Cops, harassers laugh after Muslim mother's 'headscarf’ was yanked off in London

[Spring Onion]

Who is on the fore front of WOT I mean War on Islam?

wars for world hegemony could be portrayed as religious phobia by different interest groups but frankly these are games of interests thats all.

 

[livingdead]

do you agree that Anjum Chudhary is a false flagger? I mean a bastard actually encouraged undercover by Mi6? he is hated by majority of Muslims (if not all) he is banned from many mosques people generally loathe him

still
for being an idiot and controversial he gets prime time coverage whenever he opens his garbage for a mouth to say something disgusting.
I havent come across a single Muslim who supports and justifies that piece of work Have you?

No I think anjem believes in what he says. Security agencies might get benefit by monitoring the crowd he attracts but I doubt it was propped up by them.
I think he is using his legal rights fully, he is not an immigrant hence cant be deported(unlike abu hamza). I am not sure what percentage of muslims completely endorse his views, I think muslims mostly hate him for making their life awkward. If your question is, do muslims support some of his views, sure they do, they want it to be expressed in better way than anjem's confrontational way.

 

[Srinivas]

wars for world hegemony could be portrayed as religious phobia by different interest groups but frankly these are games of interests thats all.

Wars of Hegemony will start and end in no time, but wars of ideology are the ones which are targeted at the societies.

 

[Jungibaaz]

headscarf is not a human right ( nor is building huge temples )... she should leave britain if she is offended.

Wrong.

It is precisely a right. Those who disagree should get the hell out of my country.

Go live in Isis land If you want to live like cavemen. Stop playing the victim in Europe. If you don't like Western values and culture. Leave.

Insulting and abusing people on their choice of clothing and actually assaulting people is not Western Culture. Being allowed to wear whatever the hell you want and be treated in a manner well within the law... THAT is part of Western culture.

You deluded right wingers are as big enemies of western liberalism as Islamic extremists are.

another article fueling hatred because of puny incident.

If I assault your mother or sister for their choice of clothing. See if they believe it's a puny incident.

 

[Psychic]

how did a three-day-old thread suddenly bring on me three angry questioners??




how??



she was making people uncomfortable... agreed that western society now accepts drinking like a fish and of other things, but think of what is associated with this "headscarfed" victim??

a month back, someone had posted a vid about some mullah types going around a british city with a mic and boom-box, and speaking of "sharia in britain" in a threatening manner.

think from the perspective of the native britishers about such displays, and look at the placard on the left and the irony of it...

'Muslim Patrol' jailed for harassing couple holding hands and men drinking in a bid to enforce Sharia law in East London | Daily Mail Online




wow... that is a first for me.



i understand, but think from the perspective of the attacking ladies... they don't see saddam or muammar... they see isis and qaeda and taliban.

britain has become a laboratory from where muslim reactionaries went in uncounted numbers to help nato destroy syria and libya.

we should be embarrassed about such "muslims".

Some one wears a bikini, burka, jeans or headscarf should be none of your concern. Just because Assad's wife does not wear scarf does not mean that every Muslim woman must follow her. You forgot that wearing scarf is not against British laws but beating and punching some one is. You are confusing protestors with an innocent Muslim woman in your above post . At least call a spade a spade. She was not causing trouble to anyone unlike some of our idiot Muslim brothers. And you start to fire in multiple directions instead of sticking to the topic. Do not bring Lybia, Syria and communism in every topic. Thank you.

 

[Jungibaaz]

The ideea is not that this isn't assault or a reprobable act,which it is but the fact that these are just minor incidents with which we are bombarded every day under the islamophobia slogan.Someone probably got harassed because she wore high heels,some kid got bullied because he's fat,etc,etc.We don't need "news articles" for every tiny incovenience brought by some idiots in every day life.Wake us up when an angry British mob burns a mosque down with people inside...now that would be really bad.

Delusion. It is rife in this thread. I already am aware of your views, please tell me the last time someone was punched and kicked for being fat or wearing high heels? Yet, violent crime based on religion, race and other traits is both as condemnable and rightly more reported.

I've seen local newspapers in other parts of the UK report similar attacks on people, beaten and roughed up for no apparent reason, cases in which even impartial police suspect a hate crime.

Also, these specific hate crimes ARE on the rise. Trust me, I know more about my city than you! Met statistics:

 

[Mrc]

Go live in Isis land If you want to live like cavemen. Stop playing the victim in Europe. If you don't like Western values and culture. Leave.

If she is living in uk legally and as wearing what ever u want on your head is lagal in uk; her rights have been violated..

People who are advising her to move to isis land; shud consider doing that them selves as there ignorance; arrogance and intolerance will fit right in there

 

[Jungibaaz]

I

I am pretty confident UK has the best police force in the world asides from Norway/Sweden/Japan/Ireland.

They are the best in the world IMO.

Wearing a scarf is not against the British laws. Beating and punching some one is. I suggest you to use your brain if you have got one. Thank you.

Too much to ask. Ignorance is absolutely rife among some when it comes to Islam. So widespread and venomous is the anti-Islam ignorance, that proponents of it even compromise on the principles they claim to uphold.

Religious freedom and freedom to wear a head scarf? No thank you, we're right wing, ironically, these very same people will claim to uphold freedom and civil liberties.

 

[flamer84]

Delusion. It is rife in this thread. I already am aware of your views, please tell me the last time someone was punched and kicked for being fat or wearing high heels? Yet, violent crime based on religion, race and other traits is both as condemnable and rightly more reported.

I've seen local newspapers in other parts of the UK report similar attacks on people, beaten and roughed up for no apparent reason, cases in which even impartial police suspect a hate crime.

Also, these specific hate crimes ARE on the rise. Trust me, I know more about my city than you! Met statistics:

It happens every day,people get assaulted/harassed for nothing.It's just that we don't get bombarded with articles like in the case of someone getting a hot chocolate which "was to hot because she wore a headscarf".You're going to tell me that ordinary women don't get harassed in the street by idiots ?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

On both sides!

A lot of this behavior is encouraged by poverty and economic deprivation, particularly in the UK.

Rubbish. Utter rubbish. The average Pakistani in UK is far better off than 90% of Pakistani citizens in their own country.

This 'behaviour' sadly is a infection that is carried from bacteria that breeds in their country of orgin - Pakistan that they frequently visit and hold close to their hearts.

 

[Psychic]

how did a three-day-old thread suddenly bring on me three angry questioners??




how??



she was making people uncomfortable... agreed that western society now accepts drinking like a fish and of other things, but think of what is associated with this "headscarfed" victim??

a month back, someone had posted a vid about some mullah types going around a british city with a mic and boom-box, and speaking of "sharia in britain" in a threatening manner.

think from the perspective of the native britishers about such displays, and look at the placard on the left and the irony of it...

'Muslim Patrol' jailed for harassing couple holding hands and men drinking in a bid to enforce Sharia law in East London | Daily Mail Online




wow... that is a first for me.



i understand, but think from the perspective of the attacking ladies... they don't see saddam or muammar... they see isis and qaeda and taliban.

britain has become a laboratory from where muslim reactionaries went in uncounted numbers to help nato destroy syria and libya.

we should be embarrassed about such "muslims".

Scarf is not that alien even to the West. You posted a burka pic. That is something alien yes but if you think that a simple scarf is going to make some one uncomfortable then you are mistaken. Their nuns wear scarf. Even the village women in the west and Russia wore scarfs as late as 50's and 60's. Going by your logic, British Nuns should also leave Britain.

 

[VCheng]

Rubbish. Utter rubbish. The average Pakistani in UK is far better off than 90% of Pakistani citizens in their own country.

This 'behaviour' sadly is a infection that is carried from bacteria that breeds in their country of orgin - Pakistan that they frequently visit and hold close to their hearts.

My comment is correct since it applies to inner city conditions in the UK for whites, browns and blacks alike. All of these groups are more inclined to go at each other when the economy tanks, and less so when it is better.

 

[Jungibaaz]

It happens every day,people get assaulted/harassed for nothing.It's just that we don't get bombarded with articles like in the case of someone getting a hot chocolate which "was to hot because she wore a headscarf".You're going to tell me that ordinary women don't get harassed in the street by idiots ?

Yes they do. Of course they do. But the trend of assault and hate based on one's faith is rising and is as venomous as assault based on skin colour.

Do you dispute that map I posted for example? A spike in reported hate crime incidents and islamophobia? I called this well before it actually happened, I am far better aware of the situation in the UK. I also correctly called, UKIP's rise to power, and against what pollsters were saying, I'd said and others had said that they'd break the left wing vote and not the right. Completely non-intuitive to some, but it happened.

In any case, in these incidents, I prefer to use my own eyes, the met office stats and my understanding of the UK, over folks on the internet attempting to delegitimatize any of this.

 

[livingdead]

Delusion. It is rife in this thread. I already am aware of your views, please tell me the last time someone was punched and kicked for being fat or wearing high heels? Yet, violent crime based on religion, race and other traits is both as condemnable and rightly more reported.

I've seen local newspapers in other parts of the UK report similar attacks on people, beaten and roughed up for no apparent reason, cases in which even impartial police suspect a hate crime.

Also, these specific hate crimes ARE on the rise. Trust me, I know more about my city than you! Met statistics:

Met should take it more seriously.
Did you watch the recent documentary about them? Watched the first episode, mostly deals with uneasy relation met has with black people.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

My comment is correct since it applies to inner city conditions in the UK for whites, browns and blacks alike. All of these groups are more inclined to go at each other when the economy tanks, and less so when it is better.

Of course because while they enjoy welfare benefits that even middle class in Pakistan don't some decide to use their spare time in less than healthy ways like criminality. The amount a single unemployed and lazy young 20 year old recieves in UK is probably in the region of £600 per month. This does not even include the provision of absolute free world class health service that provides everything single thing you can dream of and even not dream of.

I know a old women who came from Pakistan as a vistor who was suffering from wasting disease. She was extremely fragile as she was almost 60 in addition to her medival condition. She got to stay in UK on the dubious grounds of 'humanity' in that she had no living relatives in Pakistan left which in fact was a fabrication.

This meant she got to stay from Home Office in UK. She moved into next door to her only living 'relative' her son in a rented house. This was again fabrication. That house was her son's but was on another relatives name. She lived with her son. The house got rent paid by Benefit's Agency to her son the 'owner' who in fact was her son. In addition she got disability benefits amounting to about £800pm plus rent of about £500pm with the son collecting aggregate of £1,300 per month.

In addition the NHS ( National Health Service ) proved a nurse who came every second day to check on her and a hired care worker to come every day to bath and do domestic chores for her. It did not stop there. The son's house had been bought cheap ( about £150,000 ) because of the condition. The family then applied to the NHS/ Benefits Agency/DWP for money to refurbish the house to make it 'disable friendly' and a grant was given of £20,000 half of which the son pocketed the other half he handed to 'lala' to refurnish the house.

These people on statistics will be recorded as 'needy and bloody poor'. Of course the grandchildren will probably grow up pretending they are Arabs and worship Saudia and possibly blow themselves up in Syria because the local Madaris employ a rabid preacher from Pakistan who espouses Salafism and who probably arrived in UK from poverty in Pakistan on the back of ayslum seeker.

This is the reality. I see it every day. I know more than most because I make a living by presenting the cases for these people.

As regards Police of course I have ran into some racists and some even who did not deserve to wear the uniform. Of course in UK we moan and bitch about them which is our right but the reality is after you look around the world - We are bloody lucky in UK to have the police we do. That does not mean weget complacent and must keep demanding improvemement.

@hinduguy Yes, without a doubt in UK the Met is by far the worse. Having been to London I have noticed they are leaning more toward US police.