascists rule.


The godless communist Soviet Union has gone down in the dustbin of history. That's where they belong. Good riddance to the tyrants.

 

[gubbi]

Chechnya was invaded by russia. now how can this be compared with TTP, LTTE, etc etc....?

violent movement only get public support in short run..... agreed
and also suppression can only solve your problem in short run.....agreed?

Chechnya was invaded by Russia? When?
IIRc, it was a part of the Russian Federation for a pretty long time. Now suddenly those people woke up one fine morning and decided to pick up a gun to vent their frustration against the state?
So in the same vein you might as well know why the LTTE was formed and the specific event which unleashed the Tamil anger in Sri Lanka.

Suppression solves the problem in the short run, agreed. But what needs to be done, and we have a very good example in Punjab, is introduce political packages immediately after the suppression of the militants. I believe that is in the making - albeit iron handed at first and then as the security situation becomes more relaxed, more privileges can be introduced.

 

[Moscow]

Dont play the victim card. No one is justifying this attack neither other such attacks.

Terming Russian occupation of Chechnya is also biased and onesided and menifestation of hatered because Chechans are Muslims.


And dont try to portray me as hater of Americans, Europeans and Russians, because the Innocent Americans, Innocent Europeans and Innocent Russians have nothing to with wrong policies of their governnments and neither i hate the people But the terrorist policies of their govts.

because chechans are muslims ?
Adyghe, Balkars, Circassians, Ingush, Kabardin, Karachay what are they then ...
dont bring the muslim logic its pathetic to say the least
in the military offensive in late 1999 are you sure russian army contained only slavic men? and the tartars did not fight so keep this muslim logic away because it is not only in poor light but in poor understanding of ones own think process

terrorist policies of the government?

huh what is the pakistan army doing against those men who is killing the innocent in pakistan daily arent they killing them and their supporters arent the pakistani government terrorist or arent they muslim as well <going by your logic>
any person who pics up a gun against a state needs to be crushed isnt it what your country is doing too


so renounce terrorism as a whole do not play the muslim card to justify terrorism and did you know amongst the 39 dead there were muslims as well

 

[FireFighter]

terrorist policies of the government?

huh what is the pakistan army doing against those men who is killing the innocent in pakistan daily arent they killing them and their supporters arent the pakistani government terrorist or arent they muslim as well <going by your logic>
any person who pics up a gun against a state needs to be crushed isnt it what your country is doing too

Don't equate Pakistan with Russia. Pakistan never went on a crazy Supermacist frenzy of occupying other lands for wealth and resources so as to control the world like Russia has been in the past and now its facing independent freedom movements.

Pakistan has been deliberately lurched into the WOT through threats and intimidation and bribing of our political elites and generals. It was never our war to begin with.

It is rather unfortunate that we're fighting hired mercinaries and militants...all operating with disguise under one banner.

so renounce terrorism as a whole do not play the muslim card to justify terrorism and did you know amongst the 39 dead there were muslims as well

Terrorism is terrorism, whether its vigilante terrorism committed by individuals or collective terrorism committed by States.

Human life is the most precious gift of God and should not be sacrificed for any worldly gain or pleasure.

So condemn all forms of terror, not just committed by people against govn'ts.

 

[courageneverdies]

Till the time terrorism apologists keep making excuses for such acts, we are all condemned to live thru the evil of this scourge and its repercussions. But to each his own..

I concur.

Till the time some self-proclaimed giants and so-called glorious countries with their poorest policies provide reasons for Terrorism, the world will face terrorism.

KIT Over

 

[courageneverdies]

please go through the last 2 pages with open mind maybe you can learn something about soviet union and correct your wrong belief on "WHO BROKE "

No need. I already know. Its your turn to remember that and learn a lesson from past before you further divide.

KIT Over

 

[courageneverdies]

Just because you don't regard it as an integral part of that country, doesn't mean the world doesn't. There is no dispute in the UN regarding the province and all other countries recognize it as a part of Russia.

What has beocme of the other disputes ON UN LIST? ---0000--- is the output. Some disputes are not meant to be on UN list. Is Afghanistan and Iraq issue on UN list? But still there are violations of basic human rights.

Yeah.. we care for the world. The world which can see death of 38 INNOCENT CIVILIANS but remains silent on the death of those thousands victimised of a State's terrorism in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan and Kashmir.

KIT Over

 

[courageneverdies]

Don't equate Pakistan with Russia. Pakistan never went on a crazy Supermacist frenzy of occupying other lands for wealth and resources so as to control the world like Russia has been in the past and now its facing independent freedom movements.

Pakistan has been deliberately lurched into the WOT through threats and intimidation and bribing of our political elites and generals. It was never our war to begin with.

It is rather unfortunate that we're fighting hired mercinaries and militants...all operating with disguise under one banner.


Terrorism is terrorism, whether its vigilante terrorism committed by individuals or collective terrorism committed by States.

Human life is the most precious gift of God and should not be sacrificed for any worldly gain or pleasure.

So condemn all forms of terror, not just committed by people against govn'ts.

Its just bro. These things they can't understand and never they can acknowledge the part Pakistan is playing against terrorism.

Like I said, the state terrorism can't be seen to them. They just think terrorism is by a band of hostile people.

KIT Over

 

[ajpirzada]

At that time third world intelligence agency was backed by CIA and $$. now it is different story.

and wat else did CIA do other than $$?

 

[courageneverdies]

sir the soviet union did not withdraw if you read the history it was dissolved because russia the biggest soviet declared independence and yeltsin banned the CPSU from russian terrority the military coup upstaged gorbachevs plan and yeltsin took the oppurtunity to sign the treaty of dissolution and formation of CIS
detailed can be studided in books written world over.


let me add to he economic sanctions thing even during the late 80s during glasnost SU was importing wheat from the US so even the sanction thing is not valid correctly
the single big factor cannot be attributed but afnanistan was .01&#37; of whol thing if any

Question 1. Why did at that time Russia, the biggest soviet, declared independence? Did they, in the words of gubbi, woke up a fine morning and decided to have independence?

Question 2. Like Russia declared independence from USSR, could you not accept Chechnya as an independent state as it has also claimed independence?

Question 3. Is the present day administration of Chechnya not a puppet of Russian Govt. just like in 80's Afghan govts. were of USSR?

...

KIT Over

 

[courageneverdies]

and wat else did CIA do other than $$?

Yeah.

One more thing wars are fought on $$$$$. Thats why a country is ensuring that the supply of $$$$ remain intact to insurgents of her neighbouring countries.

KIT Over

 

[ajpirzada]

gubbi

Chechnya was invaded by Russia? When?
IIRc, it was a part of the Russian Federation for a pretty long time. Now suddenly those people woke up one fine morning and decided to pick up a gun to vent their frustration against the state?

chechnya's struggle against russia goes back to 18th century when russia expanded into territories formerly under the dominion of Turkey and Persia. and there has always been resistance to russian rule there though of varying nature. you need to read up on that.

So in the same vein you might as well know why the LTTE was formed and the specific event which unleashed the Tamil anger in Sri Lanka.

that land which LTTE was claiming belonged to sri lanka by all means.

Suppression solves the problem in the short run, agreed. But what needs to be done, and we have a very good example in Punjab, is introduce political packages immediately after the suppression of the militants. I believe that is in the making - albeit iron handed at first and then as the security situation becomes more relaxed, more privileges can be introduced

dont compare internal resistance with that of foreign oppression. punjab was very much part of india. just lik how FATA is part of pakistan or the land claimed by LTTE was part of sri lanka.

havent you introduced many political packages in Kashmir over last many decades? you kill one innocent and the who srinagar gets a paralysis attack.

 

[ajpirzada]

Yeah.

One more thing wars are fought on $$$$$. Thats why a country is ensuring that the supply of $$$$ remain intact to insurgents of her neighbouring countries.

KIT Over

no no. US has so far failed to secure a victory in afghanistan despite billions of dollars spent. in iraq again they had to cut a deal with locals after fuelling sectarian violence. if dollars could help you win a war then a trillion dollar is not a bad amount or is it.... lol

 

[blueoval79]

Blasts may have Pakistan link: Moscow

The Moscow Metro bombings may have a Pakistan connection, said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov as security experts warned of more terrorist attacks.

Mr. Lavrov suggested that militants operating on the Afghan-Pakistan border may have helped organise the Moscow attacks.

The death toll in Monday's suicide bombing of two Moscow subway stations rose to 39 as a woman wounded in the attack died in hospital on Tuesday. Five victims remain in critical condition and more than 70 in hospital.

“We all know very well that clandestine terrorists are very active in ‘no man's land' on the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan,” said Mr. Lavrov on the sidelines of a Foreign Ministers meeting of Arctic states in Canada.

“It is there many terrorist attacks carried out not only in Afghanistan and in neighbouring countries, but also in Central Asia and as far as the Caucasus, have been prepared.”

Mr. Lavrov called for closer coordination of international efforts to tract down terrorists and their sources of finance. “It is a global terrorist network and it should be combated globally on the basis of U.N. and other international decisions,” he said.

In the past two months, Russian security services killed two Al-Qaeda emissaries — both of Arab origin — in the entourage of Chechen rebel leader Doku Umarov, who proclaimed himself “Emir of the Caucasus” .

Experts did not rule out more terror strikes in Moscow and other Russian cities. Investigation sources told the Kommersant daily that about 30 suicide bombers had recently been trained in Turkey and in North Caucasus. Nine of them have already carried out their missions, including two women suicide bombers who staged Monday's twin attacks. Experts recall that the deadliest bombing of the Moscow Metro in February 2004, which killed 41 people, was followed by a series of suicide attacks in Moscow over the next few months that included the downing of two passenger planes and a bomb blast outside a subway station. The 2004 wave of terror culminated with the seizure of a school in North Ossetia, in which 334 hostages died, including 186 children.

The Hindu : News / International : Blasts may have Pakistan link: Moscow

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_******-trained-militants-could-be-behind-russia-blasts_1365409

 

[democracyspeaks]

gubbi

Chechnya was invaded by Russia? When?
IIRc, it was a part of the Russian Federation for a pretty long time. Now suddenly those people woke up one fine morning and decided to pick up a gun to vent their frustration against the state?

chechnya's struggle against russia goes back to 18th century when russia expanded into territories formerly under the dominion of Turkey and Persia. and there has always been resistance to russian rule there though of varying nature. you need to read up on that.

In my previous post also i have given the history of chechnya. They were the people who followed vainakh. Then they were invaded by turks and mongols and Islam was established.

Then they were defeated by the russians in the russian-turk war.

Now if turks can invade chechnya then thats valid, but if russia does and annexes it then thats invalid. Awsome

PS: Before the turks and mongol invasion Ivan the terrible had annexed chechnya and surroundings and had posted the Cossack guards.

So in the russian turk war they just took chechnya back from the turks.