Cousin marriages (we need to talk about this)

[Samurai_assassin]

Hard to believe little one, when you claim Manchester and Bradford are alike? Internet fantasists alert!

Well maybe make your next visit to Manchester perhaps not the Lake District as you'll easily confuse it with the Yorkshire Dales.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Hard to believe little one, when you claim Manchester and Bradford are alike? Internet fantasists alert!

i never said all of manchester. there's parts of manchester thats all white. whilst if you go to the wilmslow road area you'll see what im on about.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

It's not Islamic bashing it's common sense why din't Allah forbid such a risky thing!! I and my siblings have been suffering because of this


This is true, too many risks!! I am suffering today becaus of this

Why don't you ask an imam perhaps? Keep away from Shiekh Google though!

 

[Verve]

Cousin marriages are fine, as long as gene pool is refreshed regularly. Generations upon generations of first cousin marriages I do not think should be encouraged due to the increased chances of the likes of down syndrome. A regular genepool refresh is a must.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

i never said all of manchester. there's parts of manchester thats all white. whilst if you go to the wilmslow road area you'll see what im on about.

Hmmmm and the area of wilmslow road is heavily populated by Pakistanis right? asians have packed up and fled a few years ago. wilmslow road has become little Arabia with almost every food outlet serving middle eastern food but plenty of white folks there also as main universities are walking distance.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Hmmmm and the area of wilmslow road is heavily populated by Pakistanis right? asians have packed up and fled a few years ago. wilmslow road has become little Arabia with almost every food outlet serving middle eastern food but plenty of white folks there also as main universities are walking distance.

you need to go there again i was there last tuesday.the wimslow road area does have a large pakistani population but agreed its not ag big as it used to be. yes Manchester met and university of Manchester does bring in large number of multi ethnic people. but if you go to the deans-gate as an example area theres hardy any there.

Well maybe make your next visit to Manchester perhaps not the Lake District as you'll easily confuse it with the Yorkshire Dales.

your argueing with your self . lamo

 

[EpiiC]

My two cents on this - I think cousin marriages are bad. The research is pretty clear on this. The real problem is not one event (cousin marriage) but the repeated cycles. One photocopy might be okay but if you keep making copies of those copies slowly 'faults' start aggregating. Go to any special needs school and you will see Pakistani origin children dominate the percentages. When the fvck is the Pakistani community going to recognize this? I often see those school vans carrying special needs children in my city and sadly too often I see Pak faces staring out from the bus. Seriously?

Symmetry is indication of healthy stock. I just see too many Pak people with ears going north and south. Nostrils bulging on one side. Eyes out of wack. Crouching posture. Too short and podgy. Too tall and skinny. I see this more amongst Mirpuri Pakistani's who I think have made cousin marriages almost a religious undertaking.

Although on this score I have seen Indian Gujrati and Banglas who take this asymmetry to altogether another level. Sikhs do very well compared to rest of Indians. These of course are generalizations I am giving or what they call in maths the 'mode'.

And producing statistics that Pak population has higher IQ then India etc is not going to help. It is my belief that cousin marriages is more recent phenomenon. In history the region that was Pakistan was too unstable and was riven with instability which would have caused much whipping of the genetic pool.

@Mugwop I am intrigued how you look. African people have been blessed with the best body frame that nature can endow. There is functional beauty to it that no other people can match. There may or may not be a IQ compensatory loss but often the physical gain is staggering.

Bro your right, I am suffering from this right now, my sister that passed away was disabled.... My parents were first cousins and I've also have a friend who had a disabled brother, counsin marraige definitely too risky, and causes many physical and mental problems.... Whats the percentage in PAKISTAN FOR THIS?How many cousin marraiges are in Pak ? 50%?

 

[Kabira]

Cousin marriages are fine, as long as gene pool is refreshed regularly. Generations upon generations of first cousin marriages I do not think should be encouraged due to the increased chances of the likes of down syndrome. A regular genepool refresh is a must.

I will say why take chances? At least do genetic tests before marrying cousins.

 

[Hamza913]

My parents were cousins my mums dad and my dads mum were brother and sister so what does that make my parents 1st cousins ?

Yeah but don't worry unless it's a common family habit to get with your cousin, you will be fine genetically.

Actually we shouldn't worry about Pakistanis in Pakistan, IMO its not that much of a problem there. Its UK where most of your population comes from small area and now for some it has become a norm. In Pakistan is more like one event thing then generational cycle like in UK.

No, in the UK it will be weeded out as a practice since society there frowns upon it. In Pakistan, people are less educated and society is far less open about these things.

 

[Luffy 500]

As a muslim my position on the issue is - whatever Allah (SWT) made permissible is permissible and whatever He (SWT) made impermissible is impermissible. As such cousin marriage is permissible and its up to the individual. Both men and women have freedom of choice in choosing their spouse in Islam.

Btw both my parents are cousins( they are first in the family though and not a generational thing) and me and my 2 siblings are perfectly normal. In fact my younger 2 siblings are excelling academically Alhamdulillah and the youngest of them was born when my mother was in her late 30s. I myself have been academically average though. @dsr478

 

[Hamza913]

Does Islam encourage close cousin Marriage? I don't think Allah would encourage something this risky.

Islam doesn't encourage it but allows it. This is of course provided it doesn't occur regularly throughout the family.

As a muslim my position on the issue is - whatever Allah (SWT) made permissible is permissible and whatever He (SWT) made impermissible is impermissible. As such cousin marriage is permissible and its up to the individual. Both men and women have freedom of choice in choosing their spouse in Islam.

Btw both my parents are cousins( they are first in the family though and not a generational thing) and me and my 2 siblings are perfectly normal. In fact my younger 2 siblings are excelling academically Alhamdulillah and the youngest of them was born when my mother was in her late 30s. I myself have been academically average though. @dsr478

Of course, hence why I say it's fine as a once off occurrence. But if it becomes a generational habit, then yeah issues will arise. Islam itself encourages marrying people from completely different backgrounds.

My parents have cousin marriage My sister was born disabled and past away few years ago.... ... Close cousin marriage is sickening and should not be encouraged and even Doctors have said all this due to close cousin marriage of my parents because of my grandparents....

I'm sorry to hear that man, this is why the practice needs to stop as a generational habit.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

you need to go there again i was there last tuesday.the wimslow road area does have a large pakistani population but agreed its not ag big as it used to be. yes Manchester met and university of Manchester does bring in large number of multi ethnic people. but if you go to the deans-gate as an example area theres hardy any there.

your argueing with your self . lamo

You need to visit again or atleast buy a map the large Pakistani community you refer to live at a different area known as Longsight, further south it isn't Rusholm where wilmslow RD is situated. The business have been taken up by Arabs. Only very few Pakistani food outlets remain. Majority of the houses in and around the area of the curry mile are occupied by students. Best thing keep to your own area you clearly think the world revolves around your town.

 

[Hamza913]

Dont people have an inherent distaste for a cousin as a partner? Its genetically built in to our psyche.



yes.

Its up to you to break the cycle and introduce new genes, save the family line.

In many cultures cousins are not raised closely among each other. If you don't meet someone and spend time with them for the first two years of your life, it's possible to get attracted to them.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Islam doesn't encourage it but allows it. This is of course provided it doesn't occur regularly throughout the family.



Of course, hence why I say it's fine as a once off occurrence. But if it becomes a generational habit, then yeah issues will arise. Islam itself encourages marrying people from completely different backgrounds.



I'm sorry to hear that man, this is why the practice needs to stop as a generational habit.

There is no point trying to educate some people as they have merged their village tribal culture with Islam. Islam is very open and encourages marriages between Muslims across the globe. This cannot be accepted by Pakistanis who hold their village roots dear.

 

[EpiiC]

There is no point trying to educate some people as they have merged their village tribal culture with Islam. Islam is very open and encourages marriages between Muslims across the globe. This cannot be accepted by Pakistanis who hold their village roots dear.

What percentage of people in Pakistan have cousin marriage 40%?