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I asked for evidence which can support your words.But you said:"You don't have to believe our words.Its well known fact..."Do you mean "This is true because I say so"?
A guy who comes from the so-called"freedom and democracy country" speaks like a dictator.LOL

And yet you stated that you believe that the Soviets stole our nuclear tech in your words. Funny ain't it?

Read and weep. I figure you can find it out for yourself, but I will help you with that.
Spies Who Spilled Atomic Bomb Secrets | History | Smithsonian

As part of the Soviet Union's spy ring, these Americans and Britons leveraged their access to military secrets to help Russia become a nuclear power

Despite being an ally during World War II, the Soviet Union launched an all-out espionage effort to uncover the military and defense secrets of the United States and Britain in the 1940s. Within days of Britain's highly classified decision in 1941 to begin research on building an atomic bomb, an informant in the British civil service notified the Soviets. As the top-secret plan to build the bomb, called the Manhattan Project, took shape in the United States, the Soviet spy ring got wind of it before the FBI knew of the secret program's existence. Barely four years after the United States dropped two atomic bombs on Japan in August 1945, the Soviet Union detonated its own in August 1949, much sooner that expected.

The Soviets did not lack for available recruits for spying, says John Earl Haynes, espionage historian and author of Early Cold War Spies. What drove these college-educated Americans and Britons to sell their nations' atomic secrets? Some were ideologically motivated, enamored of communist beliefs, explains Haynes. Others were motivated by the notion of nuclear parity; one way to prevent a nuclear war, they reasoned, was to make sure that no nation had a monopoly on that awesome power.

For many years, the depth of Soviet spying was unknown. The big breakthrough began in 1946 when the United States, working with Britain, deciphered the code Moscow used to send its telegraph cables. Venona, as the decoding project was named, remained an official secret until it was declassified in 1995. Because government authorities did not want to reveal that they had cracked the Russian code, Venona evidence could not be used in court, but it could trigger investigations and surveillance hoping to nail suspects in the act of spying or extract a confession from them. As Venona decryption improved in the late 1940s and early 1950s, it blew the cover of several spies.

Investigations resulted in the execution or imprisonment of a dozen or more people who had passed atomic secrets to the Soviets, but no one knows how many spies got away. Here are some of the ones we know about:

John Cairncross
Considered the first atomic spy, John Cairncross was eventually identified as one of the Cambridge Five, a group of upper-middle class young men who had met at Cambridge University in the 1930s, became passionate communists and eventually Soviet spies during World War II and into the 1950s. In his position as secretary to the chairman of Britain's scientific advisory committee, Cairncross gained access to a high-level report in the fall of 1941 that confirmed the feasibility of a uranium bomb. He promptly leaked the information to Moscow agents. In 1951 when British agents closed in on other members of the Cambridge spy ring, Cairncross was interrogated after documents in his handwriting were discovered in a suspect's apartment.

Ultimately he was not charged, and according to some reports, asked by British officials to resign and keep quiet. He moved to the United States where he taught French literature at Northwestern University. In 1964, questioned again, he admitted to spying for Russia against Germany in WWII, but denied giving any information harmful to Britain. He went to work for the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization in Rome and later lived in France. Cairncross returned to England a few months before his death in 1995, and went to his grave insisting that the information he gave Moscow was "relatively innocuous." In the late 1990s when Russia under its new democracy made public its KGB files from the last 70 years, the documents revealed that Cairncross was indeed the agent who provided "highly secret documentation [of] the British Government to organise and develop the work on atomic energy."
Klaus Fuchs
Dubbed the most important atomic spy in history, Klaus Fuchs was a primary physicist on the Manhattan Project and a lead scientist at Britain's nuclear facility by 1949. Just weeks after the Soviets exploded their atomic bomb in August 1949, a Venona decryption of a 1944 message revealed that information describing important scientific processes related to construction of the A-bomb had been sent from the United Sates to Moscow. FBI agents identified Klaus Fuchs as the author.

Born in Germany in 1911, Fuchs joined the Communist Party as student, and fled to England during the rise of Nazism in 1933. Attending Bristol and Edinburgh universities, he excelled in physics. Because he was a German national he was interned for several months in Canada but returned and cleared to work on atomic research in England. By the time he became a British citizen in 1942, he had already contacted the Soviet Embassy in London and volunteered his services as a spy. He was transferred to the Los Alamos lab and began handing over detailed information about the bomb construction, including sketches and dimensions. When he returned to England in 1946, he went to work at Britain's nuclear research facility, and passed information on creating a hydrogen bomb to the Soviet Union. In December 1949, authorities, alerted by the Venona cable, questioned him. In a matter of few weeks, Fuchs confessed all. He was tried and sentenced to 14 years in prison. After serving nine years he was released to East Germany, where he resumed work as a scientist. He died in 1988.

Theodore Hall
For nearly half a century Fuchs was thought to have been the most significant spy at Los Alamos, but the secrets Ted Hall divulged to the Soviets preceded Fuchs and were also very critical. A Harvard graduate at age 18, Hall, at 19, was the youngest scientist on the Manhattan project in 1944. Unlike Fuchs and the Rosenbergs, he got away with his misdeeds. Hall worked on experiments for the bomb that was dropped on Nagasaki, the same type that the Soviet detonated in 1949. As a boy, Hall witnessed his family suffer during the Great Depression and his brother advised him to drop the family name Holtzberg to escape anti-Semitism. Such harsh realities of the American system affected young Hall, who joined the Marxist John Reed Club upon arrival at Harvard. When he was recruited to work at Los Alamos, he was haunted, he explained decades later, by thoughts of how to spare humanity the devastation of nuclear power. Finally, on leave in New York in October 1944, he decided to equalize the playing field, contacted the Soviets and volunteered to keep them apprised of the bomb research.

With the help of his courier and Harvard colleague, Saville Sax (a fervent communist and aspiring writer), Hall used coded references to Walt Whitman's Leaves of Grass to set up meeting times. In December 1944 Hall delivered what was probably the first atomic secret from Los Alamos, an update on the creation of the plutonium bomb. In the fall of 1946 he enrolled in University of Chicago, and was working on his PhD in 1950 when the FBI turned its spotlight on him. His real name had surfaced in a decrypted message. But Fuch's courier, Harry Gold who was already in prison, could not identify him as the man, other than Fuchs, that he had collected secrets from. Hall never went to trial. After a career in radiobiology, he moved to Great Britain and worked as a biophysicist until his retirement. When the 1995 Venona declassifications confirmed his spying from five decades earlier, he explained his motivations in a written statement: "It seemed to me that an American monopoly was dangerous and should be prevented. I was not the only scientist to take that view." He died in 1999 at age 74.

Harry Gold, David Greenglass, Ethel and Julius Rosenberg
When Klaus Fuchs confessed in January 1950, his revelations would lead to the arrest of the man to whom he had passed the atomic secrets in New Mexico, even though the courier had used an alias. Harry Gold, a 39-year-old Philadelphia chemist had been ferrying stolen information, mainly from American industries, to the Soviets since 1935. When the FBI found a map of Santa Fe in Gold's home, he panicked and told all. Convicted in 1951 and sentenced to 30 years, his confession put authorities on the trail to other spies, most famously Julius and Ethel Rosenberg and Ethel's brother David Greenglass. After being drafted into the Army, David Greenglass was transferred to Los Alamos in 1944, where he worked as a machinist. Encouraged by his brother-in-law, Julius Rosenberg, a New York engineer and devoted communist who actively recruited his friends to spy, Greenglass soon began supplying information from Los Alamos.




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China Shows New intermediate-Range Missile Capable of Targeting Ships

Beijing says DF-26 is also new strategic nuclear missile (UPDATED)


Military vehicles carrying DF-26 ballistic missiles, drive past Tiananmen Gate during a military parade to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the end of World War II, in Beijing Thursday, Sept. 3, 2015 / AP

BY: Bill Gertz Follow @BillGertz

September 4, 2015 4:57 am

China’s display of military hardware in Beijing showcased several new weapons systems built as part of the People’s Liberation Army military buildup, including a new intermediate-range missile capable of attacking U.S. forces on Guam.

The DF-26 ballistic missile was revealed to the public for the first time during a parade through Beijing’s Tiananmen Square marking the end of World War II.

The Washington Free Beacon first reported last year that the DF-26C had been deployed. Its range is estimated to be at least 2,200 miles—enough to hit targets at the major U.S. military hub on the island of Guam.

The DF-26 is one reason the U.S. military has deployed its newest ground-based anti-missile system, the Theater High-Altitude Area Defense, or THAAD, to Guam.

The parade appeared to be the latest step in Beijing’s anti-Japan propaganda program, which has sought to portray Tokyo as reverting to World War II militarism.


DF-26

In addition to elements of China’s missile force, the parade involved 12,000 troops, tanks, and scores of trucks and launchers carrying missiles, and appeared similar to past military reviews that were a feature of rule under the personality cult of Mao Zedong.

President Xi Jinping was the centerpiece of the military display and was shown on television standing through the sunroof of a black car as he reviewed PLA troop and weapons formations that lined the main boulevard through Tiananmen Square.

The square was the scene of the bloody June 1989 military crackdown when Chinese tanks and troops attacked unarmed protesters, ending a large-scale pro-democracy movement.

During his review, Xi greeted sections of troops along the route and all replied in unison with a Communist Party slogan, “Absolutely follow the Party’s command; be able to win a war; develop an excellent moral character.”

Xi criticized Japan for trying to “enslave China” during the war.

Beijing and Tokyo have been at odds over control of the Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea. China is claiming the islands, which are said to contain undersea oil and gas deposits, as its territory. Japan has owned the islands since the end of World War II.

Rick Fisher, a military analyst with the International Assessment and Strategy Center, said China’s carefully scripted rollout of the DF-26 included an official disclosure during the parade that the intermediate-range missile is capable of attacking “medium-sized ships.”

“This makes the DF-26 a second generation anti-access weapon that extends PLA strike capability far into the second island chain,” a string of islands hundreds of miles from China’s coast, Fisher said.

“This is alarming because the United States has barely started to respond to China’s first-generation anti-access ensemble targeting the first island chain, like the DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile,” he added.

The DF-21D also was displayed during the parade. It is considered a threat to U.S. aircraft carriers because the U.S. Navy has limited defenses against the high-speed maneuvering missile, which is accurate enough to strike a large ship at sea.

Peter Cook, a Pentagon spokesman, said yesterday that defense officials are not surprised by the DF-21D. “It wouldn’t be the first time that new military hardware of some sort was displayed at a military parade, so I would suggest to you it’s not completely surprising and not something we wouldn’t have expected,” he told reporters. He did not mention the DF-26 at the Pentagon news conference.

Cook was asked why the United States does not hold similar military displays.

“The U.S. military is the world’s foremost military, and people shouldn’t doubt that,” he said. “And people know the strength of the United States, the strength of our military, and I think it’s safe to say that we don’t need to display it at parades necessarily for people to understand what the United States is capable of.”

U.S. military analysts closely monitored the parade and the weapons presented, a defense official said, adding there were no major surprises in weapons displayed.

Both the DF-26 and the DF-21D missiles are part of what the Pentagon calls China’s anti-access area-denial weaponry and part of Beijing’s military doctrine that seeks to force the U.S. military, a fixture for peace and stability in Asia for decades, to move out of the region.

As a result, the Pentagon has launched what has become known as the “pivot to Asia.” However, critics say budget shortfalls have made the pivot less effective as a strategy to bolster allies and promote freedom of navigation in the region.

A Chinese announcer during the parade called the DF-21D “an important weapon in China’s asymmetric warfare”—the Chinese military’s strategy of using niche, high-technology weapons that would allow a weaker force to defeat a stronger military.

The CJ-10 long-range conventionally armed land-attack cruise missile also was on parade. It was described as a missile “capable of stealth penetration” that can inflict “palpable damage.” It is one of China’s main battle armaments, the announcer said.

In providing new details on the DF-26, a Chinese spokeswoman said the missile is capable of being launched with either or both nuclear and conventional armed warheads.

“The DF-26 can conduct medium- to long-range precise attacks on key ground targets and large to medium naval ships,” the spokeswoman said.

“It is China’s new weapon in its strategic deterrence system.”

Fisher said the DF-26 appears to be a main reason behind Russia’s decision to violate the U.S.-Russia Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty.

“The DF-26 [Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile] ASBM indicates that China is winning the anti-access versus access arms race with the United States,” he said.

As for the INF treaty, the missile “severely undermines” the 1987 accord.

“China’s deployment of new intermediate-range ballistic missile and medium-range ballistic missiles is a key reason why Russia has made repeated hints that it wants to end the INF Treaty,” he said.

The Chinese DF-26 deployment should prompt the U.S. government to realize that the INF treaty no longer contributes to U.S. national security, he said.

“The United States needs to start building its own force of [Medium-Range Ballistic Missiles] MRBMs and [Intermediate-Range Ballistic Missiles] IRBMs to deter China and Russia,” he said.

Short-range missiles in the parade included the DF-15B and DF-16, which Chinese state media said are used for conducting “precision strikes.”

One defense official said the parade did not produce any major surprises and was more significant for the four new high-technology weapons and capabilities that were not on display.

“They didn’t show their cyber warfare capabilities, or their anti-satellite missiles, or the new DF-41 ICBM or the hypersonic glide vehicle,” the official said.

Those weapons are the ones that are believed to present the greatest challenges for U.S. war planners.

The hypersonic glide vehicle initially identified as the Wu-14 is now being called the DF-ZF.:coffee::azn::D

Other missiles shown in the parade included the DF-31A and DF-5B intercontinental ballistic missiles, considered the backbone of China’s expanding strategic nuclear forces.

The DF-31A is a solid-fuel road-mobile missile that is an important strategic deterrent weapon for the Chinese.


DF-31 (Air Force National Air and Space Intelligence Center report)

The DF-5B is a modernized variant of one of China’s longer-range missiles deployed in silos.

“It is a shield of defense for national sovereignty, and national dignity,” the Chinese spokeswoman said of the DF-5B.

Mark Stokes, a former Pentagon China affairs policymaker, said the inclusion of advanced missiles such as the DF-26, DF-21D, DF-5B, and DF-16 “strongly suggests” the systems are operational.

“Other systems, such as the DF-41 and hypersonic cruise vehicle, are likely in the advanced stages of research and development,” said Stokes, with the Project 2049 Institute. “All are capabilities that have implications for the U.S., allies, and friends in the region.”

Fisher said the DF-5B has a multiple-warhead capacity that is based on technology obtained from U.S. satellite dispenser technology transferred to China in the 1990s for commercial satellite launches.


DF-5B missiles are presented during a military parade to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the end of World War II in Beijing Thursday Sept. 3, 2015 / AP

The diversion of U.S. space technology by China for its missile and warhead programs was highlighted in a 2000 congressional investigation known as the Cox Commission, after its chairman Rep. Chris Cox (R. Calif.).

The commission’s report warning of Chinese obtaining multiple-warhead technology has been confirmed, said Fisher, a former congressional staff member who worked for Cox.

China’s DF-5B warhead “illustrates the dangers of cooperating with China in space, as it will exploit dual use technologies to threaten U.S. security,” Fisher said.

Asked about Xi’s announcement that China would cut 300,000 troops to streamline its forces, Cook, the Pentagon spokesman, said the announcement was not significant.

“I don’t think we have a particular reaction to that news, other than it’s basically in line with what the Chinese have said in the past about the size of their military going forward,” Cook said.

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it mazes me a bit that chinese tell the world all of the weapons displayed on parade or under development are all for peaceful purposes. peaceful cruise missiles, peaceful tanks, peaceful ICBM and so on. peaceful exercises. everywhere you can see. chinese apparently assume all the people outside their country are idiots. all of such weapons of mass destructions displayed will escalate the arms race and increase the tension. like in the nature, action provokes reaction. continuing the policy, China will become a target, especially by America nuclear armed forces. there is a thin line between life and death. brave and stupidity.

Japan soldiers haven´t fired a single shot since end of WW 2. I don´t recall right now, after this world war how many times chinese clowns staged wars against her neighbors, exporting genocide, helping separatism movements outside China, creating chaos and advancing a policy of intimidation. chinese may stop looking at Japan, but look into themselves. china history is a history of bloodsheds. inside and outside the country.
 
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it mazes me a bit that chinese tell the world all of the weapons displayed on parade or under development are all for peaceful purposes. peaceful cruise missiles, peaceful tanks, peaceful ICBM and so on. peaceful exercises. everywhere you can see. chinese apparently assume all the people outside their country are idiots. all of such weapons of mass destructions displayed will escalate the arms race and increase the tension. like in the nature, action provokes reaction. continuing the policy, China will become a target, especially by America nuclear armed forces. there is a thin line between life and death. brave and stupidity.

Japan soldiers haven´t fired a single shot since end of WW 2. I don´t recall right now, after this world war how many times chinese clowns staged wars against her neighbors, exporting genocide, helping separatism movements outside China, creating chaos and advancing a policy of intimidation. chinese may stop looking at Japan, but look into themselves. china history is a history of bloodsheds. inside and outside the country.



Don't worry about China, worry about Vietnam first!
 
it mazes me a bit that chinese tell the world all of the weapons displayed on parade or under development are all for peaceful purposes. peaceful cruise missiles, peaceful tanks, peaceful ICBM and so on. peaceful exercises. everywhere you can see. chinese apparently assume all the people outside their country are idiots. all of such weapons of mass destructions displayed will escalate the arms race and increase the tension. like in the nature, action provokes reaction. continuing the policy, China will become a target, especially by America nuclear armed forces. there is a thin line between life and death. brave and stupidity.

The display of force is for a number of reasons:

1. To protect the nation by deterring potential enemies (which is a contribution to peace)

2. To prevent an arms race because small countries are practically hopeless to achieve a similar size and scale. Countries like US and Russia are already armed to teeth

3. To adapt military tech to civilian tech in many fields of science, which is a contribution to global development

4. To deter countries like the US from unilaterally disturbing peace in East Asia, e.g., waging war against North Korea

5. To demonstrate that despite of its capabilities, China is still very much reserved in its arms development, and even is committed to reduce the military by 300.000

6. To ensure our friends that China is a responsible great power although it is still a developing nation
 
it mazes me a bit that chinese tell the world all of the weapons displayed on parade or under development are all for peaceful purposes. peaceful cruise missiles, peaceful tanks, peaceful ICBM and so on. peaceful exercises. everywhere you can see. chinese apparently assume all the people outside their country are idiots. all of such weapons of mass destructions displayed will escalate the arms race and increase the tension. like in the nature, action provokes reaction. continuing the policy, China will become a target, especially by America nuclear armed forces. there is a thin line between life and death. brave and stupidity.

Japan soldiers haven´t fired a single shot since end of WW 2. I don´t recall right now, after this world war how many times chinese clowns staged wars against her neighbors, exporting genocide, helping separatism movements outside China, creating chaos and advancing a policy of intimidation. chinese may stop looking at Japan, but look into themselves. china history is a history of bloodsheds. inside and outside the country.

Peace through strength.
 
Peace through strength.

Yup, like I said before, it's peace enforcement.

The display of force is for a number of reasons:

1. To protect the nation by deterring potential enemies (which is a contribution to peace)

2. To prevent an arms race because small countries are practically hopeless to achieve a similar size and scale. Countries like US and Russia are already armed to teeth

3. To adapt military tech to civilian tech in many fields of science, which is a contribution to global development

4. To deter countries like the US from unilaterally disturbing peace in East Asia, e.g., waging war against North Korea

5. To demonstrate that despite of its capabilities, China is still very much reserved in its arms development, and even is committed to reduce the military by 300.000

6. To ensure our friends that China is a responsible great power although it is still a developing nation

Yes, the retrenchment of 300,000 personnel is a good demonstration that PLA is positioned as a peace enforcement arm, not war machine.

And don't forget about China's very low defense budget of only RMB 889 billion (2015), while US is US$ 815.5 billion. As % of GDP, China is slightly above 1%, about same as Japan which has Pacifist Constitution, much lower than the 2% minimum requirement by NATO members, and way lower than 4.5% of US. Such a low defense budget is a testimony to China's pacifism.

US Defense Spending for 2015 - Charts
 
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Yup, like I said before, it's peace enforcement.



Yes, the retrenchment of 300,000 personnel is a good demonstration that PLA is positioned as a peace enforcement arm, not war machine.

And don't forget about China's very low defense budget of only RMB 889 billion (2015), while US is US$ 815.5 billion. As % of GDP, China is slightly above 1%, about same as Japan which has Pacifist Constitution, much lower than the 2% minimum requirement by NATO members, and way lower than 4.5% of US. Such a low defense budget is a testimony to China's pacifism.

US Defense Spending for 2015 - Charts

The west will blah blah blah and claim China understate her military budget and is a threat to world peace. :lol:
 
it mazes me a bit that chinese tell the world all of the weapons displayed on parade or under development are all for peaceful purposes. peaceful cruise missiles, peaceful tanks, peaceful ICBM and so on. peaceful exercises. everywhere you can see. chinese apparently assume all the people outside their country are idiots. all of such weapons of mass destructions displayed will escalate the arms race and increase the tension. like in the nature, action provokes reaction. continuing the policy, China will become a target, especially by America nuclear armed forces. there is a thin line between life and death. brave and stupidity.

Japan soldiers haven´t fired a single shot since end of WW 2. I don´t recall right now, after this world war how many times chinese clowns staged wars against her neighbors, exporting genocide, helping separatism movements outside China, creating chaos and advancing a policy of intimidation. chinese may stop looking at Japan, but look into themselves. china history is a history of bloodsheds. inside and outside the country.
Peace come from Power, Power come from Bigger stick, Stick come from advanced science & money ... Vietnam should consider China more peaceful than Japan, coz local ppl died during WWII occupied by Imperial Japan much more than loss during Sino-Vietnam conflict.

If u think U.S willing to fight nuclear war with Russia or China ... u r wrong, coz F22 or Super-carrier become so weak in a nuclear war easily nuked. U.S / Russia / China all have ICBMs to destroy each other or be destroyed ... just U.S lack of current advantage when start a nuclear war, and above three have their national missile defense systems.

U.S nuke China or Russia, China and Russia nuke back ... What result U.S can get after a nuclear war with us ? This is do not a Iraqi War !
 
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Peace come from Power, Power come from Bigger stick, Stick come from advanced science & money ... Vietnam should consider China more peaceful than Japan, coz local ppl died during WWII occupied by Imperial Japan much more than loss during Sino-Vietnam conflict.

If u think U.S willing to fight nuclear war with Russia or China ... u r wrong, coz F22 or Super-carrier become so weak in a nuclear war easily nuked. U.S / Russia / China all have ICBMs to destroy each other or be destroyed ... just U.S lack of current advantage when start a nuclear war, and above three have their national missile defense systems.

U.S nuke China or Russia, China and Russia nuke back ... What result U.S can get after a nuclear war with us ? This is do not a Iraqi War !
I have no problem with china having nukes. I believe the US has no problem, either. or I would say it is a perception of threat how they see you, and how you make your intention clear to others. it is their perception of others, that matters. how Vietnam sees you, it is a question, too.
 

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