Chinese Flanker Family: J-11, J-16 ... Su-27SK/UBK, Su-30MKK

[Deino]

Oh no ... via War is boring! What a piece of crap.

 

[Avicenna]

Oh no ... via War is boring! What a piece of crap.

What's wrong with the article?

 

[Figaro]

What's wrong with the article?

Although this article doesn't look too terrible, most "War is Boring" articles pertaining to the PLA (particularly those written by David Axe and Kyle Mizokami) are extremely unreliable and downright biased.

 

[Figaro]

Any news on the J-16D? It seems like ages since we've gotten an update (apart from a couple photos by oedosoldier). The importance of the EW flanker cannot be understated. It seems apart from the J-16, it's been very quiet at SAC. The J-16D and J-11D seem to have gone underground

 

[帅的一匹]

Any news on the J-16D? It seems like ages since we've gotten an update (apart from a couple photos by oedosoldier). The importance of the EW flanker cannot be understated. It seems apart from the J-16, it's been very quiet at SAC. The J-16D and J-11D seem to have gone underground

J11b is still under construction.

 

[Figaro]

J11b is still under construction.

We have not seen new serials I believe ...

 

[Deino]

What's wrong with the article?

Just as Figaro noted... and look at the last paragraph

...followingChina’s failure to get a license to produce that specific part and its own difficulties in producing clones of the original Su-27SK engines for the J-11.

China was never trying to copy the AL-31F. They had their issues with the WS-10, but that's long over.

 

[lcloo]

I think the Chinese flanker family (J-11, J-15, J-16) is in the last leg of further development. The results of J-20 vs J-11 & J-10 in aerial engagements will dawn upon the military central committee members like that of the Gulf wars did in 1980s.

And stealth UACV will gradually take over the strikers (J-16, JH-7A) roles as load carrying capacity advances.

 

[Armchair-General]

What are the main differences in the air frames of the J-11, J-15 and J-16. And what is the commonality of parts between them.

 

[MiG-35-BD]

What are the main differences in the air frames of the J-11, J-15 and J-16. And what is the commonality of parts between them.

J-11 >> Chinese Su-27
J-15 >> Naval
J-16>> Chinese Su-30 MKI type

 

[帅的一匹]

J-11 >> Chinese Su-27
J-15 >> Naval
J-16>> Chinese Su-30 MKI type

J16 =Chinese Su30 MK2

 

[MiG-35-BD]

J16 =Chinese Su30 MK2

I think the J-16 is superior to the MK2. Has a better airframe, considerably better avionics, etc. Thus the MKI

 

[Deino]

I think the J-16 is superior to the MK2. Has a better airframe, considerably better avionics, etc. Thus the MKI

But that comparison is off since the J-16 uses a modified Su-30MKK's or MK2's airframe featuring NO canards and TVC-engines ... therefore this comparison.

 

[MiG-35-BD]

But that comparison is off since the J-16 uses a modified Su-30MKK's or MK2's airframe featuring NO canards and TVC-engines ... therefore this comparison.

True. But I was talking more in terms of capability. Or presumed capability.

 

[Ultima Thule]

True. But I was talking more in terms of capability. Or presumed capability.

No in the term of Capabilites and mission profile its more closer to F-15E/ F-18/EA-18G

J-11 >> Chinese Su-27
J-15 >> Naval
J-16>> Chinese Su-30 MKI type

J-11B >> Su-30
J-16 >> F-15E strike Eagle/EA-18G
J15 >> Su-33/F/A-18/ F/A-18E,F