Consider total ban on beef across nation in 3 months, HP HC tells Centre

[Hindustani78]

What a kind of idiotic judgement that is. Unique ID for cows? And our govt is struggling to achieve 100% unique ID to its citizens of India.
For how long a state can feed the cows when my brethens are living without food? There is a limit to which craziness can be emphasized, and least expected from a respected High Court.

Animal Husbandry department

Each cow will have a 12-digit unique identification number and an ID card will be fixed as tags around its neck. The owners will be provided with a booklet, in which they can fill cows’ “data” every day.

“The aim of this scheme is to establish identity of cows, their security and provide them benefits of health schemes. In these special identification tags, their photographs, race, complexion, body structure and age will be recorded in the database.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Animal Husbandry department

Each cow will have a 12-digit unique identification number and an ID card will be fixed as tags around its neck. The owners will be provided with a booklet, in which they can fill cows’ “data” every day.

“The aim of this scheme is to establish identity of cows, their security and provide them benefits of health schemes. In these special identification tags, their photographs, race, complexion, body structure and age will be recorded in the database.

Quite unnecessary. And who will pay for the Unique ID, tags, and its corresponding identification instruments, software to design, and cows to maintain if owners do not want the cow anymore?
I want my taxes to be used on fellow humans first. And later we can concentrate on cows. And more importantly the biometric scheme of humans the AADHAR is yet to be completed. Forget the cows.

 

[Soulspeek]

You are not getting the gist of matter mate. The fact I wanted to highlight here is widespread killing of male calves of cows through indirect matter. Its very prevalent custom in rural India. They just starve the young ones to kill them.

When it comes to economical rearing of cows, all rules and empathy towards cows go out of window!

You are already giving the answer.

Cattle smuggling is loss of state revenues and here only state is trying to put a mechanism by which the collected revenues can be put in development projects which can reduce poverty.



Your neighbour can go to the nearest Government Vet. Hospital .

If you give your location , i will post the address of the Nearest Gov. Vet. Hospital.

 

[raktaka]

My neighbour owns a cow. Recently it gave birth to a male calf. Off late I was noticibg that the calf was getting weaker and weaker.

I asked him why is it so? He said that he does not want it. Nobody wants to purchase it also. His only option is to starve it and let it die.

Horrendous... I must say!

So you have a Horrible Neighbour. So what ?

Every person is guided by his own personal Moral conduct. Just because your neighbours moral conduct is weak doe not mean the rest of us have to lower our moral standards to satisfy you.

Others have neighbours who would chop up the calf and eat it up without any qualms. How Horrendous is that ? Won't a christian neighbour do that ?

You are not getting the gist of matter mate. The fact I wanted to highlight here is widespread killing of male calves of cows through indirect matter. Its very prevalent custom in rural India. They just starve the young ones to kill them.

When it comes to economical rearing of cows, all rules and empathy towards cows go out of window!

So what ? There is also widespread Rape, theft, prostitution etc.

Does that mean we pass laws making all of them Legal ?

What kind of twisted logic is that ?

Individual lack of morality is not the same as the collective morality of a society or civilization. The Nation needs to have a moral stand irrespective of whether its citizen will show the courage to follow that path.

Quite unnecessary. And who will pay for the Unique ID, tags, and its corresponding identification instruments, software to design, and cows to maintain if owners do not want the cow anymore?
I want my taxes to be used on fellow humans first. And later we can concentrate on cows. And more importantly the biometric scheme of humans the AADHAR is yet to be completed. Forget the cows.

That is what YOU want ...... others have a much higher standards. You can't expect others to lower their standards to come down to your level.

They want taxes to be used for ALL creatures who are useful to society including humans.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

That is what YOU want ...... others have a much higher standards. You can't expect others to lower their standards to come down to your level.

They want taxes to be used for ALL creatures who are useful to society including humans.

What kind of standards are u speaking when a animals life is greater than a humans, considering particularly when many people are living under poverty. So what will u do? Stop killing animals as a whole for ur standard. I am sorry. I am a non vegetarian. I do not eat beef. And if a state govt bans beef, I do not have any problems with it.
But I have problems with state money to be used on animals like tags, ID and maintainance shed when poverty isnt eliminated.

 

[raktaka]

What kind of standards are u speaking when a animals life is greater than a humans, considering particularly when many people are living under poverty. So what will u do? Stop killing animals as a whole for ur standard. I am sorry. I am a non vegetarian. I do not eat beef. And if a state govt bans beef, I do not have any problems with it.
But I have problems with state money to be used on animals like tags, ID and maintainance shed when poverty isnt eliminated.

The kind of standards that puts Morality and Ethics before Self interest and greed.

Your personal perversities are your problem, not mine. I see no reason to discuss it.

You have already mentioned your problem with charity and your fondness for greed. You claim to love humans over animals, but I find that claim hard to believe. It is unlikely you love humans any more than you love animals. But that is just my take on things.

 

[Hindustani78]

You are not getting the gist of matter mate. The fact I wanted to highlight here is widespread killing of male calves of cows through indirect matter. Its very prevalent custom in rural India. They just starve the young ones to kill them.

When it comes to economical rearing of cows, all rules and empathy towards cows go out of window!

I dont know from where you got all this wrong info.

Male calves are feeded well enough as they are needed for the breeding in future and when the cows are registered in the Animal husbandry then they even get subsidies for the Chara.

If any person is having more male calves then they sell those male calves to other villagers.

Himachal lynching: Six suspects arrested - The Hindu
Updated: October 18, 2015 04:39 IST

The Himachal Pradesh police on Saturday detained half a dozen persons in connection with the alleged lynching of a youth over suspicion of smuggling cattle at Lawasa village of Sirmaur district, using clues from photographs posted on the social networking sites and a vernacular daily.

Director-General of Police Sanjay Kumar said the police teams have gathered clues from the pictures on the websites and had so far rounded up six persons and they were being questioned about the incident. Reportedly, those who have been rounded up have already criminal cases registered against them. It could not be established at this juncture whether the activists involved were from the right wing organisations. “It seems that the matter is being blown out of proportion by a section of the media,” said the State police chief.

The police have also sent one team to the native village of the victim, Noman, to verify his antecedents.

Will they bring my son back if his innocence is established?’
Three days after her eldest brother, Noman was lynched, allegedly by Bajrang Dal activists in Sirmaur in Himachal Pradesh, Khushnuma is yet to come to terms with her loss.

The question she is asking every visitor is how could someone be killed for buying bullocks.

“I had fought with him when he was here. I didn’t know that he was not going come back,” Ms. Khushnuma cries inconsolably.

Before leaving on Sunday, Noman had told his parents that he would be back on Thursday.

Saeed Akhtar, Noman’s father, told The Hindu that when he got a call informing him about his son’s death, he thought it was a prank. The reason for disbelief, he said, “We never had an occasion to be embarrassed in public on account of him. He was not a criminal but a boy who turned 20 a few months ago.”

“I am heartbroken. I lost my young son because some goons who wanted to protect cows killed him,” said Akhtar. “Being the eldest son, he was the hope of my old age. He was growing to become a handsome young man, but I can’t forget the number of injuries his body had when I received it,” he said while highlighting that Noman’s mother suffered a breakdown when she saw the injuries.

“Will they bring my son back if it is proved to them that there was no cow slaughter?” asked Akhtar.

 

[Bombermanx1]

Lost 5 war lolz ... Still exist . coffin scandal .. Lolx itnay kuttay mar deye k bharat mey coffin kam parr gye .

World knows who ran to USA for ceasefire it was written by your own General Musharaff in his book.
You refused to take even the bodies of your Light infantry in Kargil Such respect for your armymen.

What I eat is absolutely my business... dont give a sh*t about your sentimental BS :=)


Hahaha try harder... Let me enjoy my beef now

You are from kerala,expected this from you.When a nationwide ban happens you will have to obey or be put in jail.Times are changing.You can't play that Nehru or Secularism card anymore, nor will Hindus accept such insults to their faiths and sentiments anymore.If they want violence,we are ready to be violent. just saying on how far Minorities want to drag this issue just to spite Hindus.You know eventually,Beef Eating Minority will get the stick and then they will cry victim.Why do that in the first place? Avoid Beef or be prepared for a fight.

 

[Hindustani78]

Quite unnecessary. And who will pay for the Unique ID, tags, and its corresponding identification instruments, software to design, and cows to maintain if owners do not want the cow anymore?
I want my taxes to be used on fellow humans first. And later we can concentrate on cows. And more importantly the biometric scheme of humans the AADHAR is yet to be completed. Forget the cows.

Its free of cost i think.

12-digit unique ID numbers on the lines of ‘Aadhaar’ to counter illegal trade, track their breed, location, breeding cycle and milk production, said animal husbandry department officials on Friday.

The ID card will be fixed as a tag around its ears and the owners will get a booklet where they would fill cow data every day.

Owners will get a booklet where they would fill cows’ ‘data’ every day.

“Owners will also have to fill a questionnaire, which will comprise details of owners like address, phone numbers. The details will be fed on National Dairy Development Board’s database with special identification tags of cattle such as their photographs, age, race, complexion and body structure,”

"The purpose is to carry out a census and keep a record. Besides, this will help to verify mattes if someone feeds us wrong information about pet animals or animals working in the field.

“Not only Muslims, but all Hindus are also being asked to submit the details of the cows and bullocks they possess. But there are many Muslims who domesticate animals without any intention of consuming it.

These records will prove that Muslims don’t buy cows and bullocks just for slaughtering and it will help to defuse communal tension between Hindus and Muslims

 

[Koovie]

World knows who ran to USA for ceasefire it was written by your own General Musharaff in his book.
You refused to take even the bodies of your Light infantry in Kargil Such respect for your armymen.


You are from kerala,expected this from you.When a nationwide ban happens you will have to obey or be put in jail.Times are changing.You can't play that Nehru or Secularism card anymore, nor will Hindus accept such insults to their faiths and sentiments anymore.If they want violence,we are ready to be violent. just saying on how far Minorities want to drag this issue just to spite Hindus.You know eventually,Beef Eating Minority will get the stick and then they will cry victim.Why do that in the first place? Avoid Beef or be prepared for a fight.

Yeah, have fun trying to implement that in Kerala.

 

[Hindustani78]

Yeah, have fun trying to implement that in Kerala.

It will be implemented in all the states.

 

[Bombermanx1]

You are not. Except Kshatriya others do not have authority to punish any person. So it is not your duty to stop cow slaughter. But that is a different discussion.


That was not the premise of partition. That was what Hindu radical organizations wanted to be the premise. But it was not. I don't know why people eat beef. But they do and most do not do it on purpose to spite Hindus. You ask proof? Otherwise so many Hindus wouldn't be eating beef.

You are welcome to bring consequences through law. But if you are threatening violence, find another to bark at. This is 2015 India.


If you have majority support, try to gather the rest of support required and make it a law. It is quite clear what you mean by when something Happens. Now how are you helping Hinduims is beyond me.

I am not the one who suffers when there is no uniform civil code. It is muslims who will get hurt because of a lack of uniform civil code. When some mullah's daughter gets triple talaq divorce without alimony he will realise it.

I am questioning your motive behind raising the Civil code topic in a beef debate and then raising hands in the air saying you ask them. When you don't care about UCC then why bring it up?


You should first wake up, stop making noise and trying pushing legislation. You are the one crying without doing what is necessary for your own goals. All bombast and no action. You think violence is helping your cause. Well, we will see.

1)You bring in Caste wont work.Hindutva is a unified HIndu entity.

2)Partition was based on Religion, those Muslims who agreed to live with Hindus and those who couldn't it was clear.The british Parliament passed Indian Independence act saying "HINDU INDIA AND MUSLIM PAKISTAN".
The rule will be brought whether you like it or not,
Violence,well thats a different matter,This is 2015 indeed and you see those who don't respect Sentiments of Hindus will get what is deserving and i am not the one who is crying in Media "Killed for Beef" am i?
Just don't expect us to sit quiet when you purposefully kill and eat cows to spite our religion.
Muslims are not bound by their religion to eat beef,while Hindus are required to protect cows and stop their slaughter.
We are not stopping Muslims from eating other meats, just Forget BEEF that's all.
How far they want to escalate it is upto them.But we won't back down in this case as you said this is 2015, not 1947 Gandhi,Nehru era where you can fool Hindus into Non-violence with your peace sermons.

3)What a Mullah does is his wish,as for UCC they will come around.When we already have Majority support and directive principles of Constitution call for banning cow slaughter, why should we go around trying to appease a tiny Minority who believes they will deliberately kill cow to insult Hindus?Why should we try to win them? We are not Gandhi nor are we Nehru,who wanted to win the minority by downplaying the interests of the majority,why in the world will we do that?.

Yeah, have fun trying to implement that in Kerala.

Unless, you want live in another country,then you have no choice but to obey the rule passed by the country.Even Kerala.

 

[Hindustani78]

1)You bring in Caste wont work.Hindutva is a unified HIndu entity.

2)Partition was based on Religion, those Muslims who agreed to live with Hindus and those who couldn't it was clear.The british Parliament passed Indian Independence act saying "HINDU INDIA AND MUSLIM PAKISTAN".
The rule will be brought whether you like it or not,
Violence,well thats a different matter,This is 2015 indeed and you see those who don't respect Sentiments of Hindus will get what is deserving and i am not the one who is crying in Media "Killed for Beef" am i?
Just don't expect us to sit quiet when you purposefully kill and eat cows to spite our religion.
Muslims are not bound by their religion to eat beef,while Hindus are required to protect cows and stop their slaughter.
We are not stopping Muslims from eating other meats, just Forget BEEF that's all.
How far they want to escalate it is upto them.But we won't back down in this case as you said this is 2015, not 1947 Gandhi,Nehru era where you can fool Hindus into Non-violence with your peace sermons.

3)What a Mullah does is his wish,as for UCC they will come around.When we already have Majority support and directive principles of Constitution call for banning cow slaughter, why should we go around trying to appease a tiny Minority who believes they will deliberately kill cow to insult Hindus?Why should we try to win them? We are not Gandhi nor are we Nehru,who wanted to win the minority by downplaying the interests of the majority,why in the world will we do that?.


Unless, you want live in another country,then you have no choice but to obey the rule passed by the country.Even Kerala.

Cow slaughter ban is more linked to the development of the nation. and once Cows and buffalos get the Unique ID , our dairy sector will increase more and on that the more gobar gas plants will be constructed.

Sab ka Saath and Sab ka Vikas , this is the real meaning.

Those who are trying to give it religious colour are infact doing damage to the development of the nation.

If Indians irrespective of thier religion , avoid consuming beef just for one year , this can lead to the uplifting of millions of Indians in each state. We should let Government to implement these projects and contribute more and more.

 

[Soulspeek]

Twisted Bhakt Logic!!

I never ate beef in real life but after seeing the communal Sanghi nutcracks I decided to go and eat beef.

It was odd but I feel liberated now. I know many saffron chaddis here on PDF will be twisted but I have decided to be anti-chaddi henceforth.

These fools have undone all the goodwill of Indians worldwide.

 

[raktaka]

Twisted Bhakt Logic!!

I never ate beef in real life but after seeing the communal Sanghi nutcracks I decided to go and eat beef.

It was odd but I feel liberated now. I know many saffron chaddis here on PDF will be twisted but I have decided to be anti-chaddi henceforth.

These fools have undone all the goodwill of Indians worldwide.

If all it took was a few" sanghi nutcrakes" in a pakistani forum to change your beliefs and practices, then maybe it was not all that strong to begin with

I think you are giving undue credit to them, maybe there was some darkness in you that was desperate to come out and be liberated.