China’s Mars rover feat took NASA decades

[52051]

Btw, China is a pretty big topic in today's America, you don't need to question them on why they discuss Chinese military in a Pakistan defence forum.

Actually PDF is probably the most active English-language defense-related BBS in the world (if you know somewhere even better, do let me know), there are certainly more than my interests in Pakistan's national defense to make me come to PDF.

And back to the topic:

Unlike Soviet Union and the last cold war, China has not shown much interests in building national pride through space competitions, they do rather focused on economy development.

Thats why China's space related work are at low budge level, but thanks to our talents, our space program are pretty efficient and on-target.

But as a man who like space exploration, actually I am really disappointed, just image a great power competition with today's technology: we could have had sent rovers to Titan or robot submarine to the deep sea of Enceladus. Universe is such a exciting topic, there are so many unexplainable and grand sight in the space to the degree I somewhat regret that I was born too earily.

 

[Tauren Paladin]

China took 7 more years to reach Mars after India yet China is ahead. China is even ahead of US even though they did this 51 years after US.
In short only China is shead of all in every area. Be it collapse of bridging and rocket.

It's not about reaching Mars 7 years later. It's about "space capabilities." China caught up to India with the Mars orbiter, but in those 7 years India has made no progress with their Mars missions. Now, China is way further ahead of India with their Mars rover landing. Currently, India is nowhere close to landing a rover on Mars.

 

[Beast]

Btw, China is a pretty big topic in today's America, you don't need to question them on why they discuss Chinese military in a Pakistan defence forum.

Actually PDF is probably the most active English-language defense-related BBS in the world (if you know somewhere even better, do let me know), there are certainly more than my interests in Pakistan's national defense to make me come to PDF.

And back to the topic:

Unlike Soviet Union and the last cold war, China has not shown much interests in building national pride through space competitions, they do rather focused on economy development.

Thats why China's space related work are at low budge level, but thanks to our talents, our space program are pretty efficient and on-target.

But as a man who like space exploration, actually I am really disappointed, just image a great power competition with today's technology: we could have had sent rovers to Titan or robot submarine to the deep sea of Enceladus. Universe is such a exciting topic, there are so many unexplainable and grand sight in the space to the degree I somewhat regret that I was born too earily.

Xi seems to have approve Mars sample return. LM 9 rocket is already start assembling. A exciting times lie ahead.

 

[bshifter]

Xi seems to have approve Mars sample return. LM 9 rocket is already start assembling. A exciting times lie ahead.

Has it been officially determined that the next Mars mission is a sample return mission?

 

[Beast]

Has it been officially determined that the next Mars mission is a sample return mission?

No but the long march 9 must be up first. All we lack will be long March 9, the most crucial part for LM9 which is the engine of 500tons is already ready.

 

[Beast]

Tianwen No.1 plagiarizes American technology? Where does China's space technology come from

I think last few sentence by the author is absolutely correct. Chinese shall be proud of Tianwen-1 achievement and those telling Chinese to act humble and no need to feel proud of this mission , are just slayer trying to derail China space progress! The scientist behind all these mission need our recognition of their effort and praising of them to motivate them to do more!

 

[Daniel808]

 

[Beast]

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Zhurong despite lighter weight compare to curiosity and perseverance are about the same size. More or less show superior Chinese metallurgy.

 

[letsrock]

Thats why China's space related work are at low budge level, but thanks to our talents, our space program are pretty efficient and on-target.

Whats china budget for mars exploration? they havent disclosed it yet
I personally think there isnt any money to be made in space. But its a great advertizement for country's tech progress. its not for nothing that US completely stopped space things as soon as cold war is over. And Spacex is largely funded by tax payer money.
I think china is playing smart in this. Just doing enough to increase prestige but without getting in to a race. But again i really dont know how much money they throw.

 

[Beast]

Whats china budget for mars exploration? they havent disclosed it yet
I personally think there isnt any money to be made in space. But its a great advertizement for country's tech progress. its not for nothing that US completely stopped space things as soon as cold war is over. And Spacex is largely funded by tax payer money.
I think china is playing smart in this. Just doing enough to increase prestige but without getting in to a race. But again i really dont know how much money they throw.

Space exploration is not about prestige only but real scientific advancements. You think those space experiment onboard ISS are for show only.?The result from science helps on advancing medical, metallurgy, physics and chemistry.

That is why China is keen to have its own space station. There is no substitute for loss of gravity, vaccum space environment for some experiment.

Even the mars exploration helps to advance science like propulsion braking optimum system. The AI involved in the descender who can make its own judgement in choosing the best spot with least obstacle to land. It will help on next autonomous unmanned transport system on earth to complete the whole pilot process by itself.

 

[letsrock]

Space exploration is not about prestige only but real scientific advancements. You think those space experiment onboard ISS are for show only.?The result from science helps on advancing medical, metallurgy, physics and chemistry.

That is why China is keen to have its own space station. There is no substitute for loss of gravity, vaccine space environment for some experiment.

Even the mars exploration helps to advance science like propulsion braking optimum system. The AI involved in the descender who can make its own judgement in choosing the best spot with least obstacle to land. It will help on next autonomous unmanned transport system on earth to complete the whole pilot process by itself.

Well ofcourse some limited engagement within budget is a must. I wasnt saying space must be ignored but talking about these wild scenarios of colonizing mars or moon or first to run a base there. That will be brutually expensive with no justifiable returns.

 

[bshifter]

Whats china budget for mars exploration? they havent disclosed it yet
I personally think there isnt any money to be made in space. But its a great advertizement for country's tech progress. its not for nothing that US completely stopped space things as soon as cold war is over. And Spacex is largely funded by tax payer money.
I think china is playing smart in this. Just doing enough to increase prestige but without getting in to a race. But again i really dont know how much money they throw.

Space budget

Euroconsult’s flagship research shows government space program budgets have maintained growth trajectories

Amid a tumultuous year for the global economy, government space program budgets have maintained their growth trajectories for a fifth consecutive year, reveals Euroconsult’s latest “Government Space Programs: Benchmarks, Profiles […]

www.geospatialworld.net

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I wasnt saying space must be ignored but talking about these wild scenarios of colonizing mars or moon or first to run a base there. That will be brutually expensive with no justifiable returns.

Having a missile base on Mars is extremely valuable. It provides credible second strike capability against any target on Earth.

 

[Daniel808]

The actual size of Zhurong Rover compare to human

Credit to @lcloo

 

[Beast]

The actual size of Zhurong Rover compare to human

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Credit to @lcloo

It's about same size as curiosity rover but only 1/3 the weight of it. China Mars rover technology is not too far away from US.