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China's property crisis deepens with 87% value wipeout in developers' dollar bonds

Please don't come to China to invest, China has enough foreign for investments. western financial secretaries keep coming to China for visits, don't know why.

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Look at this one more propaganda , lie and conspiracy against China by west, Indians, Japanese and probably Martians too.

Please share a CCP approved Global Times article that proves Chinese Real Estate is making profits which is 10 times higher than entire world combined. Thanks in advance.
Go shut up fool, stop tagging me.
 
Lol, you are the best investor, you don't know, but you are finding out.
We are definitely better than you.

Moment of silence for the guy in charge of the BRI desk at a chinese bank.

Time to roll over another loan ;)

All the domestic books are full of great real estate assets, very liquid, and flush with cash should be no problem
 
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If you go to their stock market, the indices are below the heights they achieved in 2007.
True, but it has not been monotonic downward slope. It peaked around 2015 and. Now it is in a down phase, likely due to Covid induced downturn. But the cyclic behavior makes me think the market is rigged rather than natural. Or, the Chinese 'investors' are gamblers rather than patient investors (the buy and hold kind).
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This article is just saying half of the story.

The problem is the real estate price in China is not falling.

There's no urge for the real estate developers to lower their price as what Chinese government want.

Crisis?

Do Chinese real estate see there's a crisis??

True, but it has not been monotonic downward slope. It peaked around 2015 and. Now it is in a down phase, likely due to Covid induced downturn. But the cyclic behavior makes me think the market is rigged rather than natural. Or, the Chinese 'investors' are gamblers rather than patient investors (the buy and hold kind).
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China stock market is different than USA.

In China, the government doesn't want to stock price went to the roof.

The government is always interfering, to keep the price low.

Basically, speculating or using stock market price as an indicator of China economy is useless.
 
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There are two data?

its highly variable but most recent performance is record low
 
Americans are still dreaming of defeating China with their mouths.
 

The Chinese government has different philosophy regarding on how to measure the economy.

It's useless to speculate in China stock market, because Chinese government loves to interfere the stock market price, to keep the price low.

Chinese government uses the real data like electricity, good shipment, etc to measure the economy.

Stock market price fall 5%, but the electricity consumption and good shipment increase 5%, for Chinese government is a good sign.

Real estate price fall 10% but the home owner increases 10%, for Chinese government is also a good sign.

The fall of pork supply and the rise of pork price are nightmare for Chinese government, despite others see the increase pork price means more profit for the rich, and indirectly will benefit the poor later.
 
First Rule in China --- NOTHING HAPPENS IN CHINA WITHOUT GOVERNMENT'S APPROVAL INCLUDING ANY CRISIS !

This so called property crisis is in fact DELIBERATE attempt by China to root out property speculation. This is having an impact on Billions of dollars invested in China by Foreigners via 3rd party funds. These funds are run by economic hitmen and Vultures of their respective countries and they rely on SPECULATIONS TO JACK-UP THE PROPERTY PRICES ! China is getting rid of them even if it means local property implodes.
 
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