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So it wasn't any air exercise ,but the trials we are looking at.
Don't think that this was a part of the trials, but some flights around the time, yes.
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So it wasn't any air exercise ,but the trials we are looking at.
I think India will choose F-18, because MMS wants to go with USA. The delay is because some group of IAF officers want to go Russian or European. Now the delay is ending, it means MMS is pushing for quick acceptance of US offer.
F-18 will also give India access to F-35. India's strategic thinking should be that it wants to balance between Russia and USA. So it wants participation in T-50 related Russian programs and it wants to participate in F-35. The IN will also want F-35.
The least likely is Rafale or Eurofighter because they are too expensive. The cost of ownership over lifetime, not just the upfront costs, would be tremendous too.
The ramjet-engined Meteor will arm Dassault Rafale fighters in French air force and navy service, with deliveries to commence in 2018,
Great news indeed for rafale lovers lol:
Also when gripen NG is fielded and tested then what is the problem, this means atleast we have seen what we are getting but in other cases we have not even seen what actually we are getting. Rafale and typhoon tested by IAF never even had aesa or thrust vectoring as claimed by typhoon.
AESA in Rafale is already tested but they have not yet started upgrading their fighter.
According to IAF's requirement none of the fighter are suitable. Every fighter had to include some new technology to meet the requirement. Like Rafale, they didn't had AESA they now developed it. Eurofighter didn't have AESA and thrust vectoring tech, but they are developing.
Sorry i didn't get your point. Gripen had a fully developed aesa long before Rafale, eurofighter and MIG35 and it is tested on the fighter. Mig35 and Rafale has also developed their aesa and typhoon will also develop in future but the point is these things have to tested.
Look buddy if it is upto me i would select typhoon, but its the most expensive in the competition.
I can't find enough but i think you are mistaken, Gripen NG will be fielded with GE414. Right now it works on Volvo Aero Corporation RM12 which is jointly developed by Volvo-GE for Gripen and is completely based on General Electric F-404-400 (80 KN (18,000lb) thrust class).
Look man, they are just going of thrust increase. As per gripen website its just is simple upgrade and according to my opinion if the facts written are true then its something we should not be worried.
Wow man....really i salute you....plz share the intel with us, after all this is why we are here....
Bye the way, i don't see IRST as a feature that would effect too much as it is available in many flying machines and i think Sweden must have tested it on any of them.
Also gripen has the best data link which is important for the mission completion.
Just tell me one thing....recently rafale started falling down, if tomorrow France start to field down their Rafale then what we will do. Look it might not appear as a big problem to you but this is one of the problem which is drawing rafale back. On the other hand gripen is already 270 on order, same with eurofighter.
Although the thing which is against gripen is their borrowed parts from all over the world.
I think that 3 supplier agreement was meant only for this.
I think India will choose F-18, because MMS wants to go with USA. The delay is because some group of IAF officers want to go Russian or European. Now the delay is ending, it means MMS is pushing for quick acceptance of US offer.
F-18 will also give India access to F-35. India's strategic thinking should be that it wants to balance between Russia and USA. So it wants participation in T-50 related Russian programs and it wants to participate in F-35. The IN will also want F-35.
The least likely is Rafale or Eurofighter because they are too expensive. The cost of ownership over lifetime, not just the upfront costs, would be tremendous too.
Mig-35 is unlikely because that would be interpreted as a snub to USA. MMS's nose is firmly behind USA.
Gripen is a possibility though. It suits India's needs (just like LCA is supposed to suit India's needs). But I still think the F-35 offer and USA alliance is too sweet for MMS to pass up.
Great news indeed for rafale lovers lol:
extimated cost of fighter aircraft (year 2006)
Rafale = USD135ml (114ml euro)
Gripen =USD76ml
F-18 =USD95ml
Eurofighter=USD140ml (118ml euro)
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/dae/articles/communiques/FighterCostFinalJuly06.pdf
TAXES: VAT rates and export prices
Prices used in this study are inclusive of value-added tax (VAT), where applicable, as the basis we
used is the cost billed to national customers.
Consequently, the export prices of European aircraft should be reduced by the amount of national
VAT, which is not applicable on export contracts. Thus, the basic export price of a single-seat
Rafale C drops to 41.5 million euros ($ 49.8 million) after deduction of Frances VAT of 19.6%...
...Saab-BAE Systems JAS-39 GRIPEN
Program Unit Cost : $ 76.07 million
Unit Procurement Cost: $ 68.90 million ($55.1 million excluding VAT)
Apart from MMS bashing, ur post is reasonable one.
Not sure how reliable this calculation is, because it actually says the Rafale flyaway cost is lower than of the Gripen C/D.
confused ?,(as always)
Program Unit Cost : it includes the cost of R&D and support systems and actually the cost the customer pays..
Unit Procurement Cost: it the cost of constructing the aircraft at the fectory..
it is the program unit cost that's matters...
Rafale = USD135ml (114ml euro)
Gripen =USD76ml
Agapanthe 2010 : mission accomplished
Last December, 25th, the CdG and her airgroup have leaved the Pakistani cost after 31 days of non stop mission above Afghanistan.
180 missons were flew among which...
...After a brief Stop at the UAE, the CdG is sailing to India where it will participate in joint exercices with the India Navy