Chinese Flanker Family: J-11, J-16 ... Su-27SK/UBK, Su-30MKK

[Ultima Thule]

Pakistan need J-16 ASAP.

Not possible, because design is Russian Intellectual property (Su-27/Su-30 series of jets)

 

[jupiter2007]

Not possible, because design is Russian Intellectual property (Su-27/Su-30 series of jets)

J-16 is slightly different than J-11 and SU-27 and it can be further customize for Pakistan. Didn’t China sell hundreds of J-7 variants which were copy of Russian MiG-21?

 

[Ultima Thule]

J-16 is slightly different than J-11 and SU-27 and it can be further customize for Pakistan. Didn’t China sell hundreds of J-7 variants which were copy of Russian MiG-21?

Oh bhai this happened when China had have Sino-Russian split, and Russians gets smart afterwards, on the very first deal of su-27 with China Russians put a clause that they are not able to export any su-27 and its copies to 3rd party,and by the way as for your information J-16 is based on Russian Su-30MKK/2

 

[Deino]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1229321385018888192

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Oh bhai this happened when China had have Sino-Russian split, and Russians gets smart afterwards, on the very first deal of su-27 with China Russians put a clause that they are not able to export any su-27 and its copies to 3rd party,and by the way as for your information J-16 is based on Russian Su-30MKK/2

Well Maybe if we Pay Russians some money for it maybe they will. In this way we can get J 16s and Russians will not invite Anger from Indians

 

[Deino]

Well Maybe if we Pay Russians some money for it maybe they will. In this way we can get J 16s and Russians will not invite Anger from Russians

Oh well, maybe beter to cone to reality and as such simply forget these wet-dreams, China won't sell the Flankers in the same way it won't sell J-20s and even more the PAF cannot afford them.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Oh well, maybe beter to cone to reality and as such simply forget these wet-dreams, China won't sell the Flankers in the same way it won't sell J-20s and even more the PAF cannot afford them.

But why Flankers? They are not 5th gen

 

[Deino]

But why Flankers? They are not 5th gen

Since the contract with Russia explicitly forbid this.

 

[LKJ86]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1229321385018888192

Do you think PLA would use YJ-83K all the time?

 

[Deino]

Do you think PLA would use YJ-83K all the time?

Surely not, but as I stated, I thought - and still think as long as we haven't seen a YJ-12 under a J-16 - this one is too large and heavy. Therefore I won't be surprised if it ix another new type of ASM.

 

[LKJ86]

this one is too large and heavy

What are its weight and size?

 

[Deino]

What are its weight and size?

I have no data at hand, but comparisons with those on the H-6L my quess is, it is loo large and heavy - larger and heavier than a Brahmos - to fit two under a Flanker's wing.
Even between the engines would be a surprise IMO.

 

[LKJ86]

I have no data at hand, but comparisons with those on the H-6L my quess is, it is loo large and heavy - larger and heavier than a Brahmos - to fit two under a Flanker's wing.
Even between the engines would be a surprise IMO.

Now, I understand that why you are always surprised.

 

[LKJ86]

Via @航空工业 from Weibo

 

[Haris Ali2140]

@LKJ86 What's the difference between J-11, J-15 and J-16???