China’s Mars rover feat took NASA decades

[Great Janjua]

I don't care who was first or last. Space exploration should be encouraged be it done by your enemies

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Lmao Mao tried to destroy Chinese culture and killed millions of Chinese people , if Bangladesh had a Mao it would still be a shithole either ways and heck no you can't say Bangladesh would be Singapore since Singapore only got rich via due to their location which was a cargo ship traffic route and their leadership which was fit to make Singapore not a shithole.

Bangladesh needs a leader democratic or not to be nationalistic and only serve for Bangladesh's only interests and make proper planned infrastructure and industrialize and get better health care and education and that's all.

You can't take the development strategy of China or Singapore and apply it for Bangladesh

Indians say the exact same thing. All they need is a "good" leader. Well they supposedly pick the leaders so does that mean they don't want good leaders?

China and Singapore were both far poorer than Bangladesh starting out. On October 1 1949 Mao came to power. On this day China had just ended about 120 years of constant warfare. China's GDP per capita was lower than Congo, produced less than 1000 tons of steel per year and the single city of Shanghai consumed 40% of China's electricity. Yet look where China is today. Hell, look at where China was in 1976 when Mao died. India STILL has not caught up to 1976 China in some ways.

Singapore was even worse off since they had 0 resources, were small and were made up of the descendants of Chinese coolies enslaved by the British. They had no education, most didn't speak either Mandarin, Cantonese or English, and they suffered from 100+ years of slavery and systematic racism. To top it off they only got independence a few years before Bangladesh. Yet look where Singapore is today.

 

[Han Patriot]

Indians say the exact same thing. All they need is a "good" leader. Well they supposedly pick the leaders so does that mean they don't want good leaders?

China and Singapore were both far poorer than Bangladesh starting out. On October 1 1949 Mao came to power. On this day China had just ended about 120 years of constant warfare. China's GDP per capita was lower than Congo, produced less than 1000 tons of steel per year and the single city of Shanghai consumed 40% of China's electricity. Yet look where China is today. Hell, look at where China was in 1976 when Mao died. India STILL has not caught up to 1976 China in some ways.

Singapore was even worse off since they had 0 resources, were small and were made up of the descendants of Chinese coolies enslaved by the British. They had no education, most didn't speak either Mandarin, Cantonese or English, and they suffered from 100+ years of slavery and systematic racism. To top it off they only got independence a few years before Bangladesh. Yet look where Singapore is today.

It's a cultural thing mate..... You give peace to Chinks, they build countries they don't talk.

 

[mike2000 is back]

China and Russia are natural allies. Sort of like US and Canada.

ahahah Superboy alias Austin powers, seems your mood changes all the time, yesterday a Russian cheerleader now you are coming back to your roots(which should have been the case from the beginning. lol ). lol I like your trolling though, good entertainment.

 

[Leishangthem]

After the crappy Russian rocket carrying China's first Mars probe blew up, China speeded up Mars mission with an orbiter, lander, rover 3 in 1 mission. Instead of sending orbiter then lander then rover like China's moon mission, it was done in 1 go. All thanks to the stupid Russians wasting Chinese people's time.

@vostok

It's not russia's fault china couldn't have built it back then by themselves.

 

[SpaceMan18]

Indians say the exact same thing. All they need is a "good" leader. Well they supposedly pick the leaders so does that mean they don't want good leaders?

China and Singapore were both far poorer than Bangladesh starting out. On October 1 1949 Mao came to power. On this day China had just ended about 120 years of constant warfare. China's GDP per capita was lower than Congo, produced less than 1000 tons of steel per year and the single city of Shanghai consumed 40% of China's electricity. Yet look where China is today. Hell, look at where China was in 1976 when Mao died. India STILL has not caught up to 1976 China in some ways.

Singapore was even worse off since they had 0 resources, were small and were made up of the descendants of Chinese coolies enslaved by the British. They had no education, most didn't speak either Mandarin, Cantonese or English, and they suffered from 100+ years of slavery and systematic racism. To top it off they only got independence a few years before Bangladesh. Yet look where Singapore is today.

Bangladesh should follow the South Korean model of development or adjust it for it's own development if it really wants to become a developed nation.

South Korea started poorer than East Pakistan aka Bangladesh I think but now look at them , but again Bangladeshis not only need a good leader but people in general need to be nationalistic.

Taiwan, Singapore and South Korea etc started off very poor in the beginning but became more developed due to it's people/culture

Even Vietnam is doing better than Bangladesh , culture plays a great role in development

 

[mike2000 is back]

LOL! How are we slow compared to China?
Far earlier? We only started launching satellites 12 years before China.

Since then:
We have sent probes to EVERY planet (some are still working like the Jupiter one).
A probe orbiting around the Sun.
A probe is on its way back from collecting samples from an asteroid.
Probes outside the solar system.
We have had 12 men walk on the moon, with some of them driving on it. They brought back 383 Kilograms of moon samples.
We sent a 75+ ton space station into orbit with a single launch.
We helped build a second Space Station.
We have had people continuously in orbit in the ISS since November of 2000...that's over 20 years.
We have had 5 spaceship designs (including an 8 person capacity space plane) send over 500 people into orbit.
We have reusable rockets.
We have the most powerful active rocket in the world.
We have two day/night nuclear powered rovers driving on Mars right now AND a helicopter.

Mars isn't the only place we have concentrated resources.

Chill dude. Everybody knows the US is the world's sole superpower even today, and has been a developed industrialised advanced country for over a century now. It competed with the Soviet Union in the space race and came out on top. Even the feat you guys accomplished those years is still a major feat even today, was also due to the huge amounts you guys spent in space and what that entailed.
The US is still a world leader in space and in almost every other major/critical industry one can think of. It's common knowledge. So you don't need to naming all US accomplishments on here. The US has been an established industrial developed world superpower for a while now, so don't need to prove much anymore.
By contrast China is just now rising coming from a very poor troubled background/history this past century. They are still a rising power and a developing country as such it's normal that they will feel more pride in every achievement they accomplish than an established developed power like the US who has been in this game for almost century now. So it's expected from the Chinese to behave this way and to be more proud of this, we shouldn't take that from that. What they are achieving is commendable and to be lauded as such. So you don't have to bump in all the time and feel the need to challenge them or try to belittle their achievement by comparing it to that of the US all the time(since you know they will fall short from that) just to make you feel better. It serves no purpose. So it's normal they should feel proud of making such achievements judging from how far they have come and the fact that it's something new to them compared to the U.S
It's like for example: Do you think it will seem more impressive to others or people will talk more about China launching a communication satellite to space today than say Iran managing to launch even a micro satellite today? Which one do you think their public will feel more prideful/talk about more? China or Iran?
I'm just taking an example to put things in perspective. Same way if India manages to successfully launch a mon rover to Mars say in 20 years from now, do you think they won't feel more prideful/celebrate more than China doing even more than that on Mars during period? Of course they will be more happy/celebrate more, since it will be something new for them, while the Chinese would by then be more used to that or they will celebrate it more casually having done that a few times before. That's human nature. So give the Chinese their credit and leave it at that. No point in always comparing with them, ignore some Nationalistic members here who might get a little too proud and get overboard, but then again it's normal they have achieved something significant and they are still a developing country. So it's still quite impressive. Can overlook the over reaction for that.

 

[SpaceMan18]

Chill dude. Everybody knows the US is the world's sole superpower even today, and has been a developed industrialised advanced country for over a century now. It competed with the Soviet Union in the space race and came out on top. Even the feat you guys accomplished those years is still a major feat even today, was also due to the huge amounts you guys spent in space and what that entailed.
The US is still a world leader in space and in almost every other major/critical industry one can think of. It's common knowledge. So you don't need to naming all US accomplishments on here. The US has been an established industrial developed world superpower for a while now, so don't need to prove much anymore.
By contrast China is just now rising coming from a very poor troubled background/history this past century. They are still a rising power and a developing country as such it's normal that they will feel more pride in every achievement they accomplish than an established developed power like the US who has been in this game for almost century now. So it's expected from the Chinese to behave this way and to be more proud of this, we shouldn't take that from that. What they are achieving is commendable and to be lauded as such. So you don't have to bump in all the time and feel the need to challenge them or try to belittle their achievement by comparing it to that of the US all the time(since you know they will fall short from that) just to make you feel better. It serves no purpose. So it's normal they should feel proud of making such achievements judging from how far they have come and the fact that it's something new to them compared to the U.S
It's like for example: Do you think it will seem more impressive to others or people will talk more about China launching a communication satellite to space today than say Iran managing to launch even a micro satellite today? Which one do you think their public will feel more prideful/talk about more? China or Iran?
I'm just taking an example to put things in perspective. Same way if India manages to successfully launch a mon rover to Mars say in 20 years from now, do you think they won't feel more prideful/celebrate more than China doing even more than that on Mars during period? Of course they will be more happy/celebrate more, since it will be something new for them, while the Chinese would by then be more used to that or they will celebrate it more casually having done that a few times before. That's human nature. So give the Chinese their credit and leave it at that. No point in always comparing with them, ignore some Nationalistic members here who might get a little too proud and get overboard, but then again it's normal they have achieved something significant and they are still a developing country. So it's still quite impressive. Can overlook the over reaction for that.

If China wasn't run by the CCP and was actually was able to given the freedom to invent and innovate again it probably would compete with the U.S much better and even get ahead if they wanted to.

Sadly China doesn't bring out original things anymore

 

[fallstuff]

Mao only destroyed feudalism, which enhanced Chinese culture.

Bangladesh is still essentially a feudal state. You know it, I know it, let's not fool ourselves. All Bangladeshis understand this simple reality.

If Bangladesh had a Mao, it would be Singapore from it's strategic location. But alas Bangladesh didn't and thus is Bangladesh.

To Mao the revolution had to be a permanent process, constantly kept alive through unending class struggle. Hidden enemies in the party and intellectual circles had to be identified and removed. Conceived of as a "revolution to touch people’s souls," the aim of the Cultural Revolution was to attack the Four Olds-- old ideas, old culture, old customs, and old habits--in order to bring the areas of education, art and literature in line with Communist ideology. Anything that was suspected of being feudal or bourgeois was to be destroyed.

One child policy destroyed what Mao didn't.

An entire generation grew up in China not knowing what is like to have a brother, sister, aunt, uncle, and cousins. These interaction help grow social skills needed in life.

Question is who decides what is feudal ? Reality is Mao failed terribly, like any other run of the mill strongman he refused to accept his own fault and blamed so called intellectuals ( folks who criticized Mao ) or any other informal power center within the CCP.

We had a wanna be Mao, he got taken care of by the people before he could do monstrous damages like what Mao did.

Unlike China we have at least a 2000 year old cultural tradition, it is not worth giving up for anything !

 

[Han Patriot]

If China wasn't run by the CCP and was actually was able to given the freedom to invent and innovate again it probably would compete with the U.S much better and even get ahead if they wanted to.

Sadly China doesn't bring out original things anymore

I beg to differ, does quantum tech ring a bell? 5G tech? The world most powerful magnet? Light source?

 

[KAL-EL]

ahahah Superboy alias Austin powers, seems your mood changes all the time, yesterday a Russian cheerleader now you are coming back to your roots(which should have been the case from the beginning. lol ). lol I like your trolling though, good entertainment.

Austin Powers is a fascinating fellow isn’t he?

 

[SpaceMan18]

I beg to differ, does quantum tech ring a bell? 5G tech? The world most powerful magnet? Light source?

5G is just innovation nothing completely new since it's a continuation of something that already exist

To Mao the revolution had to be a permanent process, constantly kept alive through unending class struggle. Hidden enemies in the party and intellectual circles had to be identified and removed. Conceived of as a "revolution to touch people’s souls," the aim of the Cultural Revolution was to attack the Four Olds-- old ideas, old culture, old customs, and old habits--in order to bring the areas of education, art and literature in line with Communist ideology. Anything that was suspected of being feudal or bourgeois was to be destroyed.

One child policy destroyed what Mao didn't.

An entire generation grew up in China not knowing what is like to have a brother, sister, aunt, uncle, and cousins. These interaction help grow social skills needed in life.

Question is who decides what is feudal ? Reality is Mao failed terribly, like any other run of the mill strongman he refused to accept his own fault and blamed so called intellectuals ( folks who criticized Mao ) or any other informal power center within the CCP.

We had a wanna be Mao, he got taken care of by the people before he could do monstrous damages like what Mao did.

Unlike China we have at least a 2000 year old cultural tradition, it is not worth giving up for anything !

Fam our culture is suppose to be innovative and progressive but just look at us now , we aren't even developed let alone in the forefront of science or innovation

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

but then again it's normal they have achieved something significant and they are still a developing country

Are you serious? China has far superior social services than the US. China is most tech advanced in certain aspects. In China you can pay everything on your smartphone. You can't do that in the US. Also, US healthcare sucks crap compared to healthcare in China. Why don't you take a trip to China and see for yourself instead of drinking the government cool aid China is 3rd world country

 

[Han Patriot]

5G is just innovation nothing completely new since it's a continuation of something that already exist


Fam our culture is suppose to be innovative and progressive but just look at us now , we aren't even developed let alone in the forefront of science or innovation

Hey Bangladeshis are bragging like yindoos now? Dude you are only talkative not innovative nor creative... What did your 'civilization' even invent? You are neither Hindu nor Arab. At least the Arabs could brag and the Hindus could too. Anyway don't talk so much, clean up your own shit and develop. That's the key, feed your people.

5G did not exist before Huawei set up the standards and specs okay mate and now we have 6G standdars on going, quantum tech exists before this? Light source and magnetic source all needed the invention of new technologies, this is not chapati machine innuvasioon ok

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

so annoying;It's not russia's fault china couldn't have built it back then by themselves.

China didn't have the rocket back in 2011 to get to Mars. To go to Mars you need a heavy lift rocket. Long March 3 is not a heavy lift rocket.