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CM Punjab posing for picture while supervising water drainage !

They should resign...Simple as that! Why are they dying to be responsible for the deaths of soo many?!

You cant do it...leave your chair of 7yrs and let someone else who knows the issue better than you handle it!

Bring in a list of National Assembly members and Senate members from last tenure and bring the same list from the current tenure and find the difference.

No one can do it better than them they are God gifted and the most intelligent and capable among the 180+ million for the job they are doing. No Pakistani can have even 1% of their intelligence and capabilities in running the nation.

They are making sure the nation does not go into wrong hands after they are laid to rot in the grave by securing - actually already secured - their immediate relatives and close friends for the job.
 
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They are making sure the nation does not go into wrong hands after they are laid to rot in the grave by securing - actually already secured - their immediate relatives and close friends for the job.
Hence the anger nad junoon in the march...anger of years of taking for a fool and junoon for wanting and hoping to get change! I dont agree 100% with IK then again everyone is human ....everyone makes mistakes esp if its your 1st time....

But the very fact that he wants to bring a revolution is amazing!
 
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From wikipedia: The Netherlands' name literally means "Low Country", inspired by its low and flat geography, with only about 50% of its land exceeding one metre above sea level. Most of the areas below sea level are man-made. Since the late 16th century, large areas (polders) have been reclaimed from the sea and from lakes, amounting to nearly 17% of the country's current land mass.

With a population density of 406 people per km² – 497 if water is excluded – the Netherlands is a very densely populated country for its size. Only Bangladesh, South Korea and Taiwan have both a larger population and a higher population density. Nevertheless, the Netherlands is the world's second largest exporter of food and agriculture products, after the United States.
Netherlands
Area Total 41,543 km2 (134th) / 16,039 sq mi

Water (%) 18.41

Pakistan
Area: Total 796,095 km2 (36th) / 307,374 sq mi

Water (%) 3.1
 
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Netherlands
Area Total 41,543 km2 (134th) / 16,039 sq mi

Water (%) 18.41

Pakistan
Area: Total 796,095 km2 (36th) / 307,374 sq mi

Water (%) 3.1

Lol you can continue posting but people will not listen to you. It takes will to do something "will" which neither our government has nor people. First lands flat, you can make reservoirs, lakes, dams and there are some dams which are suitable for flat lands, next we can make channels or ways to transport the water somewhere better to store and use it for irrigation which will help us by not asking people to move. Finally all you need is will do it but in Pakistan who cares ane do floods kou...

Also good job your posts are really informative, are you an engineer or something?
 
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Lol you can continue posting but people will not listen to you. It takes will to do something "will" which neither our government has nor people. First lands flat, you can make reservoirs, lakes, dams and there are some dams which are suitable for flat lands, next we can make channels or ways to transport the water somewhere better to store and use it for irrigation which will help us by not asking people to move. Finally all you need is will do it but in Pakistan who cares ane do floods kou...

Proper planning and proper management of these floods can be a big boon for Pakistan.


Also good job your posts are really informative, are you an engineer or something?

I am an uneducated Pakistani layman, not joking.
 
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while these politicians do their photo-opps - the military works behind curtains behind the scenes doing the REAL work that makes a difference and helps people

and they dont ask for the cameras to be snapping away - b/c theyre just doing their jobs...jobs that shouldve been done by these brilliant "democratically elected" people


and i have less contempt for Shabaz Sharif b/c he does have a better work ethic than these other assholes we are stuck with
 
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Let me just leave this here:

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Wait...... Are you trying to compare inland Punjab with an Island called Britain!? :rofl: that just shows how much knowledge you have of water systems :rofl: damn that was some field day for people who actually studied some ecology :p:
 
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That is not a sinkhole :rofl:


Lets say for the sake of argument it is...Didnt anyone do basic analysis BEFORE building the road? You do know different materials can be used to build on such rocks...Mayra shak sahi nikla:


Lets have introduction to Pakistani geography 101

This is map of soil in Pakistan:

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Punjab is mostly made of the following soil:

MOUNTAINS:Rock outcrop, some loamy very shallow
soilsVALLEYS : Mainly loamy soils

Laomy clayey mainly dense saline sodic soils

Rolling to hilly sandy soils

MOUNTAIND: Rocky out-crop with patchy soils
VALLEYS : Mainly loamy partly gravelly soils
Pakistan | Study Area

Most of Punjab is of Loam:
Loam soils generally contain more nutrients, moisture, and humus than sandy soils, have better drainage and infiltration of water and air than silty soils, and are easier to till than clay soils. The different types of loam soils each have slightly different characteristics, with some draining liquids more efficiently than others. For food production, a loam soil containing a small amount of organic material is considered ideal. The mineral in a loam soil ideally is about 40% sand, 40% silt and 20% clay by weight. The soil's texture, especially its ability to retain nutrients and water are crucial

What does this mean...these soils are prone to flooding hence a civil engineer would know how to make a road on such soils....However due to the clay component they are not that bad...but it just means you need good material to build the road or else expect a blackhole everynow and then :agree:


as for limestone joke:

Now lets see which areas have limestone:

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Mubarak ho there is only 2 areas of Punjab that have limestone until and unles that picture was from either of those 2...I suggest you hit Shabaz Shariff and his civil engineer with a brick!

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That is not a sinkhole :rofl:


Lets say for the sake of argument it is...Didnt anyone do basic analysis BEFORE building the road? You do know different materials can be used to build on such rocks...Mayra shak sahi nikla:


Lets have introduction to Pakistani geography 101

This is map of soil in Pakistan:

map13.JPG



Punjab is mostly made of the following soil:

MOUNTAINS:Rock outcrop, some loamy very shallow
soilsVALLEYS : Mainly loamy soils

Laomy clayey mainly dense saline sodic soils

Rolling to hilly sandy soils

MOUNTAIND: Rocky out-crop with patchy soils
VALLEYS : Mainly loamy partly gravelly soils
Pakistan | Study Area

Most of Punjab is of Loam:
Loam soils generally contain more nutrients, moisture, and humus than sandy soils, have better drainage and infiltration of water and air than silty soils, and are easier to till than clay soils. The different types of loam soils each have slightly different characteristics, with some draining liquids more efficiently than others. For food production, a loam soil containing a small amount of organic material is considered ideal. The mineral in a loam soil ideally is about 40% sand, 40% silt and 20% clay by weight. The soil's texture, especially its ability to retain nutrients and water are crucial

What does this mean...these soils are prone to flooding hence a civil engineer would know how to make a road on such soils....However due to the clay component they are not that bad...but it just means you need good material to build the road or else expect a blackhole everynow and then :agree:


as for limestone joke:

Now lets see which areas have limestone:

IMG_9202.JPG


Mubarak ho there is only 2 areas of Punjab that have limestone until and unles that picture was from either of those 2...I suggest you hit Shabaz Shariff and his civil engineer with a brick!

Map11.jpg


Normal people like you and many others on PDF are more knowledgeable than the officials and decision makers we have.

That is why I say PHD degree holders should be in the NA and Senate for a limited term, if educated people come they will make sure people under him are wisely and appropriately chosen. They will know they will have 5 years to prove they are capable and win elections again for a final tenure of 5 years.

But let me add one more thing, even if they come they will require some 2-4 years at least to just analyze and study the mess and the havoc these “educated” jahil politicians have created since decades and will leave for them.

Musharraf set the requirement of BA for a reason, if the policy makers after him really cared for the nation they would not have violated and overturned the decision but instead they should have enhanced the education system to deliver the best results and provide free education till BA, and later increase the requirement to PHD. But give me one good reason why should they?

They claim because of this a majority of people will not be able to get their constitutional right of standing in elections. I ask them what did the policy makers do to make sure that the education quality and literacy rate will jump by leaps and bounds in say 10-15 years?

Just to let you know we are in top countries having the largest number of non-school going children just behind an African country. 15 years from now what will be their future and in turn what will be the effect on the growth of the national economy and security? it is a ticking time bomb and when the consequences will show up it will be too late to do anything.

Will the current lot politicians at that time work and sweat to fix the issue in an another 5 year term and make the country 70% literate?

Read the below blast from the past.

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30 Jun 2010

Pakistan MPs in fake degree scandal
Up to 10 per cent of legislators could have positions challenged after inquiry.

Scores of Pakistani politicians could lose their seats in parliament after authorities opened an inquiry into claims 10 per cent of federal and provincial legislators had lied about their qualifications.

Up to 160 elected officials have been accused of faking their degrees in order to meet a requirement for holding office.

The supreme court has ordered the elections commission to vet the credentials of most of Pakistan's 1,100 federal and provincial politicians.

"The Higher Education Commission [HEC] is verifying the degrees of all parliamentarians in line with the orders of the supreme court," an official of the Election Commission told the Reuters news agency.

The controversy has its roots in a 2002 law, imposed by general Pervez Musharraf, a former president, that required candidates for office to hold a bachelor's degree or its equivalent.

Musharraf said he imposed the law to improve the calibre of MPs, but critics alleged the move was designed to sideline certain opponents.

Pakistan's supreme court struck down the degree requirement in April 2008, but not before Musharraf allowed elections to proceed in February of that year.

Angry reaction

Some politicans reacted angrily to the news that their credentials were to be investigated.

"A degree is a degree! Whether fake or genuine, it's a degree! It makes no difference!" Nawab Aslam Raisani, the chief minister from Baluchistan province who claims to have a master's degree in political science, shouted at reporters.

But the chairman of the National Assembly's education committee said that if elections are needed to sort out the reprecussions from the scandal in could, in fact, strengthen parliament.

"This is a process which will make us a great nation," Abid Sher Ali, who holds a master's degree in business and finance, said.

"Nations have to sacrifice some individuals in the process of becoming great, so we should not be scared of the situation we're facing now."

Many of the potentially fake degrees seem to have been claimed from Islamic seminaries, whose degrees are considered equivalent to a bachelor's in Pakistan.

Earlier this year, Jamshed Dasti, a member of the National Assembly, resigned after being unable to prove that he held a master's degrees in Islamic studies.

Media reports at the time said that he could not even name the first two chapters of the Quran.


Dasti then ran in a special election for the office he had just vacated, and won.
Asif Ali Zardari, the Pakistani president, has also faced questions about his qualifications.

He claims to hold a bachelor's degree from a business school in London but his party has been unable to produce a certificate or establish what he studied.


Zardari, however, will probably escape the scandal because he was elected after the degree requirement was struck down by the supreme court.
Critics said that the law was undemocratic because only 50 per cent of adults in the country of 180 million people are literate.


Traditionally, feudal ties or business success have more appeal in Pakistani politics than academic achievement.

Pakistan MPs in fake degree scandal - Central & South Asia - Al Jazeera English
 
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