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[SpArK]

PHOTOS: Typhoons Arrive At Yelahanka For Aero India 2011​

Livefist: PHOTOS: Typhoons Arrive At Yelahanka For Aero India 2011

 

[sancho]

http://www.raytheon.com.au/rtnwcm/groups/rau/documents/download/rau_factsheet_apg79aesa.pdf

Thanks, but I know the factfile and it doesn't give a figure for target detection, or engagement. Do you have any other sources?

i have no problem with american jets but problem is with your chased agreements like cismoa,euma(which we signed ), etc.
i fear america can listen to indian communications which goes through US supplied com equipments.weapons using gps are at mercy of americans mood.america will come to know each and every target prior to attack..true or false ?i need some clarification on this matters..

It's not about the com systems, because they could be replaced just like we do it with P8I, or C130Js. The main problem of buying US fighters, that are aimed on fighting possibly even Pakistan (one of their closest alleys in the region) are the restrictions and laws that limits the control. We can't buy something that is so important like a frontline fighter and let foreign countries look at them whenever they want to, or tell them anytime we want to use it against an enemy. The same laws and restrictions also limits ToT of important techs, that we need to improve our own industry, just think about Tejas development, they wasn't even ready to allow consultancy at navalising LCA, let alone co-developments of radar and engine.
The European offers (the Russian of course too), don't have these problems.
They are ready to help and improve our industry, with JV, co.developments much ToT, no restriction and some of them are even totally sanction proof! If MMRCA has a focus on ToT and industrial benefits and improvements and the US don't reduce their restrictions in these fields, there should be no doubt that especially the Rafale and EF offers are the best for us.

 

[SpArK]

YouTube - RAFALE by L.Charlet from SpArK

 

[the rafter]

YouTube - Eurofighter Typhoon - Technology, Weapon Systems & International Co-operation: Aloysius Rauen, CEO

YouTube - The Black Rafale

YouTube - F/A18 Super Hornet F18 fighter attack jet display at Farnborough International Air Show 2010 HD

 

[the rafter]

IAF may get 'Star Wars' helmet from European consortium
NEW DELHI: A hi-tech helmet, reminiscent of movies like "Star Wars" and "Firefox" as it helps fighter pilots operate air RAF) through a seemingly fictional vision-and-voice command, has been offered to India by European consortium EADS .

The helmet also enables pilots to view enemy planes by just turning their heads and picking targets for the aircraft to shoot down. It has been offered under the $10.4 billion combat plane tender.

"Designed and developed by British aerospace major BAE Systems, the helmet is part of optional purchases India could make if it chooses to go with the Eurofighter Typhoon plane in the medium multi-role combat aircraft ( MMRCA ) tender," an official of Cassidian, EADS' defence and security arm, said here Friday.

"We have given this option to the Indian Air Force (IAF) if it decides in favour of our aircraft," the official said.

The helmet-mounted symbology system, released last July by BAE, is getting ready for use by Royal Air Force (RAF) pilots flying the Eurofighter Typhoon this year. It may soon be worn by Spanish, German and Italian fighter pilots flying the Eurofighter Typhoon.

BAE Systems had in its press release a month ago called the helmet "something out of Star Wars", a reference to its capabilities that seem straight out of some sci-fi movie. The company said the helmet let the pilot see through the body of the aircraft.

"Using the new helmet system, the pilot can now look at multiple targets, lock-on to them, and then, by voice-command, prioritise them. It's a lightning-fast system to let the pilot look, lock-on, and fire," the BAE Systems' release said.

A similar system was also showcased in the 1982 sci-fi action flick "Firefox", which starred Clint Eastwood in the lead, in which the Americans send a pilot on a mission to steal a Russian technology by which a fictional MiG-31 fighter jet can be controlled through a neuralink.

The helmet, with a number of sensors linked to the aircraft's computer-enabled systems, helps the pilot to view or sense enemy aircraft beyond visual range by moving his head in the direction of the target even as he flies away from its path. The out of sight enemy targets are picked up by the aircraft's radars.

This capability ensures that the aircraft knows exactly where and what the pilot is looking at and will zero-in on multiple targets to fire its weapons based on priority listed by him, which in turn is based on speed, heading, height and positions of enemy aircraft or missiles as displayed on the helmet's visor.
IAF may get 'Star Wars' helmet from European consortium - The Economic Times

 

[Mani2020]

Well in beauty context , i really admire the beauty of Rafale

The sleek curves near the intakes makes it eye catching

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

Well in beauty context , i really admire the beauty of Rafale

The sleek curves near the intakes makes it eye catching

well..she is beautiful..but the ugly typhoon would be more powerful..that's what we need.

 

[GORKHALI]

once upon a time in mumbai i think its 2004 during staic display ,just this one remain for memory

 

[the rafter]

once upon a time in mumbai i think its 2004 during staic display ,just this one remain for memory

What's the relevance of this pic with MMRCA?

 

[sancho]

well..she is beautiful..but the ugly typhoon would be more powerful..that's what we need.

True it's more powerful, but we need capabilities and that's where it's still lack behind (weapon and tech integration, tech development). Not to forget that it has no alternative for IN and I'm sure they will link these competitions, that's why I still see the F18SH with higher chances then the EF.

P.S. First pic of Rafale at AERO INDIA:

 

[the rafter]

Yet another summary of MMRCA competition:
YouTube - Aero India 2011

 

[sancho]

Yet another summary of MMRCA competition:

Which confirms several issues again:

US fighters - restrictions, especially on ToT

Gripen - no strategic / political value

EF - not all capabilities are available, especially the AESA radar, which is only industrial funded

Rafale - French ego?

Mig 35 - with Su 30 and FGFA, the Mig deal is unlikely

 

[the rafter]

Indian firm Maini Group to make components for Eurofighter Typhoon, Airbus planes - The Economic Times

BANGALORE: In one of the largest aerospace outsourcing contracts awarded to a mid-tier Indian firm, Bangalore-based Maini Group has bagged a multi-million dollar contract from German engine maker MTU Aero-Engines to make components for Eurofighter Typhoon and Airbus planes.

The engineering group, best known as maker of Reva, the country's first ever electric passenger car, will develop engine components for multi-role combat aircraft Eurofighter Typhoon and next generation A380 and A320 planes of Airbus, the world's largest aircraft maker. The deal will be signed during the Bangalore Air Show (Aero India 2011) which takes off on 9th February.

"With the commercial aero-engine market expected to generate about $740 billion sales over the next 20 years, we are now looking forward to growing the relationship with MTU on a strategic level," said Naresh Palta, chief executive, Maini Aerospace. "The group will invest around $30-40 million in the next 4-5 years to scale up its infrastructure and capacity," said Palta, who was earlier an executive director at public sector major, Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL). Last year, the group bagged an outsourcing contract worth up to $10 million from Marshall Aerospace , subcontractors for Boeing , the world's largest aerospace company.

"The timing of Maini's transformation to Aerospace is right. It will take them another five years to actually see the results," says B Mahadevan, professor, production and operations management, at the Indian Institute of Management, Bangalore (IIM-B).

The contract work will be led by group companies Maini Precision Products (MPP), including its subsidiary company Maini Global Aerospace (MGA). The multi-year contract now positions the Mainis as strategic suppliers to the German major that has total revenues of $ 3.5 billion and partners with aero-engine manufacturers such as GE, Pratt & Whitney and Rolls-Royce to source aero-engine components.

"For them this is the India test, to see whether private industry in India can actually deliver as per the German standards," said Gautam Maini, managing director, Maini Precision, who led the aerospace foray for the group even as younger brother Chetan Maini made waves with Reva. "Aerospace is going to be a big market in 5-8 years. The business cycle ranges between 7 and 8 years. It was a quantum shift, something we had to believe for a long-term," says Maini.

Maini Aerospace , which got Snecma, a major French manufacturer of engines, as its first customer, has now developed more than 900 build-to-print parts in the past six years. These involve contracts from global customers such as Safran, BAE Systems , Eaton, Goodrich and Magellan Aerospace . It is also working with state-owned HAL to make components for various projects.

 

[the rafter]

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[bhagat]