Chinese Flanker Family: J-11, J-16 ... Su-27SK/UBK, Su-30MKK

Deino · Mar 8, 2020

What do you think about this tweet:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1236344409421017092

According to an air brigade PV from PLAAF Dandong, the unit is using a fighter jet, the J-11B / BS, which will soon receive a new fighter.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av68821266

I'm a bit confused, since these J-11B/BS are clearly from the 89th Air Brigade at Pulandian, while the brigade at Dangong is the 88th still flying J-7Es, so could it be that not the 1st Air Brigade at Anshan will get J-20s but the 89th at Pulandian?

Deino

kungfugymnast · Mar 8, 2020

LKJ86 said:
J-11B is equipped with WS-10 engines and China's avionics and ammunitions.

J-11D is equivalent to Russia's Su-35.

J11B only later being upgraded with WS10 engines in batches.

J11D earlier version without TVC is equivalent to Su27SM3. The newer one has better radar than Su35 Irbis-E but the Su35 still having more powerful thrusts.

LKJ86 · Mar 8, 2020

kungfugymnast said:
J11B only later being upgraded with WS10 engines in batches.

J11D earlier version without TVC is equivalent to Su27SM3. The newer one has better radar than Su35 Irbis-E but the Su35 still having more powerful thrusts.

@Deino

juj06750 · Mar 8, 2020

again,
only initial batch of J11B is russian engine;
most J11B have since been chinese engine
and J11D was just testbed for stronger indigenous system in 2015;
there's only prototype; never produced; and nothing relevant to any russian jet
once again, to foreigners
plz just leave if you're NO tangible clue on your claim
I hope this value forum is not for demanding but for supplying

Deino · Mar 8, 2020

juj06750 said:
again,
only initial batch of J11B is russian engine;
most J11B have since been chinese engine
and J11D was just testbed for stronger indigenous system in 2015;
there's only prototype; never produced; and nothing relevant to any russian jet
once again, to foreigners
plz just leave if you're NO tangible clue on your claim
I hope this value forum is not for demanding but for supplying

And again from me. I think everyone is welcome to post, contribute and discuss but to be taken seriously one has to prove his claims, esp. when they are contradicting common knowledge.

Therefore again, if the J-11B uses as AESA, it might be fine, but then you need to explain why the images i showed you do not show an AESA, but a standard radar and why not even a single image is known showing one? Also, why most reliable sources don't agree with you?

Therefore it is you who must supply ...

Best

Deino · Mar 9, 2020

LKJ86 said:
@Deino

This alone is plain wrong since the J-11B was not later upgraded to the WS-10, it was to feature this engine from the beginning.

However when production of the batch 01 was underway - in fact all assigned kater to the now 1st Air Brigade at Anshan - the Taihang prooved to be troubled and sk it was decided to use the AL-31F instead as in all J-11A fighters. Only from Batch 02 these issues were solved and since then no PLAAF Flanker ever was built with the Russian engine.