China’s Mars rover feat took NASA decades

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Tianwen (Asking The Heavens) is a poem written by ancient Chinese poet Qu Yuan.

Qu Yuan - Wikipedia

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Zhurong is fire god in ancient Chinese mythology. Mars is called Fire Planet in Chinese.

Zhurong - Wikipedia

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[Daniel808]

Planetary scientist Roberto Orosei told Nature China is “doing in a single go what NASA took decades to do,”


Tell us everything

 

[dbc]

Planetary scientist Roberto Orosei told Nature China is “doing in a single go what NASA took decades to do,”


Tell us everything

yes pioneering work takes longer..followers have it easy.
this is known

 

[F-22Raptor]

yes pioneering work takes longer..followers have it easy.
this is known

An that’s what I’ve been saying this whole time. NASA leads the way, while China follows. It’s easy to follow others work.

And comparing technology that China had access to in recent years to what NASA had decades ago is absolutely stupid.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

yes pioneering work takes longer..followers have it easy.
this is known

An that’s what I’ve been saying this whole time. NASA leads the way, while China follows. It’s easy to follow others work.

And comparing technology that China had access to in recent years to what NASA had decades ago is absolutely stupid.

Not all countries can follow. Russia can't follow America and put a rover on Mars. Europe can't do it. Japan can't do it. You have to have very strong technological base to put rover on Mars.

 

[Han Patriot]

Wrong as usual, if you make a big deal about the American use of Russian RD180 then the below is actually more embarrassing for the Chinese.

Austrian Academy of Sciences contributed flight telemetry instruments and software for the rover landing. Institut de Recherche en Astrophysique et Planétologie in France contributed a Laser-Induced Breakdown Spectroscopy instrument on the Tianwen 1 rover. CNES, provided guidance to their Chinese counterparts on the spectroscopy technique, which uses a laser to zap a pinhead-size portion of a rock, and a spectrometer to analyze the light given off by plasma generated by the laser’s interaction with the rock’s surface. The technique allows an instrument to determine the chemical make-up of rocks on Mars.

Keep lying.


France's Institute for Research in Astrophysics and Planetology (IRAP) in Toulouse, in France, is collaborating on the Zhurong rover. Sylvestre Maurice of IRAP said:
For their Laser Induced Breakdown Spectroscopy (LIBS) instrument, we have delivered a calibration target that is a French duplicate of a target which is on NASA's Curiosity Mars rover. The idea is to see how the two datasets compare.[54]

Austria's Austrian Research Promotion Agency (FFG) aided in the development of a magnetometer installed on the Tianwen-1 orbiter. The Space Research Institute of the Austrian Academy of Sciences in Graz has confirmed the group's contribution to the Tianwen-1 magnetometer and helped with the calibration of the flight instrument.


Austrian Academy Website

Tianwen-1

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IWF has contributed to the magnetometer aboard the orbiter and helped with the calibration of the flight instrument.

In total, Europe as part of international collaboration aided us in developing our magnetometer and provided a sample calibration target, all of which does not effect the landing nor function of the rover, it was included as part of international collaboration, unlike indians who even need to import their solar panels, lithium batteries, controllers and titanium sponges.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

IWF has contributed to the magnetometer aboard the orbiter and helped with the calibration of the flight instrument. This had already been stated earlier, they provided a sample to calibrate the instruments and a magnetometer for us to test and verify.

CNES shared their experience with us but since none has landed on Mars, they don't know if it will work. All instrument onboard were made in China except the magnetometer which they contributed for testing.

Zhurong is world's first rover equipped with magnetometer. The amount of tech that went into building Zhurong is insane. Early Mars rovers like Pathfinder and Spirit are crude compared to Zhurong.

 

[Beast]

Wrong as usual, if you make a big deal about the American use of Russian RD180 then the below is actually more embarrassing for the Chinese.

Austrian Academy of Sciences contributed flight telemetry instruments and software for the rover landing. Institut de Recherche en Astrophysique et Planétologie in France contributed a Laser-Induced Breakdown Spectroscopy instrument on the Tianwen 1 rover. CNES, provided guidance to their Chinese counterparts on the spectroscopy technique, which uses a laser to zap a pinhead-size portion of a rock, and a spectrometer to analyze the light given off by plasma generated by the laser’s interaction with the rock’s surface. The technique allows an instrument to determine the chemical make-up of rocks on Mars.

see how the american try to mask their inferiority. This is just one of the collaboration to legalized out tianwen 1 as international mission. If we don't take the austria equipement onboard. Will it failed the mission? Of cos not, it can be easily replace by another local set.

But can RD-180 engine rocket be easily replaced by another? Even until now the supposed replacement rocket for RD-180 are still going testing.. without RD-180 engines, US perseverance will be failed for sure.

I know it's embarrassing for a so called space power to admit they even need to import rocket engine to keep their exploration alive.

Luckily CNSA is not as spineless as NASA. We have our YF-100 engine to do whatever we want. The more powerful YF-120 engine are coming.

 

[Han Patriot]

Zhurong is world's first rover equipped with magnetometer. The amount of tech that went into building Zhurong is insane. Early Mars rovers like Pathfinder and Spirit are crude compared to Zhurong.

Well in total they gave some support and we built the magnetometer as a collaboration, and we used a target from France to verify our spectroscopy instruments. And of course the out of range tracking which saved us a few trip of yuan Wang ships.

 

[Daniel808]

yes pioneering work takes longer..followers have it easy.
this is known

Following?

NASA never share their data from Mars mission to China.
That's Chinese Scientist Ability to pioneering their own way to Mars. And they doing that in single go, meanwhile NASA need decades to do the same

 

[F-22Raptor]

Following?

NASA never share their data from Mars mission to China.
That's Chinese Scientist Ability to pioneering their own way to Mars. And they doing that in single go, meanwhile NASA need decades to do the same

Yes, you are followers. You live in the shadow of NASA. Landing on Mars is routine for NASA.

NASA has been to every planet in the Solar System while China just reached its 1st.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Americans like @dbc and @F-22Raptor are too little hearted people. That's why America i

Yes, you are followers. You live in the shadow of NASA. Landing on Mars is routine for NASA.

NASA has been to every planet in the Solar System while China just reached its 1st.

Russia landed on another planet first in 1967 before Americans did so.

Venera 13: First Color Pictures From Venus

Reference Article

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[dbc]

NASA never share their data from Mars mission to China.

Of course NASA did, how do you think the Chinese found out about Martian atmosphere, atmospheric composition, topology and tons of information NASA shared online.

Do you really think the Chinese could have landed the rover on Mars without this data?

The Chinese also benefited from learning from the success and failures of other missions - again all open source information. Talk to us when you are the first on a unexplored planet.

 

[Beast]

Yes, you are followers. You live in the shadow of NASA. Landing on Mars is routine for NASA.

NASA has been to every planet in the Solar System while China just reached its 1st.

We are not follower like NASA who uses Russian rocket engine for Mars mission. China produced YF-100 domestic engine for our mars mission. Can't believe NASA has degraded to such stage!

Of course NASA did, how do you think the Chinese found out about Martian atmosphere, atmospheric composition, topology and tons of information NASA shared online.

Do you really think the Chinese could have landed the rover on Mars without this data?

The Chinese also benefited from learning from the success and failures of other missions - again all open source information. Talk to us when you are the first on a unexplored planet.

Lol.. it is our good friend ESA and Russian space agency who share with Chinese such information plus a lot of other open sources info that can be found online.

NASA did zero for China Mars mission except for using lowlife accusation of CNSA for handling Long March 5B debris.
Why NASA didn't reserve such accusation for Falcon 9 debris landed on US and Indonesia?

 

[Beast]

of course NASA has so many options..we were making rockets when your great gran daddy was plodding knee deep in rice farms and marveling at light bulbs .

Lol.. stop lying to yourself. You can't. If can , the US engine would have been used. Eat the humble pie and admit no Russian RD-180 engines. NASA would need to delay their Mars mission until next window in 2022.

Can SpaceX and Blue Origin best a decades-old Russian rocket engine design? – MIT Technology Review

China are making powerful rocket engines and US are still battling black live matters or busy stoping UN resolution against Israel genocide.