Chinese Flanker Family: J-11, J-16 ... Su-27SK/UBK, Su-30MKK

azesus · Feb 20, 2020

J-11 = licenced Su-27SK ... J-11B further development with WS-10A and Chinese avionics
J-11BS = unlicenced Su-27UBK
J-15 = unlicenced Su-33 (carrier-borne fighter)
J-16 = twin-seater, striker, vased on Su-30MKK

juj06750 · Feb 20, 2020

J11 licensed production of SU27SK
J11A licensed production of SU27SK but chinese indigenous radar
J11B 100% indigenous production (including engines, AESA radar, etc)
J15 carrier variant based on J11B
J16 striker variant based on J11B

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-11

Deino · Feb 20, 2020

juj06750 said:
J11 licensed production of SU27SK
J11A licensed production of SU27SK but chinese indigenous radar
J11B 100% indigenous production (including engines, AESA radar, etc)
J15 carrier variant based on J11B
J16 striker variant based on J11B

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-11

That's wrong for both the A and B, since the A does not have a Chinese radar and the B has no AESA.

You not even read Wiki properly! :crazy:

juj06750 · Feb 20, 2020

sure it is :agree:

J11A is chinese pulse doppler radar
J11B is chinese first AESA radar
now it's been more than 10 years we've run AESA
we make the world's best AESA now

Deino · Feb 20, 2020

juj06750 said:
sure it is
J11A is chinese pulse doppler radar
J11B is chinese first AESA radar
now it's been more than 10 years we've run AESA
we make the world's best AESA now

No it is not and I don't know why you think such a BS is correct. The J-11A uses the regular Russian N001 radar, while later ones eventually received the improved N001VE radar, which anyway uses a Twist cassegrain antenna.

The J-11B then was the first one fitted with a more modern Chinese multifunction PD-radar (Type 1493) similar to the US APG-63/-65.

Could it be that you mix your claim with the latest J-11D!?? But neither the J-11A or B uses an AESA.

Otherwise I kindly ask You for any proof, since not even your Wiki-link you posted mentions this.

juj06750 · Feb 22, 2020

a good example is; as in the above
J11B is equipped with PL15, which ranges up to 300km against AWACS size
J10C/J11B/J15/J16/J20 are mighty AESA radar, which is capable of firing long range AAM
only strong AESA could home such long range AAM

Deino · Feb 22, 2020

juj06750 said:
View attachment 607566 a good example is; as in the above
J11B is equipped with PL15, which ranges up to 300km against AWACS size
J10C/J11B/J15/J16/J20 are mighty AESA radar, which is capable of firing long range AAM
only strong AESA could home such long range AAM

Oh come one ... one single image showing a PL-15 is for your proof that the whole fleet uses an AESA radar even if all reliable posters assume this only to be included in the latest J-11BG... come on. :hitwall:

LKJ86 · Feb 24, 2020

J-11BH

Via @南海舰队 from Weixin

kungfugymnast · Feb 24, 2020

juj06750 said:
View attachment 607566 a good example is; as in the above
J11B is equipped with PL15, which ranges up to 300km against AWACS size
J10C/J11B/J15/J16/J20 are mighty AESA radar, which is capable of firing long range AAM
only strong AESA could home such long range AAM

J11B can could carry PL15 even without AESA as the long range missile guidance system could be assisted by AWACS. Deino is actually right, the J11B is using China made improved version of pulse doppler radar and the engines are still Su27 engines. However there are rumored plans of upgrade and probably few J11B being served as testbed for new AESA & WS10 engines following Su27SM2 foot steps. J11D is the actual new China single seat flanker with AESA and WS10 engines equivalent to Russian Su27SM3.