Cold War

[nightcrawler]

The Soviet promoted modrenization, security, science and education so naturally progressive minded people allied with soviet while the backward mullahs founds their alliance with USA. The con side of soviets was staunch anti-religion stance, expanstionist policies, poor economics and ineffciency. The USA has to play support for whoever raise slogans in theor favour, be it really backward jehadi mullahs.

Hmmm like USA teaching Afghans how to fly a helicopter & how to use a mobile phone!!!

 

[nightcrawler]

I have a question
During Libyan occupation by Israeil there was a West German firm which settled a ballistic missile base in Libya captured(images) by SR-71 & then canceled via USA pressure
Can anyone provide greater details

 

[nightcrawler]

Can't link to other forums (FORUM RULES)

But this is what a Russian said (he is a guru out there )

I constantly read from western sources that the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was an attempt to get a warm water port.

Total b0llocks.

Any incursion into Pakistan was an attempt to get rebel forces that sneak across the border and to crush supply lines... much as the US does now with its UCAVs.

The Soviets invaded Afghanistan because the CIA started trying to "turn" the country and the Soviets feared a CIA puppet in power in Afghanistan like there was in Iran.
The Afghans were previously friendly to the Soviets so there was really no need to "invade" without western interference.

The very concept that they could create a Soviet friendly corridor through Afghanistan and Pakistan to any warm water port is ridiculous... just look at a map for goodness sake! Do they think we are idiots?

The transfer of enough material and fuel and resources through Afghanistan and Pakistan to maintain a port... it would be easier and cheaper to simply build a port in India and then lease it at a fraction of the cost of invading two countries.
They had enough forces to control some of the cities in Afghanistan but no where near enough at any time to also invade Pakistan. What was supposed to happen? The Pakistanis give up after they see what happened to the Afghans?
The Soviets aren't stupid. They made mistakes but they weren't stupid. They always had a reason for doing the things they did.

BTW the British have been fearing Russian invasion of "their" India for centuries believing they wanted warm water ports. (And they certainly do, but they are hardly going to invade lots of hostile countries to do it.)

I mean lets face it if they desperately needed warm water ports when they joined the pacific war in 1945 in about two weeks fighting the got to the 38th parallel in Korea and took most of China and Manchuria. They could have simply said welcome to the Russian empire and kept China the way Japan had kept China since the early 1930s, though with more humane treatment of course.

 

[Moscow]

i suggest all members watch a movie the 9th company or 9 rota on youtube with english subtitles its about the last year of afgan -soviet invasion a good alternate watch from hollywood and a great movie

 

[nightcrawler]

i suggest all members watch a movie the 9th company or 9 rota on youtube with english subtitles its about the last year of afgan -soviet invasion a good alternate watch from hollywood and a great movie

I have seen it