Dalai Lama to retire from political life

[cross1993]

Indians just do not understand the philosophy "潜龙勿用."
If not have a strong central govt, weak countries is difficult rise.

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

ok now i get it why every year millions of ur sorry poor fellowers leaving the slum to escape from life time slavery from ur gov, lol cheap shooter!

Looks like you haven't had enough of yesterday's flogging, so you are coming back with more verbal diarrhia.

China has the world's largest slum population. Source: UN-HABITAT http://www.unhabitat.org/documents/media_centre/APMC/Slum%20trends%20in%20Asia.pdf

lol a cheap shooter asks others to stay on topic, lol!

And yet, you continue with your psycho-babble. Honestly, it seems to me as if you enjoy getting humiliated.

 

[cross1993]

I am afraid it is what the English would say 'gibberish' to me.

Translate in English if you will so that a non Chinese can understand.

I think it should not be difficult. I have even enumerated it in point form to make it easy. Surely, each can be given one line enjoinder, can it not?

That is the evidence you have requested.
The Chinese government asked the Dalai Lama return to Tibet.

http://www.sinovision.net/index.php?module=news&act=details&news_id=76615
http://news.enorth.com.cn/system/2009/10/16/004236813.shtml

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Looks like you haven't had enough of yesterday's flogging, so you are coming back with more verbal diarrhia.

China has the world's largest slum population. Source: UN-HABITAT http://www.unhabitat.org/documents/media_centre/APMC/Slum%20trends%20in%20Asia.pdf

And yet, you continue with your psycho-babble. Honestly, it seems to me as if you enjoy getting humiliated.

What hypocrisy.

BBC News - More poor in India than Africa

 

[cross1993]

Looks like you haven't had enough of yesterday's flogging, so you are coming back with more verbal diarrhia.

China has the world's largest slum population. Source: UN-HABITAT http://www.unhabitat.org/documents/media_centre/APMC/Slum%20trends%20in%20Asia.pdf



And yet, you continue with your psycho-babble. Honestly, it seems to me as if you enjoy getting humiliated.

Your message out of date. Look at this:
Poverty threshold - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

China and India is very similar to the population. Can you guess which country has more poor people?

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

Honestly, it seems to me as if you guys have nothing better to do than troll and derail threads. Let me give you a brief glimpse of how this conversation will progress:

Chinese Guy: Indian slum population
Me: China has the largest slum population in the world
Chinese Guy: India's poor
Me: China has no human rights
Chinese Guy: India sex ratio
Me: No right to reproduce in China
Chinese Guy: No Toilets in India
Me: Freedom to poop wherever we want, did you take permission from the Party?
Chinese Guy: You're a cheapshot and a troll
Me: No you are.

Seriously guys, I've been there, done that. If you have something new to say, please do, otherwise, stay on the freaking topic.

 

[Brotherhood]

Extreme Poverty and Hunger in India

by Prakash, Delhi, India


Despite the economic growth and outsourcing of foreign jobs by western companies to India, majority of the Indian population still wallow in extreme poverty and disease. Behind India’s new-found economic strength are three hundred million poor people that live on less than $1 per day. Government figures may indicate a reduction in poverty. But the truth is, with increasing global food prices, poverty is spreading everywhere like a swarm of locust. Conditions are worst in the rural areas where close to 70% of India’s population resides. Statistics show, that 2.1 million children under 5 years old die of malnutrition yearly.

India is not be rated as the most corrupt country in the world as far as the figures go but corrupt practices exist here in India like any other place in Africa. Public school teachers rarely go for classes but still get paid at the end of the month. The ministry of education in India is struggling to identify thousands of so-called ghost-worker names of teachers that only exist on payroll – yet victory is far-fetched.

Mumbai is beautiful and businesses are flourishing but that is for the privileged few. The poor, who are majority, live in slums. They can only see and fantasize about the beautiful things in the city of Mumbai, but can't benefit. The streets of major cities in India, like the rural areas, are populated by persons who can’t even get the minimum amount of calories that is required for survival due to the low quality of food they eat. To many Indians, basic amenities such as proper sanitation, portable water, and health care are luxuries they can only get in their dreams.

Many young girls have resorted to prostitution as a way to escape from poverty and provide for their families. Increasing number of girls are dropping out of schools to look for jobs. In some extreme cases, parents force their girls out of school themselves. This ugly trend spells doom for India’s economy in the future.

As families cut back at the number, quality and quantity of food they consume per day; meat, a source of protein, is no more an option in the menu of many families. People now opt for less nutritional meals – just to put something in the stomach— which has a bad effect on child’s growth. Meanwhile, it’s estimated that 40% of children in India are suffering from stunted growth.

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

@CD and cross: I'm not quoting your posts because you don't realize what was being discussed. Your friend brought in SLUMS, not POVERTY, as an issue to troll into this thread. Learn to read.

@Brotherhood: Look at my post above yours. Am I able to predict your thought process or what?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Honestly, it seems to me as if you guys have nothing better to do than troll and derail threads. Let me give you a brief glimpse of how this conversation will progress:

Chinese Guy: Indian slum population
Me: China has the largest slum population in the world
Chinese Guy: India's poor
Me: China has no human rights
Chinese Guy: India sex ratio
Me: No right to reproduce in China
Chinese Guy: No Toilets in India
Me: Freedom to poop wherever we want, did you take permission from the Party?
Chinese Guy: You're a cheapshot and a troll
Me: No you are.

Seriously guys, I've been there, done that. If you have something new to say, please do, otherwise, stay on the freaking topic.

Funny, since you're the one who is always starting it.

I can only conclude that you enjoy hearing about poverty in India, which is why you're trying to flamebait us constantly.

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

Funny, since you're the one who is always starting it.

I can only conclude that you enjoy hearing about poverty in India, which is why you're trying to flamebait us constantly.

Am I? Go through the thread. Just because I didn't ignore the trolls doesn't mean I started it.

 

[Brotherhood]

I'm not quoting your posts because you don't realize what was being discussed. Your friend brought in SLUMS, not POVERTY, as an issue to troll into this thread. Learn to read.

@Brotherhood: Look at my post above yours. Am I able to predict your thought process or what?

Seriously, who is talking to you? have i quote your troll post in the first place? bug off please.

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

Seriously, who is talking to you? have i quote your troll post in the first place? bug off please.

Hahahaha, feeling insulted? Humiliated? Happens when you make predictable troll posts.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

The Monkeys in bare are proud they can run naked in the forest and laugh at the human living in the city saying look you have no freedom but law...

I repeat:
1. Chinese people believe that, Chinese-style Democracy is people-oriented and Prosperous life.
Chinese people believe that the reality and Collectivism, Chinese people believe that prosperous life important than a single vote.
We know Western media hopes that China has a bloody revolution, to terminate the rise of China, but that is impossible.

2. Ordinary Chinese people can become president, but not through the media to get the seat. You have to start from the most junior civil servants, You must through capacity and effort been promoted again and again, So he is definitely not a fool who can be president.
So USA had some good president, for example: Clinton, Bush(old)...and USA also had some bad president, for example(only my opinion): Bush(young), Obama...But the China National policy is very stable. That is the advantage of the Chinese govt.

3. Wall Street can control USA gov through the media.
For example, family planning, state-owned enterprises reform, etc... these policies all can not implemented in the USA. Because selfish media will destroy it all, and USA President also did not dare to do it. But China can do it!

4. Does Hu Jintao have term limits ? Yes, 10 Years.
Does China's rights by one person to master it? No, nine people rule the country together. Hu Jintao's State Rights a lot less than Obama.

5. China will continue to increase democracy politics? Yes, Of course. China's model of democracy will be Nordic. We will continue political reform, never stops.

I am told that Chinese have a proud heritage and are a cultured people.

Your first line indicates otherwise.

Notwithstanding, could it be too much to ask that you have a civil tongue in your head and not expose the inherent crudeness that you display. I am sure that could not be genetic.

Your repetition reminds me of Geobbel. But let it pass.

1. Chinese people believe that, Chinese-style Democracy is people-oriented and Prosperous life.
Chinese people believe that the reality and Collectivism, Chinese people believe that prosperous life important than a single vote.

Indeed!

You may peruse this:

China's cancer villages bear witness to economic boom | Reuters

and maybe this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091013/ap_on_re_as/as_china_lead_poisoning

also this:

Amazing Pictures, Pollution in China | ChinaHush

So. ordinary people can become Presidents in China. Sure. No one denies it. Deng was a peasant and he became the Head, so to say.

But you have to be a Communist and you have to bow down to the leader. He was purged twice because he did not agree with Mao.

Liu Shaoqi was declared a 'Capitalist-roader' and a traitor, but was posthumously rehabilitated by Deng Xiaoping's government in 1980 and given a state funeral.

so, it means that you have to kowtow and be agreeable to the Leader in Power and not based on your merit.

if Mao had not purged Deng, China would have been riding high much earlier than what is current!!

Wall Street control the US govt. Maybe.

May we look at China and who controls it?

The People's Republic of China suffers from widespread corruption. For 2008, China was ranked 72 of 179 countries in Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index. Means of corruption include graft, bribery, embezzlement, backdoor deals, nepotism, patronage, and statistical falsification.
Lü 2000, p.10

Cadre corruption in post-1949 China lies in the "organizational involution" of the ruling party, including the regime's policies, institutions, norms, and failure to adapt to a changing environment in the post-Mao era.
# ^ Lü 2000, p.229

ruling Chinese Communist Party (CCP) "one of the most corrupt organisations the world has ever witnessed," according to Will Hutton.
^ Will Hutton, "Power, corruption and lies", The Guardian, January 8, 2007

All are well aware who runs China. Check the earlier posts on Chinese committees and their powers.

indeed China will carry out political reforms forever. it requires such a long span to come to where the world governance of free people is!

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Slums?

Yes in a democracy it is not possible to demolish them.

But in a totalitarian regime, it is always possible and the people are not material.

Don't believe it. Here is what China Daily has reported. Some extracts:

The onus to stop developers in their ugly design rests upon local governments and the judiciary

Demolitions have become a common phenomenon as urbanization intensifies across the world. But this phenomenon is different in China, where forced demolitions are becoming more like public power violating basic civil rights. Such acts have been widely criticized by the public and the media, though.

In his report to the National People's Congress (NPC) on Aug 24, 2007, the then minister of construction said the Urban Housing Demolition Management Regulation was contrary to the newly passed Property Rights Law and, hence, should be repealed. Four days later, the NPC Standing Committee accepted that the then existing demolition regulations were contrary to law and even the Constitution. That in a way marked the beginning of the post-demolition era in China......

forced demolition has not stopped. In fact, just the opposite has happened: more forcible demolitions have been seen across the country. Economic development is only an excuse for such acts. Local officials are prompted to order or help forcible demolitions because they get them money....

True, many high-rises have come up in the past few years. But they have been built at the cost of growing discontent among people. If the authorities want to see the political ideal of a harmonious society fructify then they have to stop forcible demolitions immediately.....

When policemen appear at a demolition site, not as protectors of civil rights but to help demolishers, they trample upon social justice. How can we ask ordinary citizens to respect the law, while law enforcers violate their rights?...

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2010-06/16/content_9979471_1.htm

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Salim, any comments on this post?

Hong Kong has never been democratic. We have never been able to vote for our leaders, we have never had "universal suffrage".

Yet our GDP per capita is 30 times higher than that of India! We have the second-highest life expectancy in the world, high standard of living, one of the lowest crimes rates in the world, terrorism here is virtually non-existant, etc.

Would I prefer to live in a "non-democratic" Hong Kong... or in a poor and "democratic" India?

The answer is obviously Hong Kong.