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China's CX-1 Missile Now Exportable

Copying is fine. Makes sense. Everyone did that...

Not coming up with new gadgets is BAD. WORSE!
As much as i would like to agree there are many threads which show China is moving ahead of the competition.
And coming up with new gadgets takes time and it will happen when the R n D departments mature. The increase in R n D funding will take time to give results and reverse engineering has helped them catch up to a near level playing field.
 
Copying is fine. Makes sense. Everyone did that...

Not coming up with new gadgets is BAD. WORSE!

i dont understand why CHINA need exact copy of Bramhos, they look quite alike and specification is also in the same area. China should have invested in much better missile and provide some thing unique, but to think countries who want to buy Bramhos, will change mind and go for CX-1 is rather funny. Bramhos avionic keep on changing with requirement and is among best in world.
 
As much as i would like to agree there are many threads which show China is moving ahead of the competition.
And coming up with new gadgets takes time and it will happen when the R n D departments mature. The increase in R n D funding will take time to give results and reverse engineering has helped them catch up to a near level playing field.

For example...? What have they done that's better than the west and perhaps significant?
 
For example...? What have they done that's better than the west and perhaps significant?
There is a post you should check out in on pdf
China Just Tested A Mach 10 Missile That Could Dodge US Defenses
 
China's CX-1 Missile Now Exportable

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CX-1 supersonic anti-ship cruise missile at the Zhuhai Airshow in China. (Wendell Minnick / Staff)

TAIPEI — China’s new CX-1 supersonic anti-ship cruise missile is ready for export to America’s friends and foes alike, with potential markets including Iran, Pakistan and African and South American countries.

On display at the recent Airshow China in Zhuhai, the missile resembles India’s BrahMos cruise missile with a large intake in the nose, referred to as the “axial symmetrical inlet” in the brochure. However, that appears to be the only similarity, according to Chinese-language media outlets, which mention differences in wing, guidance vanes and jet vanes of the two missiles.

Russia’s NPO Mashinostroyenia (NPOM) and India’s Defence Research and Development Organisation jointly developed the BrahMos, basing it on the NPOM’s Yakhont (P-800 Oniks) missile.

Vasiliy Kashin, a researcher at Moscow’s Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, disputed Chinese media reports that denied a connection. He said the CX-1 is likely based in part on the BrahMos surface-to-surface missile, “but Russia did not sell this to China or offer enough data to China to build one.” However, Russia has sold the missile to other states in the region, including Indonesia and Vietnam, “so it is conceivable one or more of those states could have provided some details to China,” he said.

Andrew Erickson, a China military specialist at the US Naval War College and coauthor of the book “A Low-Visibility Force Multiplier: Assessing China’s Cruise Missile Ambitions,” said that while the CX-1’s “precise provenance remains uncertain, the overall capabilities of China’s cruise missile industry are clearly significant.”

China continues to pursue foreign technological sources actively, “but is able to combine multiple technologies and vectors of inspiration with genuine indigenous capabilities to produce major new systems of its own,” he said.

Kashin said the CX-1 is a product of the Chinese Academy of Launch Technology (CALT), or the 1st Academy under the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp. Most of China’s cruise missiles, including the most advanced ones, are developed by China Aerospace Science and Industry Corp.’s 3rd Academy.

Kashin said though it is unusual for CALT to be “in this game, they do have very strong aerodynamics experts and other capabilities that they can parlay into competing in the ballistic missile and cruise missile sectors.”

The CX-1 display at Zhuhai indicates the missile comes in two variants; the CX-1A ship-borne system and CX-1B road-mobile land-based system. With a range of 40 to 280 kilometers, the missile can carry a 260-kilogram warhead. These numbers are below Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) restrictions that ban missiles carrying payloads greater than 500 kilograms at ranges exceeding 300 kilometers.

However, Kashin suggested these numbers could be designed to mislead and that the actual capabilities of the missile might be greater than MTCR restrictions.

At speeds of Mach 3, the missile can strike a target within a circular error probability of 20 meters, according to the display. Warheads include a unitary semi-armor-piercing warhead for ships and a unitary fragmentation-blast warhead and unitary penetration warhead for land attack.

Each road-mobile launcher carries two missiles. When attacking a slow target, such as a ship, the missile can make a terminal horizontal attack by combining high and low cruise and employ the compound guidance of a strap-down inertial measurement unit and active radar seeker.

A land-based road-mobile unit would consist of one command vehicle, one integrated support vehicle, three launching vehicles, three transporter-loader vehicle and 12 canisters for two-wave attacks.

Airshow China, known officially as the 10th China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition, was held Nov. 11-16 in Zhuhai.
Why not any middle eastern country invest in China's R&D?
 
The JF-17 armed with the 2 CX-1 each, would make them a hot commodity to export to Argentina (especially if they get that stealthier shape upgrade to reduce early detection), considering their Falklands/Malvinas issue and the Type 45 Destroyers

Considering the Type 45 only has 48 VLS missiles, and only one is deployed around those islands, and 2 missiles are usually launched against each threat, overwhelm the type 45 with 2 dozen cheap missiles launched from land in a first wave, and then maybe 4-6 CX-1 from only 3-4 JF-17 would make sure a knockout is achieved
 
by physics do you mean weight; the JF-17 could be configured to carry one CX-1 under belly (@3800kg it should be within the new limit for what the block 2 JF-17 can carry)
Good job champ!!! Future of PAF is secured! (just a joke) Welcome to PDF!
 
Can someone tell how is CX-1 different from CM-400AKG?
If we have CM-400AKG and fire it from our thunders do we need CX-1 as well?
 
This is precisely why China will never ever become a real super power and has to rely on the pumpin queen...

Copying things is okay. Copying everything is not...
Like USA and Soviets whole cold war was all relying on German rocket scientists and copying them ? China does not just copy they improve it and deliver in low cost.

Talking about copying I believe FGFA is lot of try to immitate F22. Does that mean it is not good ?

I am not pointing at u just giving a general opinion :)
 
The JF-17 armed with the 2 CX-1 each, would make them a hot commodity to export to Argentina (especially if they get that stealthier shape upgrade to reduce early detection), considering their Falklands/Malvinas issue and the Type 45 Destroyers

Considering the Type 45 only has 48 VLS missiles, and only one is deployed around those islands, and 2 missiles are usually launched against each threat, overwhelm the type 45 with 2 dozen cheap missiles launched from land in a first wave, and then maybe 4-6 CX-1 from only 3-4 JF-17 would make sure a knockout is achieved

You talking about Aster and Type 45 bro, who designed to handle Saturation attack, Type 45 is one of the most advanced AAW destroyer in the world.
 
Good job champ!!! Future of PAF is secured! (just a joke) Welcome to PDF!

Sarcaism noted :) Thanks for the hospitality

You talking about Aster and Type 45 bro, who designed to handle Saturation attack, Type 45 is one of the most advanced AAW destroyer in the world.

but it has 48 vls tubes, if all those tubes had aster 15 and aster 30 and were expended shooting down two dozen c-802 missiles in a first wave, then it wont have any more missiles, and the 4-6 CX-1 Missiles could get through and turn that destroyer into the royal navy's general belgrano (the motive from an Argentinian point of view, should hostilities break out)

double or triple the numbers of missiles if its a floatilla of two type 45 destroyers and multiple type 23 frigates to ensure those ships are sunk (the c-802 might actually have some get through and the cx-1 might not be needed, but all good militaries plan for over kill if they have the resources

also if the chinese/pakistanis are willing to export the jf-17 to argentina, the chinese will more than likely be required by the Argentinians to sell advanced missiles of all kinds early on, so an arms embargo doesn't cut their supplies when they actually need the missiles

even china was pressured to cut off missile sales to iran, so even the chinese could cut off exports to a another nation if major powers put pressure on them.

doesn't matter how "advanced" a destroyer is, without armament it is just a target

britian can currently count on the fact that argentina is basically bankrupt and not run by another military dictatorship with argressive intent
 

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