1st, of all the licenced copy doesn't mean it is not a copy, and fabrication processes in China and Russia where NOT the same resulting in problems with the quality of the J-11.
I mentioned that the J-11B by some is regarded as a corrected version, and an unlicenced at that. What did you not get?
second your whole F-16 argument is so wrong, I won't even go there.
and third .. your baillout point.. null and void and irrelevant as this is not the case. China was invited to partake in the funding.. hasn't done so yet and may not do it. The very deal is not finalized yet and you think China is already involved ? wow . and Greeks are not capable of things then.. . yes you are right clearly ...
OK, let me break it down for you one by one
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There's no issue with J-11A here, copy or not I don't care, and you don't want to know. It's J-11B on the line of analysis here.
Apart from sharing a common airframe, J-11B and Su27 are two different breeds of animals for having drastically different "interiors"( avionics, elecs., materials, etc).
Now if you can't make a concret case , as you haven't yet, that 20-year-old Su 27 has "some areas" in its general airframe that are too advanced for the Chinese to "copy" 20 years later, making it overall a more capable plane than J-11B depite of its clearly inferior "interiors", then your whole logic falls apart. Thus you'll be forced to admit that by and large up-to-date J-11B is superior to Su-27, probably much superior still.
Granted that F-16E/F vs. F-16A/B was my lazy analogy, yet it's not far-fetched. Now take this -
- if amalakas01 is superior to Camel01, and
-if amalakas02 is much more superior to amalakas01, and
-if Camel 02 is slightly , if any, superior to Camel 01,
So, do you think amalakas02 is inferior to Camel02?
see, this is the beauty of inference, which doesn't require knowing exact details of things in order to get them right....let me know when you're ready so that I can grab my popcorn... but by all means take your time
As for the Euro deal, don't argue with me on finance, ever, as it's my cup of tea, oke?
There's a thing called "funding", which the EU just can't solve by plugging in the printing press. China is the ONLY one on this planet to be able to fund the significant part of the deal so that it could go thru at the end of the day. Otherwise there is no realistic point to discuss the rescue deal in the first place if knowing that China won't be part of it beforehand, is it? Whatever spins the media may tell you to make you believe, the ultimate fate of Euro is in the hands of China now. Say Good Morning to your Chinese overlord.