CM Yogi: India Is on Its Way to Becoming Another Country of Religious Conflict?

[adil_minhas]

No it is not a law of nature. It is not happening anywhere. Muslims are not oppressed people but a hawkish minority who demands everything without showing commitment to nation. They say that they are Muslims first and Indian next. I think nation must treat them like that . Always next.

That might be your opinion.

Personally I feel Hindutva nutjobs care for their religion and cow and Mandir more than the country.

Kudos.

 

[DineshS]

Personally I feel Hindutva nutjobs care for their religion and cow and Mandir more than the country.

LOL...a Islamic fanatic saying this is a funny thing.
May be you should go out sometime and ask for other countries their opinion.

 

[MULUBJA]

That might be your opinion.

Personally I feel Hindutva nutjobs care for their religion and cow and Mandir more than the country.

Kudos.

First of all you declare that you are Indian first than we shall talk.

 

[sbh02]

Indian Muslims still the most backward community ten years after the Sachar Committee Report from 2006.

Ten years after Sachar Report

On November 30, 2006, the 403-page report of the Sachar Committee, on the social, economic and educational condition of Muslims in India, was tabled in Parliament. The Committee, headed by former Chief Justice of Delhi High Court Rajinder Sachar, was set up soon after the UPA 1 government took over, and it submitted its findings in less than 2 years.

The Report highlighted a range of disabilities faced by the community, and made a slew of recommendations to address the situation. It placed Indian Muslims below Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in backwardness. Among the many issues it highlighted were the huge mismatch between the percentage of Muslims in the population and in decisionmaking positions such as the IAS and IPS, and the general poor representation of the community in the police.

An analysis of government data show that most indicators have not seen significant improvement in the years since the Report was submitted. In some cases things seem to have, in fact, deteriorated — in 2005, for example, the share of Muslims among India’s police forces was 7.63%; in 2013, it fell to 6.27%. The government subsequently stopped releasing data on police personnel broken down by religion.

In the years both preceding and following Sachar, Muslims continued to have the lowest average monthly per capita expenditure (MPCE) among all communities. The work participation rate for Muslim men increased only slightly to 49.5% in 2011 from 47.5% in 2001; for Muslim women, the increase was even smaller, from 14.1% in 2001 to 14.8% in 2011.

Perhaps the most telling figures are in the IAS and IPS, the country’s top officialdom. The Sachar Committee recorded the percentage of Muslims in the IAS and IPS as 3% and 4% respectively. These numbers were 3.32% and 3.19% respectively on January 1, 2016, Home Ministry data show. The fall in Muslim representation in the IPS was due primarily to a steep fall in the share of Muslim promotee officers in the IPS — from 7.1% in the Sachar Report to merely 3.82% at the beginning of 2016.

As per the Census of 2001, Muslims were 13.43% of India’s population; in 2011, they were 14.2%. The increase of 24.69% in the population of Muslims between the two Censuses was the smallest ever recorded for the community.

The sex ratio among Muslims remained better than that of India overall in both 2001 and 2011, and the percentage of Muslims living in urban centres too remained higher than the national average in both Censuses.

http://indianexpress.com/article/ex...e-in-the-condition-of-indias-muslims-4444809/

 

[I.R.A]

First of all you declare that you are Indian first than we shall talk.

Is india more important to you or cow?

 

[DineshS]

Is india more important to you or cow?

You keep asking questions but never answer one?

Is Pakistan more important to you than your Holybook or Prophet?
If humanity more important to you than your HolyBook or prophet?
Is human life more important to you than your Holybook or prophet?

Lastly, ask your country to remove Blasphemy laws...It makes mockery of you questioning other about their faith and country.,,

 

[MULUBJA]

Is india more important to you or cow?

India is more important to me than my life forget about cow. By the way what is your first loyalty pakistan or Islam.

 

[adil_minhas]

Is india more important to you or cow?

Redundant question considering the audience.

Cow and Mandir first obviously.

Isn't there another thread somewhere on the forum that says the same?

Socho

Samjho

Naacho

 

[ThinkLogically]

@waz what is this buddy?

Looks like your Genetics can't handle us.

 

[DineshS]

Cow and Mandir first obviously.

Says the guy who talks about his superior genes

 

[I.R.A]

You keep asking questions but never answer one?

Is Pakistan more important to you than your Holybook or Prophet?

Messenger (Peace be upon him) not prophet .................... Pakistan is a creation based on Quranic ideas .... if don't trust me read about Hindu leaders of that time what they have to say about this.

If humanity more important to you than your HolyBook or prophet?

Quran was sent to Messenger (Peace be upon him) to establish the social order in Humans and free humans of slavery and exploitation at the hands of others ............. now you tell me if Quran places so much importance to Humans and their lives then why should I not believe it?

Is human life more important to you than your Holybook or prophet?

"
whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. " 5:32

This is from Quran itself.

Lastly, ask your country to remove Blasphemy laws...It makes mockery of you questioning other about their faith and country.,,

I agree to amend those laws. And those laws should not be for protecting Muslims beliefs but for everyone including Hindus.

 

[Upagrah]

Is india more important to you or cow?

Since when did it become a either or question ?

India was/is/will be synonymous with cow protection.

 

[I.R.A]

Since when did it become a either or question ?

India was/is/will be synonymous with cow protection.

That's the spirit. Very few have courage to speak the truth.

 

[ThinkLogically]

@Nilgiri @Robinhood Pandey

I've made my mistakes here. Being young and hot-headed. A nationalist. And a proud Indian Muslim.

My run ins with Pakistanis digging at my "infidelity" to the cause brought about my bans.

I came back determined to behave. I got some warnings from @The Eagle
They added up. I got another auto ban.

I am trying to contribute here. I have valid points as an Indian Muslim about the current political and social environment in our country. About the unreasonable ban on beef.

Obviously it has not gone down well with most Hindu Indians.

But is this the way to slander and gang up on someone?

What impression are you giving the world about how native Muslims are looked at and treated in our country?

Ironically that too on a Pakistani forum?

Kudos.

Let me be honest here.

I empathise with your co-religious people as we have been doing for centuries. We had separation in 1947 but many of your co-religious people decided to stay put, we accommodated them and treated them as our best buddies. What did we get in return? Just venom and more venom.

For Hindus India is like what Saudi is for you. We can't just vanish from our land just to prove we are secular and other nonsensical stuff.

Imagine what would Saudis do if the minority Christians openly talk about taking over using demography. It does not matter whether it is practically possible to eliminate the majority or not but just the constant needling of majority with intention to insult and infuriate them creates suspicion.

We Hindus are just doing what Saudis will do to protect their land but in a more non-violent manner.

There is no way we 1.2 Billion Hindus let go of our land, we need a place where we can follow our faith without any apprehension. There is no land to call us us own as of now, soon India will officially be the Home Of Hindus. We do not intend to harm any of the other religions in this land just that this land should be the Home Of Hindus forever just like Saudi is for Muslims.

There shall be no compromise on this come whatever.

 

[DineshS]

Messenger (Peace be upon him) not prophet .................... Pakistan is a creation based on Quranic ideas .... if don't trust me read about Hindu leaders of that time what they have to say about this.

So, the muslims who stayed back in India did not believe in Quranic ideas? Why did they stay back when they had a Islamic utopia next door?
Since they stayed back, they must agree to the so called democratic principles, which is basically the rule of majority of winning "ELECTIONS"...If a Yogi wins and becomes CM, why this idiotic ramblings?
If they don't like, they can migrate to Pakistan...Like many Hindus have migrated from Pakistan to India in last year..

Quran was sent to Messenger (Peace be upon him) to establish the social order in Humans and free humans of slavery and exploitation at the hands of others ............. now you tell me if Quran places so much importance to Humans and their lives then why should I not believe it?

Really? Didn't Holy Prophet also say, it is banned to build Mosques on other religious structures? You use it so selectively

whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. " 5:32

Wonder what the Mughal Invasion of Hindu India was all about...It does not matter. None of the current generation is party to that genocide.
BUT at least acknowledge that it happened and give us what is rightfully ours, in our country at least. Or Justice is not a word found in your religion?

I agree to amend those laws. And those laws should not be for protecting Muslims beliefs but for everyone including Hindus.

It's very easy to crap on us, when we have nothing as draconian as the laws you have. Do you know a Kamlesh Tiwari insulted the Holy Prophet and is in Jail? Do you also know that not a single Hindu organization supports him? Now imagine how Hindus must feel when Lakhs of muslims attend funeral of Yakub memon..
Not until you are in our shoes can you understand the duplicity and insults we repeatedly suffer, all the while the other side keep demanding more and more respect for their beliefs.