China’s military rise matter of concern: Naval commanders

[Beast]

US, UK, France, Japan, India, Australia. This will be the coalition that will counter Communist China’s aggression. Watch how this coalition coordinates efforts in the next few years as their bond grows stronger with China’s rise.

Communist China’s belligerence is a threat to the free world and must be checked or we will all be living in concentration camps like the Tibetans and Uyghurs.

Lol... Another haters comment. The real threat to world Peace is USA. The close allies which Australia loves to stick to. That makes Australia equally a threat to world peace. See how middle East is messed up from Iran, Iraq, Syria to Libya. All started by USA military ambition and folly. They have no regards to human lives but global domination only.

 

[beijingwalker]

US, UK, France, Japan, India, Australia. This will be the coalition that will counter Communist China’s aggression. Watch how this coalition coordinates efforts in the next few years as their bond grows stronger with China’s rise.

Communist China’s belligerence is a threat to the free world and must be checked or we will all be living in concentration camps like the Tibetans and Uyghurs.

You are appointed the chief commander of this coalition you just created.

 

[hyperman]

Malaysia will take care of Indonesia, Vietnam & Philippines.

why would Malaysia "take care" of Indonesia or Australia? what does this even mean? I don't know why you think its in Malaysia interests to support Chinese hegemony. Malaysia's interests are not necessarily Pakistan's interests in relation to China.

PLAN is considered sending warship to Mediterranean to back Egypt , UAE, Russia and Libya allies.

lmao, the chinese Navy can barely project power in the pacific, and now chinese users are under the delusion that they will project it in the Mediterranean, in NATO's backyard. lol

 

[Beast]

why would Malaysia "take care" of Indonesia or Australia? what does this even mean? I don't know why you think its in Malaysia interests to support Chinese hegemony. Malaysia's interests are not necessarily Pakistan's interests in relation to China.


lmao, the chinese Navy can barely project power in the pacific, and now chinese users are under the delusion that they will project it in the Mediterranean, in NATO's backyard. lol

Barely? Lol... It's even not a matter of yes or no but whether China wants to do it.

A navy with 2 operational 65000tons aircraft carrier and 30 destroyers and 54 frigates plus plenty of auxiliary ships. Only a fool will think it can't project power in Mediterranean, India ocean and Pacific ocean.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-38431999

China's first aircraft carrier has set off to the Western Pacific, the navy says, describing the departure as part of routine exercises.

It is the first time the Liaoning has been deployed to "distant sea waters", state media report.

https://thediplomat.com/2017/07/chinese-navy-conducts-live-fire-drill-in-mediterranean-sea/

Chinese Navy Conducts Live-Fire Drill in Mediterranean Sea
A Chinese flotilla staged a live-fire exercise in the Mediterranean en route to the Baltic Sea.

 

[beijingwalker]

lmao, the chinese Navy can barely project power in the pacific, and now chinese users are under the delusion that they will project it in the Mediterranean, in NATO's backyard. lol

NATO is truly nothing without US, future looks very bleak for NATO.

 

[hyperman]

NATO is truly nothing without US, future looks very bleak for NATO.

when you manage to build a single defensive alliance with a single country other than your client state Pakistan, let us know. Forget Europe, you are getting outmaneuvered in your own backyard, everyone from the Vietnamese to the Japanese to the Taiwanese to the Philippines to the Indonesians is wary of any chinese soft power. NATO is an alliance which has lasted decades and has managed to quite possibly be the largest and most integrated defense structure in the history of the world.

 

[beijingwalker]

when you manage to build a single defensive alliance with a single country other than your client state Pakistan, let us know. Forget Europe, you are getting outmaneuvered in your own backyard, everyone from the Vietnamese to the Japanese to the Taiwanese to the Philippines to the Indonesians is wary of any chinese soft power. NATO is an alliance which has lasted decades and has managed to quite possibly be the largest and most integrated defense structure in the history of the world.

I m just telling the truth that Nato is nothing without US, once China can fully tie down US in the future, Russia can finish off the rest of Nato in couples of weeks. As for some small quarrels in SCS, that's nothing, every country has some small annoyances, US has more, but not a single shot was fired in SCS, people just like to argue, that's it.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Pakistani Navy can handle incompetent Indian Navy thats for sure

 

[hyperman]

I m just telling the truth that Nato is nothing without US, once China can fully tie down US in the future, Russia can finish off the rest of Nato in couples of weeks.

If you honestly believe that, then you are a very foolish person, and I hope very much so that the people in charge of China's foreign policy apparatus, are just like you, making absurd geolpolitical calculations..

 

[beijingwalker]

If you honestly believe that, then you are a very foolish person, and I hope very much so that the people in charge of China's foreign policy apparatus, are just like you, making absurd geolpolitical calculations..

Many US navy generals believe the same, google and find out, I certainly don't mean the situation will come to that point, but most people know I m telling the truth, Nato is nothing without US.

 

[dBSPL]

China’s military rise matter of concern: Naval commanders

Top naval commanders from leading countries with interests in the Indo-Pacific region today expressed concern over the military rise of China and the need to respect international law by keeping the sea trade routes open. Strategic circles describe Indo-Pacific from the east coast of Africa to the west coast of the US.

The naval commanders of India, Australia, Japan, France and the UK were present at ‘Raisina Dialogue 2020’, discussing “Navigating tides of revision in the Indo-Pacific”.

‘We are watching’

They (China) have 7-8 warships in the Indian Ocean at any given time.... We are watching. If anything impinges on us, we will act

Admiral Karambir Singh, Navy Chief

Navy Chief Admiral Karambir Singh said China’s navy had grown at a rapid pace.

Chinese ships had entered India’s exclusive economic zone. The Navy acted, and they moved out, he said. “The construct of the Indo-Pacific is not against anyone,” he said. In reply to a question on the UK and France joining the quad, he said: “We anyways operate together.”

Asked if Japan was worried about a war with China, General Koji Yamazaki, Chief of Staff, Joint Staff of the Japan Self-Defence Forces, said: “We are closely watching the situation.”

General Luc de Rancourt, Deputy Director General for International Relations and Strategy, Ministry of Armed Forces, France, clarified his nation’s Indo-Pacific strategy had not been designed against China. “We see China rising. We are seeing what it can do in South China Sea,” he added.

Admiral Tony Radakin, Chief of UK’s Royal Navy, said: “We intend to play a greater role in Asia-Pacific.” The UK could start by using more of the Deigo Garcia in the southern Indian Ocean, he said.
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/china’s-military-rise-matter-of-concern-naval-commanders-26831

I don't have enough knowledge about the Chinese navy doctrines to tell China how to move. However, I think, it is a fact that the main reason why the Chinese navy structure continues to progress so strongly is the existence of an unfair siege against China for years. We can't ignore that. Just blaming China is a one-sided perspective.

If China takes its steps correctly, it could be the superpower of the future. China may be the symbol of the transition to the multipolar world. However, in this process, China is passing its biggest exam with BRI. In order to maintain this perspective, it is very important for China to develop its force projection capability, gain control over the trade routes and push back counter siege.

And if I know anything about the postmodern world order: its that China cannot follow the footsteps of the United States. They need different initiatives and perspectives from conventional ones. The expansion of the Chinese navy is very important for global goals, but the doctrinal frameworks for which it will adopt have a much more important role.

They need to break down threats without threatening other parties. Otherwise, they will rebuild traditional alliance bridges, which have been weakened since the 90s, with their own hands.

On the other side:

(...)PLAN is considered sending warship to Mediterranean to back Egypt , UAE, Russia and Libya allies. Turkey is alone.

These are a handful of trolls masturbating here, combining conflicts of interest (without knowingly between whose) with their wet dreams.

These are don't know anything about the dynamics of the region. Also I'm not sure they even know, what Hafer's CV and actually Hafter brought to Libya by who. They are too ignorant to know the position of France, even the US, while forming an alliance group in theirs delusions that includes the warlord hafter's coup forces in Libya and including Russia and the UAE.

They do not know NATO's Mediterranean organizational structure fron Naples-to-Aksaz and its rapid response capacity, nor that NATO's entry into the Blacksea is blocked by blackseafor, a Russian-Turkish initiative since 90s.

They see every situation as 1 and 0. No depth and no knowledge. From a sociological point of view, this should be seen as a trend created by the rapid transformation of China. They think they are at a point which they haven't reached yet.

 

[GumNaam]

After we've seen how US has pounded pak over the war on terror and left it in cold dust, I think we're well aware and cautious of our alliances, strategies and actions

which toilet hole have you been living in? cuz everyone else outside the hole has seen how the u.s. has been groveling and begging in front of us to save their bungholes from the taliban & a humiliating defeat. regardless, india just has nothing to offer her so called "allies" against China.

 

[Zapper]

which toilet hole have you been living in? cuz everyone else outside the hole has seen how the u.s. has been groveling and begging in front of us to save their bungholes from the taliban & a humiliating defeat. regardless, india just has nothing to offer her so called "allies" against China.

Are you dumb...I'm talking about how US ditched Pak during times of need, denying weapons systems, halting or refusing additional equipment and stuff. This is probably the main reason why India didn't go with the F-16s even though they were offering significant ToT and localized production of the latest Block. Also, MoD decided not to procure any major defence systems from the US since they're unrealible during war times, particularly if our actions are against their interests

 

[Minho]

After we've seen how US has pounded pak over the war on terror and left it in cold dust, I think we're well aware and cautious of our alliances, strategies and actions

Smart Pekistanis are thinking why China is improving relations with India and holding high-level border talks while Indo-Pak ties are at its worst and India has seized Kashmir forever. But then again, most Pakistanis can be fooled by symbollic gestures in the UNSC that even China knows won't work.

Turkey will tie US, UK & France down in the Mediterranean, North Africa and Middle East.

Pakistan will take care of India.

Malaysia will take care of Indonesia, Vietnam & Philippines.

China will take care of Japan, Australia and any residual US forces.

Do you even read what you write?

On a side note, one has to appreciate this thread. A Turk using statements of various countries' naval commanders in a conference held in India to score points against China, and of course this thread attracted the usual Chinese and Pakistani trolls. Gotta love PDF.

 

[Zapper]

Ignore the trolls...let him live in his lala land

Do you even read what you write?

On a side note, one has to appreciate this thread. A Turk using statements of various countries' naval commanders in a conference held in India to score points against China, and of course this thread attracted the usual Chinese and Pakistani trolls. Gotta love PDF