Numerical Strength still has more importance here... as compared with Navy... I never said training discipline are nothing.
Which China already has on top of the training.
Technologically Indian Navy is right there and at places better than PLAN... hence the experience matters in the end game.... while at Pacific the Japs and the Americans have even better experience and tactics.
Same applies to China. Problem is with India is their lack of infrastructure and slow production rate. It will have adverse effect if at war with a foe larger and technologically more advanced than you. Having experience (I mean any experience) is a good thing, but it is not everything.
That was due to lack of equipment and exposure... Chinese under CCP has never been defensive... in the sense you are talking.
We throughout history have always been passive if not defensive. Even during the Ming dynasties, we were more concerned about trade and exploration than conquer and destroy. CCP are doing a fine job when compared to the West, Nehru of India and the Japanese.
Sure PLAN must know that... but it has been only recently that PLAN ships were seen as far as Gulf of Aden... I don't know how far they have been in Pacific yet.. but that would've made a lot of news.
PLAN have always exercised around the South China Sea, which is already beyond the "coast" that you claimed. PLAN have also ventured beyond that with its nuclear submarines. Just do a keyword search on Google: "Chinese Submarine" and "Los Angeles Coast".
I am talking of the Xias and the Hans... I don't think the thread requires an elaboration on this.
Xias and Hans are decades old now and were used to aid training and further our understanding of nuclear submarines. You should be looking at more modern nuclear submarines in our inventory such as the Jin Type 094 that is in service.
If you didn't understand the term strategic patrols are long range sea patrols close to enemy territory in neutral waters... as a show of strength... or to gather information... and making the crew familiar with the enemy.
China is defensive in nature. We all have disputes with several neighbours, but it does not make neighbours our enemies. You don't want to escalate war or antagonize unnecessarily during peace time by patrolling with warships near someone's coast. The term "strategic patrol" involves both short and long range patrols. The later is something only the Americans would do, hence they are labeled as the "world police".
True USN have best of technologies but that doesn't mean other can't have them.
As I said even 50 year old experiences of WWII are as valuable today for surface combatants.
I didn't say others can't have them. More specifically others don't have them and 'realistically speaking', it will take quite some time to even match them at their current level. When it comes to experience, any thing goes. Be it fifty or a thousand years old. What is more important is the ability to improve and adapt to ones situation, which China is doing very well.
While in recce. mission the aircraft keeps on Passive mode and collects as much data as possible using its electronic sensors.
Its makes the vulnerable against the enemy but thats at the cost of being stealth for longer period of time without giving away any data of yours.
Neither side was trying to be stealthy. You knew we were there and so did we. I don't buy sensationalism from medias.
On its own scale IN has as much experience... as the scale rises so would the experience... as of now the scale of IN being higher than that of PLAN.... 10 years later If the IN stagnates and PLAN starts operating CBG.. its scale would also rise above IN.
A very questionable yet debatable statement. You have more AC experience and we have more Nuclear Sub experience, but we are out producing India and are having more crews and technical staffs working and training in their respected fields on any given day. Unless India can match China in terms of numbers and have more men in the sea, at the docks or in the labs then your scale of experience is questionable. Similar applies if we compare our experiences in land, air and space. We have more funds, exposure and overall battle experience. Hence we are amongst the five victors of WWII holding permanent UN seats and veto rights.
We cannot call the IN a true blue water navy however It has used boat diplomacy many times and quiet successfully... over and over again.. something which china has started doing in south China sea.
Only in your region and against lesser navies. It is not a blue navy by a long shot.
I never made similar comparisons... there.. I know PLA is better land force, Its rocket and artillery force along with air-deference is much ahead of Indian ones.. however when we come to Air-force the PLAAF has strength on its side while IAF has better equipment... and experience... In Nuclear technology there are fields where India is ahead of China... space China is ahead.. etc..etc.. and both are trying to get ahead in those department in which they have fallen back...as compared to others.
Saying China is behind India in the airforce department and lacking experience are debatable. We have been operating planes since the world war and it never stopped there. We are also working on our own Fifth gen, which India cannot do alone.
Having a healthy competition is fine, but we shouldn't view each other as enemies. War between India and China will not bring desired results for our people. This and the coming century is Asia's and no one will pity us if we let this golden opportunity go by stabbing each other in the back whenever possible.
... The PLAN outmatches IN any day ship by ship ... Even assuming that 50 % of the total mentioned ships are true warship , stll the IN stands no chance ...
