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[godofwar]

If so, I'll wear it as a badge of honor, like the 'balidan badge'. Can't let somebody badmouth our democratic credentials and go unanswered, can we? It's the one social accomplishment that we can say we are as good as anybody else. India is not like many other brown skinned countries where democracy hasn't flourised, and electoral fraudd is rampant.

Just my way of noting how stupid it is to let some spiteful, peevish people do as they please on this forum

 

[kurup]

Come clean on ties with Agusta: India to Dassault

With the defence ministry all set to blacklist Agusta-Westland-Finmeccanica for the VVIP helicopter bribery scandal, it has asked French aircraft manufacturer Dassault to clarify whether the Anglo-Italian chopper company was supplying parts for its Rafale medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) slated to be acquired by India at the cost of $20 billion.

South Block sources said the ministry wanted to seek prior clarification from Dassault during the negotiation stage as it did not want to face legal or operational hurdles for spare parts after the 126-aircraft deal had been signed.“Dassault has been asked whether Agusta-Westland-Finmeccanica was original equipment manufacturer for the Rafale MMRCA as there were reports on the same. We have pointed out to Dassault that India was involved in litigation with the Anglo-Italian company over charges of bribery in the 12 VVIP helicopter purchase scandal,” said a senior defence ministry official. When contacted, an Indian representative of Dassault said on condition of anonymity that Rafale was 100% French and the helicopter company was not part of original equipment supplier for the MMRCA.While defence minister AK Antony is awaiting a CBI report on the VVIP helicopter scandal before formally blacklisting Agusta-Finmeccanica, there is pressure from within the services to delay the process, as the Anglo-Italian company supplies spare parts for US Apache and Chinook helicopters, which India is seeking to acquire from Washington.
The pressure from the services is quite evident, as the Italian helicopter company was inadvertently invited to Indian Defexpo in Delhi this month. But the fees, running into several crores of rupees, was refunded and invitation withdrawn after the ministry intervened at the highest levels.

“We want Dassault to clarify in writing that the helicopter company has nothing to do with MMRCA as there could be spare parts problems in future as under the rules defence ministry cannot deal with a company mired in bribery allegations in a contract,” said a senior official. The MMRCA deal is still a work in progress and will be signed by the next government.

Come clean on ties with Agusta: India to Dassault | idrw.org

 

[SpArK]

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Twin turbofan multi mission fighter.

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[cloud_9]

Come clean on ties with Agusta: India to Dassault

With the defence ministry all set to blacklist Agusta-Westland-Finmeccanica for the VVIP helicopter bribery scandal, it has asked French aircraft manufacturer Dassault to clarify whether the Anglo-Italian chopper company was supplying parts for its Rafale medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) slated to be acquired by India at the cost of $20 billion.

South Block sources said the ministry wanted to seek prior clarification from Dassault during the negotiation stage as it did not want to face legal or operational hurdles for spare parts after the 126-aircraft deal had been signed.“Dassault has been asked whether Agusta-Westland-Finmeccanica was original equipment manufacturer for the Rafale MMRCA as there were reports on the same. We have pointed out to Dassault that India was involved in litigation with the Anglo-Italian company over charges of bribery in the 12 VVIP helicopter purchase scandal,” said a senior defence ministry official. When contacted, an Indian representative of Dassault said on condition of anonymity that Rafale was 100% French and the helicopter company was not part of original equipment supplier for the MMRCA.While defence minister AK Antony is awaiting a CBI report on the VVIP helicopter scandal before formally blacklisting Agusta-Finmeccanica, there is pressure from within the services to delay the process, as the Anglo-Italian company supplies spare parts for US Apache and Chinook helicopters, which India is seeking to acquire from Washington.
The pressure from the services is quite evident, as the Italian helicopter company was inadvertently invited to Indian Defexpo in Delhi this month. But the fees, running into several crores of rupees, was refunded and invitation withdrawn after the ministry intervened at the highest levels.

“We want Dassault to clarify in writing that the helicopter company has nothing to do with MMRCA as there could be spare parts problems in future as under the rules defence ministry cannot deal with a company mired in bribery allegations in a contract,” said a senior official. The MMRCA deal is still a work in progress and will be signed by the next government.

Come clean on ties with Agusta: India to Dassault | idrw.org

Goverment ministeries are full of idiotic bureaucrats or the so called High Achievers of the Indian society

 

[Abingdonboy]

Come clean on ties with Agusta: India to Dassault

With the defence ministry all set to blacklist Agusta-Westland-Finmeccanica for the VVIP helicopter bribery scandal, it has asked French aircraft manufacturer Dassault to clarify whether the Anglo-Italian chopper company was supplying parts for its Rafale medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) slated to be acquired by India at the cost of $20 billion.

South Block sources said the ministry wanted to seek prior clarification from Dassault during the negotiation stage as it did not want to face legal or operational hurdles for spare parts after the 126-aircraft deal had been signed.“Dassault has been asked whether Agusta-Westland-Finmeccanica was original equipment manufacturer for the Rafale MMRCA as there were reports on the same. We have pointed out to Dassault that India was involved in litigation with the Anglo-Italian company over charges of bribery in the 12 VVIP helicopter purchase scandal,” said a senior defence ministry official. When contacted, an Indian representative of Dassault said on condition of anonymity that Rafale was 100% French and the helicopter company was not part of original equipment supplier for the MMRCA.While defence minister AK Antony is awaiting a CBI report on the VVIP helicopter scandal before formally blacklisting Agusta-Finmeccanica, there is pressure from within the services to delay the process, as the Anglo-Italian company supplies spare parts for US Apache and Chinook helicopters, which India is seeking to acquire from Washington.
The pressure from the services is quite evident, as the Italian helicopter company was inadvertently invited to Indian Defexpo in Delhi this month. But the fees, running into several crores of rupees, was refunded and invitation withdrawn after the ministry intervened at the highest levels.

“We want Dassault to clarify in writing that the helicopter company has nothing to do with MMRCA as there could be spare parts problems in future as under the rules defence ministry cannot deal with a company mired in bribery allegations in a contract,” said a senior official. The MMRCA deal is still a work in progress and will be signed by the next government.

Come clean on ties with Agusta: India to Dassault | idrw.org

Didn't IDRW run a story last wee saying the MoD/Antony ad decided to back away from blacklisting AW?!!

 

[Asian.Century]

IAF has lost in high tech 4.5+ Generation jets against China & Pakistan.

India should go for Rafale jets, before it's too late. Too late & political delays means lack of decision making, failure and the French are surely going to increase prices massively.

 

[faithfulguy]

IAF has lost in high tech 4.5+ Generation jets against China & Pakistan.

India should go for Rafale jets, before it's too late. Too late & political delays means lack of decision making, failure and the French are surely going to increase prices massively.

With the collapse of rupee, Indian might not be able to afford anything.

 

[Taygibay]

Links to Agusta?
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj146/Metal-Eater-GR/Gigifies/1367993575384_zps9c017241.gif

Shouldn't there be a position, be it an MP or MoD official, dedicated to answer such idiots to prevent them from losing the government's time by asking moronic questions of the sort? In France, it would be the Délégué Général à l'Armement ( Armament General Delegate )'s job!
Biographie du délégué général pour l'armement
He's authorized to answer in Parliamentary commissions and hearings, etc.

But if South Block sources really refer to MoD people, they should be squarely fired for incompetence. No wonder procurements take so long when supposed professionals make such claims?

Sorry for the rant but these every other day *facepalm*news bits are unf......believable!

Good day all, Tay.

P.S. Thanks SpArK for the simple logic answer.

 

[Gessler]

IAF has lost in high tech 4.5+ Generation jets against China & Pakistan.

As of date, we are the only one among the 3 (India, Pak, China) to have operational 4.5 gen aircraft
with ESA radars and TVC engines.

 

[trident2010]

IAF has lost in high tech 4.5+ Generation jets against China & Pakistan.

India should go for Rafale jets, before it's too late. Too late & political delays means lack of decision making, failure and the French are surely going to increase prices massively.

What PAF has now that IAF did not have 10 years back?

Stop comparing yourself with China. PAF has nothing to show. IAF can ruin PAF with its current inventory in coming 20 years. Its PLAAF we are aiming to counter and thus all the fuss.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Links to Agusta?
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj146/Metal-Eater-GR/Gigifies/1367993575384_zps9c017241.gif

Shouldn't there be a position, be it an MP or MoD official, dedicated to answer such idiots to prevent them from losing the government's time by asking moronic questions of the sort? In France, it would be the Délégué Général à l'Armement ( Armament General Delegate )'s job!
Biographie du délégué général pour l'armement
He's authorized to answer in Parliamentary commissions and hearings, etc.

But if South Block sources really refer to MoD people, they should be squarely fired for incompetence. No wonder procurements take so long when supposed professionals make such claims?

Sorry for the rant but these every other day *facepalm*news bits are unf......believable!

Good day all, Tay.

P.S. Thanks SpArK for the simple logic answer.

That's just the problem- sheer incompetence and ignorance. It comes from the very top in the MoD too, the Defence Minister is largely ignorant to all such things and is purely interested in keeping his "clean" image and to keep every single defence deal clear of even the HINT of wrong-doing. 9/10,nay-99.99% of the time all these allegations and such turn out to be NOTHING but vested interests sticking their oar in or something similar. End result is purely delay after delay.

 

[shuntmaster]

A big step in India's Rafale jet deal with France

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File photo: A French Dassault Rafale fighter performs in an air show over Le Bourget airport, north of Paris
New Delhi: The Centre and French aerospace major Dassault have taken a big step forward in the deal for 126 Rafale fighter jets to be supplied to India.

Dassault Aviation and the government's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited or HAL have sealed a work share agreement almost two years after negotiations began - HAL will build 70 per cent of the aircraft, sources said.

India will acquire 18 of the 126 Rafale fighter jets it is buying from France in "fly away" condition, and the rest will be manufactured by HAL.

The final contract, though, is still far from being signed. For one, India's Ministry of Defence has no money in the current financial year that ends this month, for initial payment. Also, general elections are due by May and the final contract will only be signed by the next government, if it chooses to go ahead on the same terms and conditions.

Dassault Aviation had won the contract to supply 126 Medium, multi-role combat aircraft or MMRCA in 2012. The massive contract is pegged anywhere between 12 to 15 billion dollars.

Dassault has had reservations over HAL's capacity to absorb complex technology and wanted to rope in other private sector companies for manufacturing the jets in India. The Defence Ministry, however, told the French company that HAL would remain the lead player.

Sources said the deal is complex and requires both sides to be in sync on commercial factors, logistics and HAL's ability to assemble the Rafale.

For instance, the radar on the Rafale jet is to be manufactured by Bharat-Electronics Ltd (BEL) in Bangalore. The Radome (the protruding snub nose on the aircraft) would, however, be manufactured by HAL at its Hyderabad facility. Dassault wanted clarity on how the two units would coordinate their activities.

Now, HAL has apparently agreed to set up a new facility close to the one that BEL has in Bangalore.

Dassault's officials are simultaneously negotiating with different divisions of HAL based in cities like Lucknow, Nashik, Bangalore and Hyderabad.

The French and Indian governments are also working on an agreement for a sovereign guarantee that Dassault will supply, service and maintain the Rafales over the next 40 years.

This is an important provision in the Indian defence procurement procedure, designed to ensure that manufacturers don't renege on their commitment.

 

[IND151]

India seals Rafale jet deal with French firm | idrw.org

 

[ejaz007]

India’s M-MRCA Fighter Competition: “Thank you, HAL”

Latest Update:

March 2/14: Workshare deal. Dassault and HAL have reportedly established an initial workshare agreement for Indian Rafales. Dassault will provide the first 18 planes from its own factories in fly-away condition. After that, HAL will be responsible for directing 70% of the work in India, while Dassault remains responsible for 30%.

Negotiations have included industrial coordination, as well as straight workshare. For instance, RBE2-AA AESA radar production will be outsourced to state-owned Bharat-Electronics Ltd (BEL) in Bangalore, while the corresponding radome will be manufactured by HAL. One step toward the agreement involved HAL setting up a new facility close to the one that BEL has in Bangalore, so that issues with radome or radar production won’t create compatibility problems that leave India’s Rafales unable to meet acceptance tests.

Per February revelations, the deal will have to be finalized by whichever government wins India’s coming election. Sources: Indian Express, “India seals Rafale jet deal with French firm” | NDTV, “A big step in India’s Rafale jet deal with France”.

India’s M-MRCA Fighter Competition: “Thank you, HAL”